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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Natus Vincere vs Legacy - Map 2 Winner

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Legacyof Natus Vincere, Legacy
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$251,193

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $251,193 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 212 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x21ec…5348backed Natus Vincere59c17,354$10,308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,308.2172453.7%389 W · 335 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Natus Vincere24c13,446$3,257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,256.823,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3993…cdedbacked Legacy40c10,869$4,339 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,529.883652.5%439 W · 397 L+10.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7972…594fbacked Legacy63c10,490$6,657 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,832.598951.7%46 W · 43 L-5.2wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-9.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf988…d63bbacked Natus Vincere60c8,910$5,346 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,34635850.8%182 W · 176 L+11.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x506b…3f70backed Legacy49c7,834$3,835 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,998.96858.8%40 W · 28 L+6.2wins+0.09per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Legacy40c6,000$2,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,599.9935254%190 W · 162 L+13.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed Natus Vincere59c5,000$2,950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,95046949.7%233 W · 236 L-14.1wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-8.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa69d…509bbacked Natus Vincere50c5,000$2,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,50019757.4%113 W · 84 L+4.5wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ab4…96a5backed Legacy40c5,000$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,0008050%40 W · 40 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3c59…3887backed Legacy41c4,872$2,002 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,869.9821941.1%90 W · 129 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9553…cfc7backed Legacy45c3,933$1,771 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,162.118458.3%49 W · 35 L-2.4wins-0.03per pick61cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Legacy52c3,445$1,801 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,643.741,06049%519 W · 541 L+37.6wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed Legacy53c3,370$1,791 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,5791,03361.6%636 W · 397 L+87.2wins+0.08per pick53cpaid+11.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed Legacy55c3,342$1,837 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,505.1982143%353 W · 468 L+21.6wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5e38…de0fbacked Legacy59c3,179$1,890 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,288.8515760.5%95 W · 62 L+15.8wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+10.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Natus Vincere48c2,999$1,426 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,426.066,50142.9%2,791 W · 3,710 L-79.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Legacy54c2,988$1,620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,367.791,61945.5%737 W · 882 L+31.3wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-13.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked Natus Vincere69c2,700$1,859 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,85925655.5%142 W · 114 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick55cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x11e5…337ebacked Natus Vincere44c2,500$1,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,10022550.7%114 W · 111 L+0.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0caf…91adbacked Natus Vincere67c2,251$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50012465.3%81 W · 43 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick66cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3542…c3c8backed Legacy40c2,222$889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,333.1916653%88 W · 78 L+6.1wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+5.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0d9e…456bbacked Legacy40c2,000$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,2005655.4%31 W · 25 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+57.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x881b…9893backed Natus Vincere59c1,706$999 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.4912941.1%53 W · 76 L+0.1wins0.00per pick41cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc6ae…afe9backed Legacy32c1,565$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,065.4225640.2%103 W · 153 L+5.5wins+0.02per pick38cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x12d9…01bbbacked Legacy37c1,483$555 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$928.261228.9%177 W · 435 L-9.2wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-13.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xdc5a…bf71backed Natus Vincere49c1,389$683 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$683.0680744.6%360 W · 447 L-5.2wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Legacy52c1,388$721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$666.8289546.8%419 W · 476 L+9.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb4…48bebacked Natus Vincere60c1,231$739 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$738.735341.5%22 W · 31 L-5.4wins-0.10per pick52cpaid-23.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x4042…0bdabacked Legacy41c1,220$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$719.5118250%91 W · 91 L+7.4wins+0.04per pick46cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9e15…7531backed Legacy40c1,200$480 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72011349.6%56 W · 57 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0eec…89babacked Natus Vincere58c1,176$688 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$687.643554.3%19 W · 16 L+1.2wins+0.03per pick51cpaid-4.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdff0…f573backed Legacy42c1,114$466 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$648.1834146.6%159 W · 182 L-6.8wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3704…0e84backed Natus Vincere60c1,053$632 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$631.9121043.8%92 W · 118 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-14.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xff73…35ccbacked Natus Vincere56c1,049$590 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5902347.8%11 W · 12 L-0.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-9.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9ba4…f91dbacked Natus Vincere52c954.61$492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4922326.1%6 W · 17 L-0.1wins0.00per pick27cpaid-18.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x10b0…8525backed Legacy46c943.7$430 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$514.0960848%292 W · 316 L+7.0wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb1a3…3823backed Legacy42c916.34$384 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$532.45955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+17.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8f93…bffabacked Natus Vincere62c886.9$552 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$552.0278963.8%503 W · 286 L-2.5wins0.00per pick64cpaid-3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4013…406bbacked Natus Vincere60c860$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$513.2815063.3%95 W · 55 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick61cpaid+0.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdd5f…9d3cbacked Legacy57c845.79$484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$361.96540%2 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.15per pick55cpaid-33%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe59c…4da7backed Natus Vincere60c833.33$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50015264.5%98 W · 54 L+6.0wins+0.04per pick61cpaid+9.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f40…e1f2backed Natus Vincere61c824.59$503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5034351.2%22 W · 21 L+2.8wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+18.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x4687…8d42backed Legacy49c817.73$403 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$414.3552947.1%249 W · 280 L-14.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x54b5…4b31backed Natus Vincere37c770$287 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$287.4844848.4%217 W · 231 L-15.1wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-14.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7a73…a9c8backed Natus Vincere60c718.33$431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43169635.3%246 W · 450 L-49.3wins-0.07per pick42cpaid-17.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x9bcc…84c1backed Natus Vincere60c700$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4201560%9 W · 6 L+2.2wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+62.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x23b4…7056backed Legacy40c666.95$267 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$400.173441.2%14 W · 20 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9733…f034backed Natus Vincere60c600$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3607450%37 W · 37 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid+6.