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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: Vitality vs TheMongolz (BO3) - PGL Cluj-Napoca Playoffs

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Vitalityof Vitality, TheMongolz
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,194,493
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,229,678

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,194,493 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 265 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xc257…358ebacked TheMongolz16c277,756$45,324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45,323.8239249%192 W · 200 L+0.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5877…d894backed TheMongolz18c100,000$18,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,0007943%34 W · 45 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xccb2…8586backed TheMongolz17c99,000$16,830 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,829.983961.5%24 W · 15 L+3.0wins+0.08per pick54cpaid+14.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x691a…d113backed TheMongolz0c44,800$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44.84944.9%22 W · 27 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-14.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0dcf…c556backed TheMongolz18c38,819$6,987 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,987.3423839.9%95 W · 143 L-11.0wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-13.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5eab…d552backed TheMongolz8c38,090$3,081 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,081.1618624.2%45 W · 141 L-5.2wins-0.03per pick27cpaid-30.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4f3e…41c9backed TheMongolz1c31,427$296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$296.092528%7 W · 18 L-1.7wins-0.07per pick35cpaid-56.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xf053…3939backed TheMongolz20c30,193$6,031 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,030.825867.2%39 W · 19 L+5.4wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+11.6%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x8705…cdf1backed TheMongolz7c27,964$1,922 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,921.5730%0 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.13per pick13cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf988…d63bbacked TheMongolz14c26,570$3,593 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,593.2535850.8%182 W · 176 L+11.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked TheMongolz9c17,450$1,504 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,504.1932930.4%100 W · 229 L-21.9wins-0.07per pick37cpaid-50.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked TheMongolz12c15,857$1,933 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,9331,62344.9%728 W · 895 L+4.4wins0.00per pick45cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1b07…96febacked TheMongolz4c13,568$542 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$541.96464.3%2 W · 44 L-1.5wins-0.03per pick8cpaid-74.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x17e9…fcc9backed TheMongolz17c12,353$2,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,1005954.2%32 W · 27 L-1.9wins-0.03per pick57cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5faf…1183backed TheMongolz17c11,765$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00010935.8%39 W · 70 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc49b…a5b8backed TheMongolz18c9,979$1,845 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,844.8613347.4%63 W · 70 L-8.8wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-19.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xdba8…9accbacked TheMongolz18c8,172$1,459 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,45930%0 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.24per pick24cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa643…d43dbacked TheMongolz18c8,000$1,440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,4402733.3%9 W · 18 L+1.3wins+0.05per pick28cpaid+0.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked TheMongolz15c7,424$1,114 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,114.283,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x63ab…f441backed TheMongolz9c6,518$577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$577.382828.6%8 W · 20 L-1.3wins-0.05per pick33cpaid-5.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xb6bd…b05abacked TheMongolz15c6,459$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00019834.8%69 W · 129 L-11.9wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-21.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa090…9854backed TheMongolz17c5,882$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0007238.9%28 W · 44 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe7cc…bc84backed TheMongolz9c5,534$510 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$510.48616.7%1 W · 5 L+0.3wins+0.05per pick11cpaid-48.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked TheMongolz18c5,297$957 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95752837.1%196 W · 332 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed TheMongolz18c4,996$878 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$877.6112648.4%61 W · 65 L-10.4wins-0.08per pick57cpaid-20.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1d5c…4f26backed TheMongolz17c4,706$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80035236.4%128 W · 224 L-1.4wins0.00per pick37cpaid+3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d58…9a15backed TheMongolz18c4,444$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$80014441.7%60 W · 84 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-9.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4de…0da4backed TheMongolz18c4,067$730 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$73033960.8%206 W · 133 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick59cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcd87…ac38backed TheMongolz27c4,008$1,101 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,100.7610047%47 W · 53 L+5.0wins+0.05per pick42cpaid-5.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed TheMongolz8c4,000$320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32035153.8%189 W · 162 L+12.5wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3265…d5b8backed TheMongolz3c4,000$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10013043.1%56 W · 74 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+10.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2560…0b02backed TheMongolz17c3,809$648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$647.9422448.7%109 W · 115 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-9.