UFC · resolved market
Petersen vs. Petrino
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What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Petrinoof Petersen, Petrino
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- UFCevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $55,950
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $66,601
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $55,950 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 80 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in UFC is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in UFC | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x1117…3532backed Petersen | 27c | 23,322$6,297 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$6,296.9 | 195 | 44.6%87 W · 108 L | -0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 45cpaid | -5.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2699…29f6backed Petrino | 72c | 7,038$5,067 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,970.99 | 31 | 51.6%16 W · 15 L | +1.8wins | +0.06per pick | 46cpaid | +30.8%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x4e53…b9d1backed Petrino | 73c | 6,560$4,788 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,772.66 | 11 | 54.5%6 W · 5 L | -0.7wins | -0.06per pick | 61cpaid | -18%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x14ac…cb21backed Petrino | 73c | 6,262$4,551 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,711.41 | 63 | 46%29 W · 34 L | -3.1wins | -0.05per pick | 51cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x2b15…9b08backed Petersen | 28c | 5,278$1,453 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,453.35 | 291 | 51.9%151 W · 140 L | +3.1wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -7.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x132a…abe8backed Petrino | 73c | 4,408$3,218 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$1,190.06 | 32 | 34.4%11 W · 21 L | -2.8wins | -0.09per pick | 43cpaid | -18%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x7eed…5a28backed Petersen | 27c | 4,283$1,169 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,169.28 | 68 | 29.4%20 W · 48 L | -1.8wins | -0.03per pick | 32cpaid | -10.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xcbd6…bc18backed Petrino | 73c | 2,572$1,877 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$694.36 | 48 | 56.3%27 W · 21 L | +2.4wins | +0.05per pick | 51cpaid | +16.6%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe7ca…a175backed Petersen | 27c | 2,500$670 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$670 | 202 | 33.7%68 W · 134 L | +0.8wins | 0.00per pick | 33cpaid | -8.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4c9d…d327backed Petrino | 73c | 1,500$1,095 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$405 | 31 | 71%22 W · 9 L | +6.2wins | +0.20per pick | 51cpaid | +47%equal weight | 62+0.11 edge/pick |
| 0xfbbb…4433backed Petrino | 73c | 1,408$1,030 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$377.62 | 9 | 88.9%8 W · 1 L | +1.3wins | +0.14per pick | 75cpaid | +19.2%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb852…bfaebacked Petersen | 27c | 1,200$324 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$324.07 | 89 | 39.3%35 W · 54 L | +3.4wins | +0.04per pick | 35cpaid | +4.4%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xbfdf…8e02backed Petersen | 27c | 1,000$270 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$270 | 137 | 35.8%49 W · 88 L | -5.3wins | -0.04per pick | 40cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xeb4a…4ef5backed Petrino | 73c | 1,000$730 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$270 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | -0.5wins | -0.24per pick | 74cpaid | -31.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1dc8…4c1dbacked Petrino | 72c | 912.5$657 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$255.5 | 210 | 44.8%94 W · 116 L | +2.0wins | +0.01per pick | 44cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xc864…97dfbacked Petrino | 73c | 900$657 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$243 | 22 | 36.4%8 W · 14 L | -2.1wins | -0.10per pick | 46cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6b7c…5f83backed Petrino | 71c | 882.92$628 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$254.72 | 212 | 47.2%100 W · 112 L | +10.1wins | +0.05per pick | 42cpaid | +6.5%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x54b5…4b31backed Petersen | 31c | 750$234 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$234 | 367 | 45.8%168 W · 199 L | -1.0wins | 0.00per pick | 46cpaid | -3.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc092…0cd9backed Petersen | 22c | 703.67$155 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$154.81 | 121 | 34.7%42 W · 79 L | -2.3wins | -0.02per pick | 37cpaid | -12.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7c85…77c6backed Petrino | 73c | 700$511 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$189 | 399 | 59.6%238 W · 161 L | +6.1wins | +0.02per pick | 58cpaid | +3.5%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x53ab…65aabacked Petrino | 73c | 685.01$500 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$184.95 | 238 | 50.4%120 W · 118 L | +1.1wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x51f7…ae1fbacked Petersen | 4c | 630.56$23 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$22.52 | 223 | 34.1%76 W · 147 L | -3.9wins | -0.02per pick | 36cpaid | -25.5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3505…f7a3backed Petrino | 72c | 560$403 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$156.8 | 67 | 56.7%38 W · 29 L | -1.9wins | -0.03per pick | 59cpaid | -1.2%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x76ed…fa48backed Petrino | 73c | 547.95$400 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$147.95 | 111 | 40.5%45 W · 66 L | -5.6wins | -0.05per pick | 46cpaid | -12.8%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb0d7…f9fabacked Petrino | 72c | 509.99$367 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$143 | 122 | 62.3%76 W · 46 L | +3.4wins | +0.03per pick | 60cpaid | +10.9%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x41e0…a8e0backed Petrino | 73c | 500$365 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$135 | 70 | 52.9%37 W · 33 L | +0.4wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6dd6…f5f4backed Petrino | 78c | 369.66$288 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$81.32 | 539 | 56.6%305 W · 234 L | -2.1wins | 0.00per pick | 57cpaid | -4.