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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Pistons (-2.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Heatof Pistons, Heat
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,185,253

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,185,253 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 159 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xdb27…c56ebacked Heat55c525,808$288,936 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$236,871.8187144.7%389 W · 482 L+14.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4924…3782backed Pistons45c505,324$227,396 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227,395.6987451.5%450 W · 424 L+15.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8a6c…0b3fbacked Heat57c142,851$81,091 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61,759.9936549.6%181 W · 184 L-1.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid-3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Pistons45c41,205$18,419 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,419.131,37450.1%689 W · 685 L+34.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfbf3…b218backed Pistons44c25,734$11,323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,322.9229245.5%133 W · 159 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb2a4…cf8abacked Pistons46c24,952$11,478 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,477.7524744.1%109 W · 138 L-10.8wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Pistons44c22,391$9,856 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,856.234,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Pistons45c21,590$9,641 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,640.589,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed Heat56c21,559$12,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,559.041,19448.8%583 W · 611 L-22.7wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Pistons46c20,778$9,603 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,602.814,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x72b4…7d67backed Pistons45c18,117$8,153 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,152.6530845.8%141 W · 167 L-12.8wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-9.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xdc87…7ab6backed Heat55c14,536$7,944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,592.592,66648%1,279 W · 1,387 L-8.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe20a…e469backed Heat55c13,129$7,221 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,908.22,36148.1%1,136 W · 1,225 L-41.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xada5…db70backed Pistons45c11,834$5,327 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,327.2451354.2%278 W · 235 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xac0a…f89ebacked Pistons43c10,000$4,340 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,34038251%195 W · 187 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8cdc…b83fbacked Pistons45c8,827$3,972 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,97220948.8%102 W · 107 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6f95…b08bbacked Heat53c8,767$4,633 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,1343250%16 W · 16 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x05e3…4b87backed Pistons43c8,058$3,465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,464.9347856.7%271 W · 207 L+11.6wins+0.02per pick54cpaid+6.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Heat55c8,000$4,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,60058449.7%290 W · 294 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x00d5…ed84backed Pistons49c8,000$3,905 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,904.8717050%85 W · 85 L+3.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Pistons44c7,982$3,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,479.814,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdf05…291bbacked Pistons45c6,667$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0002744.4%12 W · 15 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Pistons43c6,429$2,780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,779.796,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Heat56c6,080$3,405 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,675.4865750.1%329 W · 328 L+10.8wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Pistons44c5,899$2,596 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,595.782,15351.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L+76.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xda22…6d2abacked Pistons26c5,853$1,546 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,545.769443.6%41 W · 53 L+3.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf588…2b81backed Pistons42c5,525$2,306 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,306.2540243.8%176 W · 226 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-12.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Heat57c5,314$3,030 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,283.872,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Pistons45c5,117$2,303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,302.82,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Heat54c5,115$2,762 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,352.91,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7b47…d615backed Pistons47c5,000$2,350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,35057950.1%290 W · 289 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Heat55c4,944$2,719 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,224.7866248.5%321 W · 341 L-0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid-8.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Pistons49c4,256$2,082 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,081.552,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xea2b…1fc6backed Pistons43c3,948$1,698 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,697.5438253.4%204 W · 178 L+6.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf1ef…8cd6backed Heat55c3,929$2,161 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,767.9243348.5%210 W · 223 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+6.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8717…32c2backed Heat52c3,566$1,845 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,72141553.3%221 W · 194 L+0.2wins0.00per pick53cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x78ad…45ccbacked Heat52c3,500$1,820 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,6808361.4%51 W · 32 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick60cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf28e…cab2backed Heat57c3,345$1,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,445.556646.5%263 W · 303 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed Heat55c3,333$1,833 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,499.8414753.1%78 W · 69 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Pistons42c3,000$1,260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2602,75350.7%1,396 W · 1,357 L+47.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xecfc…cd05backed Pistons45c2,502$1,126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,125.841,16352.8%614 W · 549 L+22.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x622e…07abbacked Pistons45c2,213$996 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99617356.1%97 W · 76 L+8.5wins+0.05per pick51cpaid+4.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x685d…22d6backed Pistons48c1,967$938 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93830157.1%172 W · 129 L+14.0wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x33c9…6f9abacked Heat56c1,500$840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$660.258657%49 W · 37 L+3.2wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+11.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6a32…0086backed Heat53c1,318$698 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$619.281,33251.2%682 W · 650 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a86…d3e0backed Heat54c1,100$592 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$507.773,28549.1%1,613 W · 1,672 L+5.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x78a2…d0a5backed Pistons45c1,094$492 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$492.4118343.7%80 W · 103 L-0.1wins0.00per pick44cpaid+1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Pistons42c1,027$431 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$431.345,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Heat71c792.25$562 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$229.751,20051.6%619 W · 581 L+66.5wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+4.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x066f…b576backed Pistons47c730.73$345 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$344.521,63448.1%786 W · 848 L+5.