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb7e2…826cbacked TheMongolz25c3,632$908 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$908.058342.2%35 W · 48 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-15.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xcd06…3e8bbacked TheMongolz17c3,378$589 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$588.781546.7%7 W · 8 L-0.8wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-25.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5d34…7c8cbacked Vitality75c3,290$2,468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$822.5521424.8%53 W · 161 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick25cpaid-7.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa07d…9a01backed TheMongolz15c3,000$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45043933.7%148 W · 291 L-0.9wins0.00per pick34cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed TheMongolz18c3,000$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5401,41133.7%475 W · 936 L+42.1wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+8.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x66ba…621fbacked TheMongolz18c2,868$503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$502.6219043.7%83 W · 107 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xff85…4d83backed TheMongolz5c2,652$121 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1211338.5%5 W · 8 L+1.1wins+0.09per pick30cpaid-7.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked TheMongolz15c2,587$401 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.531,04044%458 W · 582 L-22.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-22.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5031…1ffbbacked Vitality77c2,535$1,940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$595.034163.4%26 W · 15 L+4.2wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+16.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x757f…311dbacked TheMongolz18c2,500$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4503754.1%20 W · 17 L-1.5wins-0.04per pick58cpaid-6.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xda63…b031backed TheMongolz17c2,368$403 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.587755.8%43 W · 34 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x967f…bcd0backed TheMongolz18c2,286$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$405.59450%2 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-22.7%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x35ea…99bcbacked TheMongolz13c2,139$274 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$274.4313657.4%78 W · 58 L+0.6wins0.00per pick57cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6fd…30f0backed TheMongolz17c2,111$358 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$358.328951.7%46 W · 43 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x25ac…3e47backed TheMongolz19c2,069$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4008564.7%55 W · 30 L+3.7wins+0.04per pick60cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f26…c83bbacked TheMongolz6c1,970$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118.220936.4%76 W · 133 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick35cpaid-6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked TheMongolz15c1,881$285 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$285.147738.4%183 W · 294 L-26.7wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-31.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x772d…45bbbacked TheMongolz3c1,877$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.662810.7%3 W · 25 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick14cpaid-80.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x391d…def1backed TheMongolz17c1,852$323 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$322.5620440.7%83 W · 121 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d8a…5201backed TheMongolz17c1,750$298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.555236.2%200 W · 352 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x50f9…c327backed TheMongolz29c1,734$497 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$496.7917761%108 W · 69 L+5.3wins+0.03per pick58cpaid+2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed TheMongolz18c1,714$305 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30536742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc939…6e0fbacked TheMongolz18c1,696$301 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$300.929044.4%40 W · 50 L+3.1wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+8.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe5c1…7487backed TheMongolz33c1,501$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50016732.9%55 W · 112 L-9.8wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-25.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8541…a367backed TheMongolz17c1,500$255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25528344.2%125 W · 158 L+17.1wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+14.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xe1f6…a17fbacked TheMongolz1c1,472$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.42933.3%3 W · 6 L+0.4wins+0.04per pick29cpaid-14.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe566…4943backed TheMongolz3c1,329$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.351650%8 W · 8 L+1.7wins+0.10per pick40cpaid-3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf5a7…63e7backed TheMongolz29c1,307$385 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$385.0310538.1%40 W · 65 L-8.5wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-23.5%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x6b22…ba7bbacked TheMongolz16c1,300$208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20810345.6%47 W · 56 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9b9b…44c3backed TheMongolz17c1,264$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$220.489540%38 W · 57 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1816…06e9backed Vitality79c1,200$952 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2481225%3 W · 9 L-3.3wins-0.28per pick53cpaid-64.4%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xcd07…5ce1backed Vitality75c1,177$880 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$297.11435.7%5 W · 9 L-0.5wins-0.04per pick39cpaid+84.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked TheMongolz17c1,171$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.457,92550.4%3,997 W · 3,928 L+179.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2.1%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0275…596dbacked TheMongolz18c1,141$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2053748.6%18 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-11.