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x20a8…f004backed Petersen | 32c | 336.68$106 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$106.41 | 209 | 54.1%113 W · 96 L | +3.7wins | +0.02per pick | 52cpaid | +7.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x2418…66c8backed Petersen | 27c | 304.39$82 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$82.19 | 37 | 40.5%15 W · 22 L | -3.8wins | -0.10per pick | 51cpaid | -17.8%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xce6d…28b5backed Petrino | 68c | 300$204 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$96 | 141 | 44.7%63 W · 78 L | -0.6wins | 0.00per pick | 45cpaid | -1.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb37f…6d0ebacked Petrino | 78c | 241.51$188 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$53.13 | 19 | 47.4%9 W · 10 L | +0.6wins | +0.03per pick | 44cpaid | +6.4%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xdf66…e823backed Petersen | 26c | 221.99$58 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$57.72 | 248 | 47.2%117 W · 131 L | +6.5wins | +0.03per pick | 45cpaid | +10.4%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x1102…af36backed Petersen | 31c | 219.98$68 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$68 | 487 | 49.1%239 W · 248 L | -8.3wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -5%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x83ce…1778backed Petersen | 29c | 206.9$60 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$60 | 72 | 33.3%24 W · 48 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 34cpaid | +0.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2140…6598backed Petrino | 73c | 160$117 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$43.2 | 134 | 50%67 W · 67 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xfd79…f93ebacked Petrino | 72c | 150$108 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$42 | 522 | 52.9%276 W · 246 L | +15.0wins | +0.03per pick | 50cpaid | +3.4%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xdb90…1917backed Petersen | 28c | 149.99$42 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$42 | 115 | 40.9%47 W · 68 L | -10.2wins | -0.09per pick | 50cpaid | -16.5%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x9c96…f165backed Petersen | 28c | 144$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40.32 | 17 | 52.9%9 W · 8 L | +1.0wins | +0.06per pick | 47cpaid | +2.6%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xaade…64eabacked Petersen | 25c | 140.21$35 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$35.47 | 41 | 39%16 W · 25 L | -0.7wins | -0.02per pick | 41cpaid | -20.2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x44c1…aa71backed Petrino | 72c | 138.39$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.75 | 67 | 41.8%28 W · 39 L | +1.5wins | +0.02per pick | 40cpaid | -0.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xde46…a7afbacked Petrino | 73c | 136.99$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$36.99 | 12 | 50%6 W · 6 L | -0.2wins | -0.02per pick | 52cpaid | -2.2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x480d…f219backed Petrino | 73c | 136.99$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$36.99 | 355 | 39.4%140 W · 215 L | -19.1wins | -0.05per pick | 45cpaid | -15.9%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xab3b…a825backed Petrino | 73c | 136.99$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$36.99 | 227 | 53.3%121 W · 106 L | -7.1wins | -0.03per pick | 56cpaid | -7.1%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb49d…fdefbacked Petrino | 73c | 136.92$100 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$36.97 | 28 | 57.1%16 W · 12 L | -0.5wins | -0.02per pick | 59cpaid | -8.7%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb7d1…cd5ebacked Petrino | 74c | 121.62$90 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$31.62 | 17 | 58.8%10 W · 7 L | -1.3wins | -0.08per pick | 67cpaid | -15.2%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x0434…a98cbacked Petrino | 71c | 120$85 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$35.2 | 264 | 51.9%137 W · 127 L | +23.0wins | +0.09per pick | 43cpaid | +13.7%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x2766…4c94backed Petrino | 74c | 100.92$75 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$26.24 | 11 | 63.6%7 W · 4 L | +0.3wins | +0.03per pick | 61cpaid | -10.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5530…d38dbacked Petrino | 73c | 100$73 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$27 | 248 | 62.5%155 W · 93 L | +3.0wins | +0.01per pick | 61cpaid | +1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe016…424bbacked Petersen | 28c | 100$28 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$28 | 89 | 32.6%29 W · 60 L | -3.5wins | -0.04per pick | 37cpaid | -11.5%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x929c…8cb6backed Petrino | 71c | 100$71 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$29 | 111 | 52.3%58 W · 53 L | +1.3wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -4.1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0cba…b0e4backed Petersen | 42c | 95.24$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40 | 4 | 25%1 W · 3 L | -1.0wins | -0.26per pick | 51cpaid | -50%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd161…4cc1backed Petrino | 58c | 90.24$52 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.9 | 309 | 64.7%200 W · 109 L | +24.5wins | +0.08per pick | 57cpaid | +16.7%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xe54f…6b4dbacked Petrino | 73c | 89.04$65 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.04 | 12 | 33.3%4 W · 8 L | -1.9wins | -0.16per pick | 49cpaid | -33.2%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x21e3…af5cbacked Petersen | 29c | 86.21$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25 | 8 | 37.5%3 W · 5 L | -0.6wins | -0.08per pick | 45cpaid | -16.