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa583…2928backed Pistons45c711.11$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3202737%10 W · 17 L-2.6wins-0.10per pick47cpaid-26.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd4da…3175backed Pistons47c630.64$296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$296.471547.7%341 W · 374 L-26.9wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-6.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9325…adafbacked Heat58c614.51$356 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$258.5111754.7%64 W · 53 L+6.7wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+5.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2714…960fbacked Heat55c600$330 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.1449345.2%223 W · 270 L-14.0wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-6.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2b85…bf37backed Heat56c557.58$312 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$245.836045%162 W · 198 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x391d…def1backed Pistons43c556.9$241 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$241.0128842.7%123 W · 165 L+6.6wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdbb4…48bebacked Heat73c555.28$404 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$151.285858.6%34 W · 24 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick56cpaid-2.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked Heat71c499.99$355 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1453,34153.4%1,785 W · 1,556 L+108.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa266…67f7backed Pistons45c444.44$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20016740.1%67 W · 100 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-3.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbdc3…c0eabacked Pistons44c443.18$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1952259.1%13 W · 9 L+2.5wins+0.11per pick48cpaid+24.9%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Heat55c441$243 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$198.451,66752.7%878 W · 789 L+45.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbc1b…3b5bbacked Heat56c430.06$240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$190.1324946.6%116 W · 133 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x64db…325bbacked Pistons48c416.67$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,25948.7%613 W · 646 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf09f…8049backed Heat55c400$220 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$180.0266645.9%306 W · 360 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3dcf…4eb4backed Pistons49c387.57$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$190.6787453.3%466 W · 408 L+19.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3f5e…94e9backed Heat52c347.84$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$166.9622746.3%105 W · 122 L-8.8wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Pistons41c319.38$131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.821,63341.2%672 W · 961 L+26.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x44ca…907cbacked Pistons45c313.85$141 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$140.9945646.7%213 W · 243 L-0.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0273…1867backed Pistons19c266.67$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5029040.3%117 W · 173 L-7.3wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b23…04a3backed Pistons45c222.47$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10060250.5%304 W · 298 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-1.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2a67…5d96backed Pistons45c222.22$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1004161%25 W · 16 L+1.9wins+0.05per pick56cpaid+1.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf213…a627backed Pistons45c222.22$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10020237.1%75 W · 127 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbe86…6763backed Heat56c217.39$122 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.8710243.1%44 W · 58 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4008…2942backed Pistons45c214.04$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.2618254.4%99 W · 83 L+9.7wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+9.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbc6f…5d6fbacked Heat56c206.08$115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.7823144.2%102 W · 129 L-3.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-2.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Pistons42c200$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$832,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5cf1…8277backed Heat55c200$110 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90.217236%62 W · 110 L-19.3wins-0.11per pick47cpaid-31.9%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x80d8…b703backed Pistons45c187.41$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.681,42547.7%680 W · 745 L+13.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Pistons47c185.5$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.191,43347.2%676 W · 757 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Pistons43c164.62$71 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.433,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Pistons49c162.9$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80.093,12044.7%1,394 W · 1,726 L-7.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2b78…c6b5backed Heat55c160.72$89 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.991,19748.9%585 W · 612 L-14.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xea78…a74ebacked Pistons45c157$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70.4956547.8%270 W · 295 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf0b0…8cabbacked Heat76c153.45$117 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$36.831,55437.3%579 W · 975 L-48.1wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-18.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Pistons43c152.22$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.452,73646.7%1,277 W · 1,459 L-67.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0307…7ab8backed Heat62c151.55$94 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.3845452%236 W · 218 L+11.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb0fd…e1f5backed Pistons49c150$74 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73.549351.7%255 W · 238 L-4.1wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf1ad…6979backed Heat55c148.86$82 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$66.8857650%288 W · 288 L+1.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x83a3…6292backed Heat54c148.15$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$68.1581845.7%374 W · 444 L+9.2wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-3.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4892…27bcbacked Heat57c141.08$80 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$61.084369.8%30 W · 13 L+6.5wins+0.15per pick55cpaid+34.6%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x362a…8683backed Heat57c137.37$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59.0713155%72 W · 59 L+5.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5b41…01c7backed Pistons47c132$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.0453839.4%212 W · 326 L-26.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-13.8%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x8ff3…1aa9backed Heat53c129$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$60.6319645.9%90 W · 106 L-4.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2942…a018backed Heat54c125.93$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.9323143.3%100 W · 131 L-13.5wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x95fe…3896backed Heat56c125.16$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.1617046.5%79 W · 91 L-7.0wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-8.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xda21…8646backed Pistons47c115.19$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.1462541.9%262 W · 363 L-32.7wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-11%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xefb9…e74fbacked Pistons44c113.03$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.2514046.4%65 W · 75 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-9.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xedde…7753backed Pistons45c111.11$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$506550.8%33 W · 32 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-12.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Pistons38c108.37$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.993,66841.9%1,538 W · 2,130 L-70.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3d57…2b4ebacked Heat56c100$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.1153945.3%244 W · 295 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 39 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.