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NBA · resolved market

Bucks vs. Pacers

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Pacersof Bucks, Pacers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,484,728
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,755,489

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,484,728 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 544 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x3196…146fbacked Bucks25c146,839$36,301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36,301.331936.8%7 W · 12 L-1.2wins-0.07per pick43cpaid-23%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb41b…95b2backed Pacers76c146,000$110,960 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35,039.992100%2 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.24per pick76cpaid+32.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x20e3…1ef5backed Bucks24c144,000$34,560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34,56010%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.24per pick24cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8480…486ebacked Bucks0c110,000$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick0cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xae36…8fb5backed Pacers57c92,247$52,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$40,107.4410357.3%59 W · 44 L+9.1wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+5.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc58d…9373backed Bucks23c88,888$20,444 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20,444.1728241.1%116 W · 166 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd44c…ab91backed Pacers76c66,281$50,553 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,728.0528347.7%135 W · 148 L-5.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-12.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe47c…3afabacked Pacers77c56,755$43,424 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,331.8423342.9%100 W · 133 L+10.6wins+0.05per pick38cpaid+1.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Bucks49c52,212$25,407 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,407.21,31650.5%664 W · 652 L+42.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6790…5e06backed Bucks24c52,000$12,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,4807335.6%26 W · 47 L+5.4wins+0.07per pick28cpaid+9.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa8e0…1dd2backed Pacers77c50,911$39,202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,709.646344.4%28 W · 35 L-4.1wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-3.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd9e0…05f2backed Pacers45c50,298$22,761 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27,536.251,40940.2%567 W · 842 L-40.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xafba…e61bbacked Pacers76c42,010$31,808 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,202.547848.1%230 W · 248 L-9.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8377…4198backed Pacers60c37,728$22,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,927.875940.7%24 W · 35 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9a75…4347backed Bucks36c25,640$9,308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,307.8813248.5%64 W · 68 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x325f…d8acbacked Bucks53c21,458$11,322 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,321.5670640.8%288 W · 418 L+7.8wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-10.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc6ab…5eb9backed Pacers61c21,408$13,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,408.416873.5%50 W · 18 L+5.9wins+0.09per pick65cpaid+20.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Pacers39c16,042$6,194 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,848.4596447.8%461 W · 503 L+35.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+17.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x090a…01b4backed Pacers46c15,374$7,111 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,263.385433.3%18 W · 36 L-2.8wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-35.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe653…c4a7backed Pacers53c14,401$7,599 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,802.3122457.1%128 W · 96 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x727b…d1a2backed Pacers77c14,292$10,943 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,349.0228341.7%118 W · 165 L+9.3wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-7.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Pacers46c13,925$6,356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,569.2648046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe38e…c29dbacked Pacers72c13,900$10,042 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,858.0913560.7%82 W · 53 L-3.6wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-4.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x12d6…dbbcbacked Pacers70c13,258$9,302 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,955.6420047%94 W · 106 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe877…bb43backed Pacers49c12,977$6,329 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,648.032222.7%5 W · 17 L-2.3wins-0.11per pick33cpaid-43.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x2aa2…4d22backed Pacers76c11,450$8,702 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,747.9836057.5%207 W · 153 L-14.7wins-0.04per pick62cpaid-9.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Bucks55c11,332$6,286 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,285.7566744.5%297 W · 370 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa49b…4c40backed Pacers76c10,721$8,154 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,566.6714434%49 W · 95 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick33cpaid-5.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xbb91…b665backed Bucks24c10,000$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,4001855.6%10 W · 8 L-0.7wins-0.04per pick59cpaid-21.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x083c…3f02backed Pacers76c10,000$7,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,4005100%5 W · 0 L+1.6wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+59.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x7f33…341dbacked Pacers76c10,000$7,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,4004100%4 W · 0 L+1.3wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+48.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x41b7…f6babacked Pacers53c10,000$5,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,699.9980146.4%372 W · 429 L-1.