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x86e6…f634backed Petersen | 28c | 71.38$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 95 | 47.4%45 W · 50 L | +1.7wins | +0.02per pick | 46cpaid | +4.1%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf960…fcbfbacked Petrino | 72c | 70.72$51 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.72 | 24 | 66.7%16 W · 8 L | +2.9wins | +0.12per pick | 55cpaid | +24.9%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xdde5…a569backed Petrino | 65c | 70$45 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$24.7 | 7 | 57.1%4 W · 3 L | -0.3wins | -0.04per pick | 61cpaid | +2%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xab43…f7b3backed Petrino | 72c | 70$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.6 | 160 | 58.8%94 W · 66 L | +7.9wins | +0.05per pick | 54cpaid | +12%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa9a9…32a7backed Petrino | 72c | 69.44$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.44 | 6 | 66.7%4 W · 2 L | +0.6wins | +0.10per pick | 57cpaid | -7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5825…4ffbbacked Petrino | 72c | 69.44$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.44 | 119 | 42.9%51 W · 68 L | -5.3wins | -0.04per pick | 47cpaid | -9.7%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd3e5…1d48backed Petersen | 29c | 68.97$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 110 | 57.3%63 W · 47 L | +7.4wins | +0.07per pick | 51cpaid | +20.7%equal weight | 56+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xeb01…f1c9backed Petrino | 79c | 63.29$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13.29 | 24 | 75%18 W · 6 L | +3.6wins | +0.15per pick | 60cpaid | +29%equal weight | 58+0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x6643…0109backed Petersen | 28c | 62.24$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.43 | 121 | 47.1%57 W · 64 L | -2.8wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -11.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7e15…e4fabacked Petrino | 73c | 60.27$44 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.27 | 10 | 40%4 W · 6 L | -2.4wins | -0.24per pick | 64cpaid | -43.3%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xb575…2090backed Petersen | 28c | 50$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 37 | 37.8%14 W · 23 L | +0.7wins | +0.02per pick | 36cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0635…0119backed Petrino | 72c | 44.44$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.44 | 14 | 71.4%10 W · 4 L | +1.1wins | +0.08per pick | 64cpaid | +5.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xe795…e6debacked Petrino | 73c | 42.47$31 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.47 | 35 | 40%14 W · 21 L | -4.2wins | -0.12per pick | 52cpaid | -19.9%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xefb4…9653backed Petrino | 73c | 41.1$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.1 | 65 | 63.1%41 W · 24 L | -3.1wins | -0.05per pick | 68cpaid | -9.3%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7e94…db47backed Petrino | 74c | 40.54$30 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.54 | 113 | 64.6%73 W · 40 L | +6.3wins | +0.06per pick | 59cpaid | +17.3%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x8e92…cd3dbacked Petersen | 28c | 40$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.2 | 4 | 25%1 W · 3 L | -0.3wins | -0.07per pick | 32cpaid | -49%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x14c8…ce8bbacked Petrino | 75c | 38.6$29 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.6 | 32 | 68.8%22 W · 10 L | +3.1wins | +0.10per pick | 59cpaid | +15.2%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x4ffe…9f71backed Petersen | 30c | 37.34$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$11.09 | 194 | 18.6%36 W · 158 L | -3.4wins | -0.02per pick | 20cpaid | -16.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7259…a6c4backed Petrino | 73c | 34$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.18 | 37 | 37.8%14 W · 23 L | -2.2wins | -0.06per pick | 44cpaid | -21.5%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x312d…6814backed Petrino | 71c | 30.32$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$8.79 | 158 | 39.2%62 W · 96 L | -4.9wins | -0.03per pick | 42cpaid | -17.5%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x44d6…aafdbacked Petrino | 73c | 27.4$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.4 | 62 | 43.5%27 W · 35 L | -0.8wins | -0.01per pick | 45cpaid | -3.3%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x230a…2704backed Petrino | 74c | 27.19$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7.19 | 22 | 40.9%9 W · 13 L | -3.1wins | -0.14per pick | 55cpaid | -37.6%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x7943…c34cbacked Petrino | 73c | 20.4$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.51 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +0.6wins | +0.29per pick | 71cpaid | +39.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x3dfc…62a2backed Petrino | 73c | 18.97$14 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5.12 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +0.5wins | +0.27per pick | 73cpaid | +36.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6c82…6150backed Petrino | 70c | 15$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$4.5 | 58 | 67.2%39 W · 19 L | +2.4wins | +0.04per pick | 63cpaid | +7.3%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf3d0…dfbbbacked Petrino | 73c | 14$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$3.78 | 4 | 50%2 W · 2 L | -0.1wins | -0.02per pick | 52cpaid | -16.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in UFC and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 11 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Petersen vs. Petrinothis page
- Alekseeva vs. MesquitaMesquita won
- Almeida vs. Aswell Jr.Aswell Jr. won
- Diniz vs. PintoPinto won
- Figueiredo vs. JacksonFigueiredo won
- Filho vs. CarpenterFilho won
- Kowalkiewicz vs. PolastriPolastri won
- Luque vs. ÁlvarezÁlvarez won
- Oliveira vs. GamrotOliveira won
- Ramos vs. OfliOfli won
- Rocha vs. NicollRocha won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.