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Fifa International · resolved market

Will Cabo Verde vs. Saudi Arabia end in a draw?

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Yesof Yes, No
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,675,935
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,827,281

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,675,935 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a prediction-market account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,163 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x6754…e3bcbacked No72c170,000$122,671 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122,670.9915456.5%87 W · 67 L+5.6wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+9.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9f0c…7ca5backed No73c133,952$97,785 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97,784.971560%9 W · 6 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick62cpaid+148.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9703…69c2backed No72c130,981$94,171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94,171.1729952.5%157 W · 142 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x32b4…8b21backed Yes38c93,326$35,802 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57,524.1524441.8%102 W · 142 L-5.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed No44c57,550$25,315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,315.444,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked No38c46,394$17,589 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17,589.383,69636.9%1,364 W · 2,332 L-44.0wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-23.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Yes28c44,444$12,444 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31,999.6842345.6%193 W · 230 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed No72c36,736$26,507 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26,507.482,43929%707 W · 1,732 L-65.3wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Yes45c36,677$16,519 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,158.088,61429.2%2,518 W · 6,096 L-166.6wins-0.02per pick31cpaid-32.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x20d6…3856backed Yes27c36,000$9,720 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26,2807126.8%19 W · 52 L-5.1wins-0.07per pick34cpaid-41.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0346…52a5backed Yes56c34,166$19,178 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,988.022,40737.7%908 W · 1,499 L-48.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-25.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1b47…d814backed No18c26,498$4,753 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,752.9456541.1%232 W · 333 L-9.4wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-11.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Yes26c20,816$5,412 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,404.0314232.4%46 W · 96 L-12.8wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-28%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xb014…a357backed No42c20,774$8,656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,655.5415642.9%67 W · 89 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6550…8451backed No39c20,325$7,873 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,872.9921738.7%84 W · 133 L-8.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x91b9…3ab4backed Yes28c18,000$5,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,959.999645.8%44 W · 52 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Yes62c17,778$11,058 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,719.8138734.4%133 W · 254 L-4.8wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-29.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Yes28c17,502$4,901 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,601.731,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Yes63c17,327$10,906 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,421.1679231.1%246 W · 546 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick32cpaid-34.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcc32…92d2backed Yes64c15,175$9,682 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,493.6510355.3%57 W · 46 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf742…e039backed Yes31c15,000$4,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,40026447.7%126 W · 138 L+9.8wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+4.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x06f2…1269backed No42c14,994$6,272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,271.738333.9%130 W · 253 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick33cpaid-34.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4f29…7a7ebacked Yes50c14,358$7,153 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,205.381,22443.4%531 W · 693 L-7.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-13.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1d60…453dbacked Yes45c13,718$6,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,518.2965948.6%320 W · 339 L-4.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-9.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Yes28c12,299$3,441 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,858.741,26247.5%600 W · 662 L-15.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked Yes70c10,697$7,521 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,175.831945.5%145 W · 174 L-0.8wins0.00per pick46cpaid-28.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec8f…8df8backed No72c10,280$7,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,40015746.5%73 W · 84 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed No52c10,266$5,321 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,320.984,45737.2%1,657 W · 2,800 L+31.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec56…1816backed No9c8,977$845 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$844.7184738.8%329 W · 518 L-9.9wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-17.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Yes57c8,772$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,771.937550.7%38 W · 37 L-2.3wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2fc5…6f99backed Yes57c8,772$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,771.9315131.8%48 W · 103 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-21.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4572…5e86backed No55c8,050$4,427 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,427.4611642.2%49 W · 67 L+4.6wins+0.04per pick38cpaid+37.