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xda32…04a1backed Legacy41c600$246 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35431444.9%141 W · 173 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5978…aec4backed Legacy35c572.29$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$372.2922938%87 W · 142 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-13.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f05…a9b9backed Natus Vincere60c542.18$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32527459.5%163 W · 111 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick58cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Natus Vincere26c535.1$139 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.4556732.5%184 W · 383 L-30.0wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-36.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf743…1811backed Natus Vincere38c528$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.0429831.5%94 W · 204 L-16.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-29.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x4328…11d2backed Natus Vincere23c500$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11618943.4%82 W · 107 L-0.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3763…345fbacked Natus Vincere50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25053545%241 W · 294 L-11.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-2.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xee4b…43dcbacked Legacy40c499.99$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$299.9938051.3%195 W · 185 L+12.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x60b8…d47dbacked Natus Vincere61c476.48$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29060857.2%348 W · 260 L-7.4wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4047…7293backed Legacy39c471.97$184 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$287.945848.5%222 W · 236 L+12.3wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Legacy48c468.54$225 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$243.272,09241.6%871 W · 1,221 L-50.8wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-16.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xad4b…e93dbacked Natus Vincere43c467.23$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.919050%45 W · 45 L+6.2wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+10.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0659…d74dbacked Natus Vincere58c449$260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.4298352.4%515 W · 468 L+26.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Natus Vincere44c439.28$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.312,22141.3%917 W · 1,304 L-22.6wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-19.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked Natus Vincere44c429.51$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$189.013,94936.5%1,443 W · 2,506 L-201.4wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-29.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc7ed…6c8bbacked Natus Vincere59c423.9$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$250.19343%40 W · 53 L-3.0wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-14.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Legacy40c419.99$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2525,87637.7%2,213 W · 3,663 L+71.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcb9b…6df8backed Natus Vincere57c418.14$238 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$238.3455845.7%255 W · 303 L-11.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x860e…a06dbacked Legacy43c400.27$172 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$228.678840.9%36 W · 52 L+2.0wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xef26…05babacked Legacy50c400$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20060540%242 W · 363 L-14.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xef66…f839backed Natus Vincere45c400$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18013036.9%48 W · 82 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked Legacy66c400$264 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1361,39365.9%918 W · 475 L+26.8wins+0.02per pick64cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf91c…baa7backed Natus Vincere47c388$184 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$183.9417345.7%79 W · 94 L+4.9wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed Natus Vincere49c385.88$189 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.7826743.1%115 W · 152 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed Natus Vincere32c371.37$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$117.326434.4%22 W · 42 L+0.2wins0.00per pick34cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x54e0…b02cbacked Natus Vincere37c338$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.951,65932.7%542 W · 1,117 L-49.4wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-12.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf679…16acbacked Legacy41c331.34$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19717042.9%73 W · 97 L-8.2wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb000…5ca6backed Natus Vincere32c312.5$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1007342.5%31 W · 42 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked Legacy46c305.57$141 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164.5947738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x86f8…1655backed Natus Vincere53c300$158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1583151.6%16 W · 15 L+0.5wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8240…edebbacked Natus Vincere13c300$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.6wins+0.07per pick55cpaid-10.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcc8d…5664backed Legacy41c299.99$123 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1778242.7%35 W · 47 L+5.6wins+0.07per pick36cpaid+19.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x92f5…13e5backed Natus Vincere60c291.67$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17515142.4%64 W · 87 L-7.5wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-14.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf898…e720backed Natus Vincere50c285.59$144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$143.671,37845.2%623 W · 755 L+17.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa8a8…bdc6backed Legacy61c265.31$162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$103.1311354%61 W · 52 L+0.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid+6.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6846…a82fbacked Legacy52c254$133 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$120.847865.4%51 W · 27 L+13.0wins+0.17per pick49cpaid+35.5%equal weight64+0.13 edge/pick
0xccec…1dfcbacked Natus Vincere38c236.84$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8921146%97 W · 114 L-6.5wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6b22…ba7bbacked Legacy41c222.76$91 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131.4310345.6%47 W · 56 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1941…48e0backed Natus Vincere38c221$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.511341.6%47 W · 66 L+0.4wins0.00per pick41cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x790c…d8babacked Legacy45c216.61$98 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$118.15650%3 W · 3 L-0.9wins-0.15per pick65cpaid-18.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8532…5fafbacked Legacy47c212.59$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$112.5925645.7%117 W · 139 L-1.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcb5b…f243backed Legacy44c202.7$89 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$113.714,03848.1%1,943 W · 2,095 L-23.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed Natus Vincere50c200.78$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10020744.4%92 W · 115 L-12.6wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-13.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf0b0…8cabbacked Natus Vincere58c200.42$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.8929547.8%141 W · 154 L+10.7wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-11.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1cb5…6be6backed Legacy41c200$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11823433.3%78 W · 156 L-22.5wins-0.10per pick43cpaid-33.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x9f43…843abacked Natus Vincere50c200$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010236.3%37 W · 65 L-10.4wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-22.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x61fe…0956backed Natus Vincere49c200$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.6610663.2%67 W · 39 L+10.5wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x1b97…4d93backed Natus Vincere57c200$114 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.998151.9%42 W · 39 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-6.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf3be…f543backed Legacy53c187.64$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.6422952%119 W · 110 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Legacy39c183.08$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.985,58047.2%2,632 W · 2,948 L+47.0wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xda1c…15f2backed Legacy66c175.29$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59.252250%11 W · 11 L-1.2wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.