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe15e…3718backed Bucks24c9,999$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,399.7640%0 W · 4 L-1.3wins-0.32per pick32cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xbcd8…1ca9backed Pacers76c9,995$7,596 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,398.8250%1 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.12per pick38cpaid-34.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xca52…3f41backed Bucks24c9,990$2,398 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,397.5920%0 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.12per pick12cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd616…1106backed Pacers45c9,658$4,394 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,264.871338.5%5 W · 8 L+0.5wins+0.04per pick35cpaid+29.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x05b9…af0abacked Bucks46c8,716$3,988 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,988.322240.9%9 W · 13 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+29.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb13d…2e90backed Bucks44c8,125$3,537 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,537.0488053.8%473 W · 407 L+52.3wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+9.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x6205…7bbebacked Pacers75c8,089$6,050 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,039.671258.3%7 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.03per pick61cpaid+7.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Pacers61c8,070$4,916 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,154.11,75240.6%712 W · 1,040 L-3.3wins0.00per pick41cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x011f…1122backed Bucks33c7,953$2,633 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,632.646426.1%121 W · 343 L+0.4wins0.00per pick26cpaid-16.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd9a0…88eebacked Bucks37c7,004$2,606 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,606.2112938%49 W · 80 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-15.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5ef2…f473backed Pacers72c6,737$4,860 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,877.475736.8%21 W · 36 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick38cpaid+5.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x799c…bcefbacked Pacers77c6,596$5,079 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,516.9727163.5%172 W · 99 L+0.9wins0.00per pick63cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa8f2…5495backed Pacers60c6,572$3,943 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,628.895536.4%20 W · 35 L-3.7wins-0.07per pick43cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xbf40…1bd2backed Pacers35c6,329$2,213 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,115.6812232%39 W · 83 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-5.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb8c4…7385backed Bucks32c6,278$2,037 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,036.7347542.3%201 W · 274 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Bucks42c6,235$2,610 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,610.035,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x24df…e8b2backed Bucks25c6,232$1,558 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,557.9937734%128 W · 249 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf730…3de2backed Pacers64c6,229$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,228.538962.9%56 W · 33 L+6.9wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+6.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xa849…c825backed Bucks24c6,000$1,440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,44016641%68 W · 98 L-12.9wins-0.08per pick49cpaid-17.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7ba5…aaf1backed Pacers76c6,000$4,550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,45036748.2%177 W · 190 L-4.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Bucks54c5,756$3,119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,118.783,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb100…6461backed Pacers47c5,745$2,722 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,023.3423237.1%86 W · 146 L+4.7wins+0.02per pick35cpaid-24.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf586…f614backed Pacers69c5,662$3,894 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,767.863243.8%14 W · 18 L-3.7wins-0.11per pick55cpaid-22.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0e4a…311cbacked Pacers75c5,649$4,241 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,407.811443.9%50 W · 64 L-3.3wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4ef2…d0dabacked Bucks22c5,550$1,211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,21111019.1%21 W · 89 L-3.4wins-0.03per pick22cpaid-11.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4344…caefbacked Bucks24c5,169$1,241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,240.593148.4%15 W · 16 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-24.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c81…dcd3backed Bucks24c5,000$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20046342.5%197 W · 266 L+8.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x067f…e041backed Bucks25c5,000$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2501,26944.5%565 W · 704 L+32.4wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x40f8…327dbacked Bucks24c5,000$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,199.996339.7%25 W · 38 L-3.6wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-19.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6e82…752cbacked Pacers74c4,725$3,496 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,228.451,20455.3%666 W · 538 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+12.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2fe6…ab9dbacked Pacers59c4,290$2,531 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,759.149849.4%246 W · 252 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7592…f661backed Pacers55c4,087$2,262 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,824.625728.1%16 W · 41 L-5.2wins-0.09per pick37cpaid-36.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x89c9…9534backed Pacers76c4,000$3,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96066153.3%352 W · 309 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid+0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe0db…f44ebacked Pacers75c4,000$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,00079549.7%395 W · 400 L-0.