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7236…ea53backed No72c8,000$5,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,76036250.8%184 W · 178 L-6.7wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-1.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa2fc…b1b4backed Yes69c7,932$5,482 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,449.5136634.4%126 W · 240 L-24.4wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-38.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x122c…fbedbacked No23c7,786$1,807 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,806.8131232.4%101 W · 211 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-25.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaa77…15a5backed Yes54c7,407$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,407.4110562.9%66 W · 39 L+9.0wins+0.09per pick54cpaid+12.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xd133…ef27backed Yes29c7,315$2,121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,193.9813842.8%59 W · 79 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5d68…9ff7backed Yes60c7,263$4,373 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,890.075749.1%28 W · 29 L+4.7wins+0.08per pick41cpaid+9.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xac1c…d8b5backed Yes28c7,220$2,022 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,198.414734%50 W · 97 L+4.6wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+18.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0cf6…0e3bbacked No66c7,088$4,652 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,651.6126534%90 W · 175 L+7.3wins+0.03per pick31cpaid-9.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd581…2b59backed Yes42c7,078$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,078.172138.1%8 W · 13 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+4.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Yes27c7,023$1,906 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,116.521,56043.8%684 W · 876 L-4.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf94f…9adabacked Yes29c6,809$1,975 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,834.712763%17 W · 10 L+2.1wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+27.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Yes28c6,546$1,848 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,698.272,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6082…3323backed Yes78c6,393$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,392.7617945.3%81 W · 98 L+4.5wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+5.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaff3…6eccbacked Yes58c6,191$3,613 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,578.4321141.7%88 W · 123 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-21.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5964…776bbacked Yes29c6,034$1,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,284.489443.6%41 W · 53 L+5.5wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+3.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xc60f…5b36backed Yes30c5,500$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,8507630.3%23 W · 53 L+4.7wins+0.06per pick24cpaid+5.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3355…dd2fbacked No13c5,490$734 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$733.644235.7%15 W · 27 L-4.3wins-0.10per pick46cpaid-21.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x7c7a…aa54backed Yes29c5,172$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,672.411926.3%5 W · 14 L+1.1wins+0.06per pick20cpaid-21.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0d1d…eb2ebacked Yes31c5,000$1,554 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,446.7214542.8%62 W · 83 L+8.7wins+0.06per pick37cpaid-22.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc7fb…e5fdbacked Yes25c5,000$1,250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,75011256.3%63 W · 49 L+9.5wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+14.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xb87b…3626backed Yes28c5,000$1,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,60024526.5%65 W · 180 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick28cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Yes27c4,985$1,369 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,615.8874752.2%390 W · 357 L+2.4wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Yes68c4,856$3,299 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,557.533337.8%126 W · 207 L-12.7wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-40.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf15f…4497backed Yes54c4,206$2,271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,934.612754.3%69 W · 58 L+0.2wins0.00per pick54cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfeb4…2d0abacked Yes57c4,145$2,363 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,782.331457.1%8 W · 6 L+1.0wins+0.07per pick50cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2106…4deabacked No71c3,999$2,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,859.5118843.6%82 W · 106 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x99c4…18e7backed No34c3,943$1,325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,324.9913037.7%49 W · 81 L-10.7wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-41.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x999a…9a25backed Yes69c3,855$2,653 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,201.8824443%105 W · 139 L-5.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-29.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed No40c3,760$1,521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,520.892,30737.6%867 W · 1,440 L-16.7wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-27.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd026…ec2fbacked Yes68c3,676$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,176.475236.5%19 W · 33 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick35cpaid-31.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbc48…24c3backed No14c3,660$512 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$512.43842.1%16 W · 22 L-1.7wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-21.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked No27c3,653$986 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$985.6530117.9%54 W · 247 L-11.2wins-0.04per pick22cpaid-22.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x132f…453bbacked Yes56c3,571$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,571.437135.2%25 W · 46 L-3.2wins-0.04per pick40cpaid-24.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2c1a…5cb0backed Yes28c3,570$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,570.425537.6%96 W · 159 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-14.