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8c70…1d71backed Vitality80c1,140$912 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2284965.3%32 W · 17 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick67cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5483…d3b6backed TheMongolz18c1,135$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001752.9%9 W · 8 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4925…a69abacked TheMongolz18c1,115$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.6310331.1%32 W · 71 L-0.3wins0.00per pick31cpaid+3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x82de…1f26backed TheMongolz18c1,111$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001346.2%6 W · 7 L+1.0wins+0.08per pick39cpaid-3.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x419f…2da0backed TheMongolz18c1,111$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2004339.5%17 W · 26 L-2.1wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8737…72babacked TheMongolz18c1,105$199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$198.841838.9%7 W · 11 L0.0wins0.00per pick39cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6c77…8cc7backed Vitality71c1,100$781 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3191100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.29per pick71cpaid+40.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8e3a…780cbacked TheMongolz8c1,098$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.614634.8%16 W · 30 L+1.3wins+0.03per pick32cpaid-2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb849…bce6backed TheMongolz11c1,090$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.238222%18 W · 64 L-4.4wins-0.05per pick27cpaid-49.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf95a…d895backed TheMongolz14c1,048$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1503447.1%16 W · 18 L+2.2wins+0.07per pick41cpaid-1.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7162…f2b3backed TheMongolz6c1,046$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591915.8%3 W · 16 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick17cpaid-22.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c72…43c4backed TheMongolz9c1,042$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.8110%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.09per pick9cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b64…eaf4backed Vitality78c1,019$795 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$224.0113446.3%62 W · 72 L-3.9wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-14.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbed2…d00bbacked Vitality77c1,000$770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2305750.9%29 W · 28 L+3.3wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+0.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed TheMongolz17c1,000$170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1705,83037.8%2,203 W · 3,627 L+79.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x197c…9b94backed TheMongolz1c1,000$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$121330.8%4 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.07per pick24cpaid-17.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x996c…b6ecbacked TheMongolz23c1,000$230 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23018860.1%113 W · 75 L+6.7wins+0.04per pick57cpaid-2.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf43d…bb69backed Vitality76c999.99$760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$240425%1 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.30per pick55cpaid-67.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x9cb0…3c1fbacked TheMongolz12c971.94$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$120.274346.5%20 W · 23 L+1.7wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+10.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed TheMongolz15c971.07$148 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$147.516,48042.9%2,782 W · 3,698 L-79.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed TheMongolz13c928.9$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.361,57929.7%469 W · 1,110 L-86.9wins-0.06per pick35cpaid-39.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x78fa…d5c3backed TheMongolz17c924.53$157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.1713043.8%57 W · 73 L+9.7wins+0.07per pick36cpaid+23.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xdfae…8b06backed TheMongolz17c882.35$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1501844.4%8 W · 10 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdf08…dea4backed TheMongolz12c874.95$109 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$108.513348.5%16 W · 17 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-3.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x24a5…b3bbbacked TheMongolz6c858.16$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.8629127.5%80 W · 211 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick26cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x970a…6b89backed TheMongolz4c840.17$37 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37.510%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.04per pick4cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbd36…2eefbacked TheMongolz24c839.65$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2003748.6%18 W · 19 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-18.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3402…9446backed TheMongolz18c833.33$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15010043%43 W · 57 L-1.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x944f…d441backed TheMongolz12c816$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.928148.1%39 W · 42 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-4.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x14c6…e59abacked TheMongolz18c811.4$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1502055%11 W · 9 L+2.4wins+0.12per pick43cpaid+3.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xa195…8c92backed TheMongolz12c800$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$969138.5%35 W · 56 L-7.0wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-22.9%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd5a1…0544backed TheMongolz17c800$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13616750.9%85 W · 82 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xce52…a1b3backed Vitality74c799.99$593 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$207250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-32.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xeffd…d3b3backed TheMongolz8c772.69$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.451250%6 W · 6 L+0.8wins+0.07per pick43cpaid+10.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 5 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.