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5fc8…39efbacked Pacers76c4,000$3,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9607051.4%36 W · 34 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x41ba…dfbbbacked Pacers77c3,896$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$896.14465.9%29 W · 15 L+3.7wins+0.08per pick58cpaid+17.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0f66…8938backed Bucks24c3,886$920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$920.126431.8%84 W · 180 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick31cpaid+5.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd2bd…dce0backed Pacers77c3,853$2,967 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$886.2577745%350 W · 427 L+6.6wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4c54…cc1ebacked Pacers77c3,640$2,801 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$839.222050%10 W · 10 L-1.1wins-0.06per pick56cpaid-16.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9997…af3bbacked Pacers68c3,578$2,427 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,151.228259.8%49 W · 33 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick61cpaid+13.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8f0b…eb6dbacked Bucks23c3,380$777 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$777.3322137.6%83 W · 138 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xd065…93e8backed Bucks56c3,340$1,886 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,885.5210945.9%50 W · 59 L-7.3wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-15.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xad18…0b4fbacked Pacers52c3,059$1,577 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,482.1753134.7%184 W · 347 L-11.7wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc8b4…f05dbacked Pacers75c3,000$2,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$750.0166853.4%357 W · 311 L+22.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1d3a…7b63backed Pacers77c3,000$2,310 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$69076249.5%377 W · 385 L-8.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x574e…3ef1backed Pacers50c3,000$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,50030443.1%131 W · 173 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0537…13b6backed Pacers75c3,000$2,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7502462.5%15 W · 9 L+5.4wins+0.23per pick40cpaid+68.7%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x1571…c4e6backed Bucks33c2,998$987 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$986.8719419.1%37 W · 157 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick21cpaid-26.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfcad…0dacbacked Pacers78c2,751$2,140 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$610.977754.5%42 W · 35 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-0.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x76c8…ba09backed Pacers44c2,666$1,162 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,504.477929.1%23 W · 56 L-2.0wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-17.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x605a…c6debacked Pacers77c2,600$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$600.1417454.6%95 W · 79 L-4.2wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce13…a213backed Pacers76c2,531$1,924 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$607.431435.7%5 W · 9 L-1.8wins-0.13per pick49cpaid-33.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf137…a557backed Bucks24c2,500$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6001353.8%7 W · 6 L+2.0wins+0.15per pick39cpaid+17.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xd1ac…08d5backed Pacers55c2,491$1,369 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,1229946.5%46 W · 53 L+8.0wins+0.08per pick38cpaid+1.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x5530…d38dbacked Pacers69c2,400$1,666 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$733.661,05353.5%563 W · 490 L-15.4wins-0.01per pick55cpaid+2%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x98cc…7470backed Pacers69c2,352$1,621 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$731.172035%7 W · 13 L-3.4wins-0.17per pick52cpaid-36.5%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xcc8f…a7bbbacked Pacers76c2,341$1,779 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$561.766155.7%34 W · 27 L+6.2wins+0.10per pick46cpaid+50.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x81f5…70afbacked Pacers75c2,320$1,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$58019448.5%94 W · 100 L+0.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid+3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xed0e…b305backed Pacers1c2,280$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,256.9321723.5%51 W · 166 L+9.6wins+0.04per pick19cpaid+75.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4447…a0e7backed Pacers65c2,148$1,398 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$750.169450%47 W · 47 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e42…9003backed Bucks70c2,118$1,479 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,479.1710551.4%54 W · 51 L-2.0wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-8.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d45…b661backed Bucks56c2,005$1,131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,131.3413731.4%43 W · 94 L+4.9wins+0.04per pick28cpaid-0.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x283d…0dadbacked Pacers50c2,002$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0022330.4%7 W · 16 L-6.1wins-0.26per pick57cpaid-49.1%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0xfcb0…c865backed Pacers76c2,000$1,520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4807953.2%42 W · 37 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4727…aa86backed Bucks40c2,000$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$800955.6%5 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.13per pick43cpaid+62.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9ecd…a578backed Pacers75c1,970$1,477 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$492.523135.1%81 W · 150 L-11.1wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-11.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x188d…6583backed Bucks20c1,913$383 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$382.635038%19 W · 31 L+3.5wins+0.07per pick31cpaid+25.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x578d…fbb3backed Pacers76c1,897$1,442 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$455.287149.3%35 W · 36 L-3.4wins-0.05per pick54cpaid-20.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.