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1fd8…7749backed Yes29c3,448$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,448.2816041.3%66 W · 94 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x851a…6b12backed Yes29c3,448$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,448.289631.3%30 W · 66 L+2.9wins+0.03per pick28cpaid-5.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x228b…af4cbacked No20c3,428$685 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$684.772,97328%831 W · 2,142 L-132.5wins-0.04per pick32cpaid-39%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc499…f793backed Yes59c3,408$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,407.667843.6%34 W · 44 L-4.6wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-25.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x22f9…f814backed Yes30c3,333$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,333.333240.6%13 W · 19 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x635c…45c6backed Yes60c3,333$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,333.333554.3%19 W · 16 L+0.3wins+0.01per pick53cpaid-5.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a44…d5a5backed No59c3,181$1,877 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,876.8916549.1%81 W · 84 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb72e…7c3bbacked Yes29c3,103$900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,203.452339.1%9 W · 14 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-7.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x20e5…118dbacked No73c3,049$2,215 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,214.9533549%164 W · 171 L-5.1wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-7.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8fbb…9a17backed No70c3,022$2,116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,116.3617452.3%91 W · 83 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Yes70c3,018$2,105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$912.3842043.1%181 W · 239 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-32.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe60a…cb34backed Yes58c3,017$1,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,267.27740.3%31 W · 46 L-4.9wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-23.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6ede…4284backed Yes28c3,000$840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,16018738%71 W · 116 L+0.6wins0.00per pick38cpaid-4.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4379…2e16backed No70c3,000$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,099.9923255.2%128 W · 104 L+0.2wins0.00per pick55cpaid+4.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1685…6de4backed Yes37c2,941$1,080 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,860.7527239%106 W · 166 L-12.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-28.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x160b…4296backed No71c2,868$2,036 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,036.151,04443.7%456 W · 588 L+20.7wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+14.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8753…85adbacked Yes28c2,860$801 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,059.1925857.4%148 W · 110 L+11.0wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5016…1eebbacked Yes70c2,858$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$858.235650%28 W · 28 L-2.3wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xca89…7bc4backed No71c2,847$2,021 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,021.1237850.5%191 W · 187 L-7.5wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-2.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe1a6…d584backed No72c2,800$2,016 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,01638351.4%197 W · 186 L-1.7wins0.00per pick52cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Yes67c2,780$1,851 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$929.134,02738.9%1,568 W · 2,459 L-26.6wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-23.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8718…5040backed Yes78c2,564$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$564.14774.5%35 W · 12 L+3.8wins+0.08per pick66cpaid+12.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xf58b…5f34backed Yes28c2,500$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,8007028.6%20 W · 50 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick29cpaid+0.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfb13…5946backed No71c2,400$1,704 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,70435251.7%182 W · 170 L-3.9wins-0.01per pick53cpaid+0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked No9c2,387$211 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$210.5414132.6%46 W · 95 L-8.9wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-35.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2e7a…29f6backed Yes42c2,381$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,380.954035%14 W · 26 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3c80…93b5backed Yes42c2,381$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,380.955257.7%30 W · 22 L+8.6wins+0.17per pick41cpaid+48.8%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x2fdd…2f82backed Yes42c2,347$989 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,358.383354.5%18 W · 15 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+45.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2568…ef92backed No71c2,308$1,639 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,638.9230751.1%157 W · 150 L-9.0wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-8.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xad52…990fbacked Yes44c2,272$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,271.939335.5%33 W · 60 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+10.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8e8d…acc4backed Yes29c2,149$623 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,525.682646.2%12 W · 14 L+1.7wins+0.07per pick40cpaid+11.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2383…072fbacked Yes29c2,069$600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,468.971662.5%10 W · 6 L+2.5wins+0.16per pick47cpaid+56.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x8b7a…9e24backed Yes58c2,006$1,159 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$846.8213234.1%45 W · 87 L+0.2wins0.00per pick34cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8ae5…4f22backed No73c2,000$1,460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,46018465.8%121 W · 63 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick65cpaid+3.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.