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Lol · resolved market

LoL: Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion (BO5) - LCS Playoffs

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Team Liquidof Team Liquid, Shopify Rebellion
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$342,361
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$374,578

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $342,361 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

All 98 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xdfaf…d959backed Shopify Rebellion14c28,805$3,894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,893.566246.8%29 W · 33 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+6.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc44f…d49fbacked Shopify Rebellion11c26,939$2,963 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,963.2957246%263 W · 309 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-5.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Shopify Rebellion11c22,240$2,513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,513.41,09834.8%382 W · 716 L-17.1wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5213…6a35backed Shopify Rebellion10c9,500$950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9503033.3%10 W · 20 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick36cpaid-17.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x21b7…c861backed Shopify Rebellion9c9,019$812 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$811.6932234.5%111 W · 211 L+8.7wins+0.03per pick32cpaid+4.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd3d1…b0dabacked Shopify Rebellion1c7,242$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.914812.5%6 W · 42 L-2.7wins-0.06per pick18cpaid-9.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Shopify Rebellion11c7,000$760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7601,46828.9%424 W · 1,044 L+23.5wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeaac…d71dbacked Shopify Rebellion10c6,500$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6503732.4%12 W · 25 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-20.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Shopify Rebellion4c6,083$268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2681,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd2f4…cddbbacked Shopify Rebellion11c6,041$667 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$666.744052.5%21 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick58cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xdee3…6fe5backed Shopify Rebellion1c5,564$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.8428240.8%115 W · 167 L-16.1wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-20.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xcd9c…4da5backed Shopify Rebellion4c5,128$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001656.3%9 W · 7 L+1.0wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+7.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x653e…bbc0backed Shopify Rebellion10c5,118$503 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$503.141133.8%139 W · 272 L-28.7wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-23.1%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Shopify Rebellion9c4,333$410 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41075630%227 W · 529 L-21.4wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-15.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x24a5…b3bbbacked Shopify Rebellion2c3,454$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.24333.3%1 W · 2 L0.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid-52.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x97fd…3313backed Shopify Rebellion9c3,000$270 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27017133.9%58 W · 113 L-4.8wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-13.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked Shopify Rebellion10c2,961$290 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$289.690537.5%339 W · 566 L-18.8wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-7.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed Shopify Rebellion11c2,931$322 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$322.4654529.7%162 W · 383 L-34.7wins-0.06per pick36cpaid-18.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xcb1b…69f2backed Shopify Rebellion11c2,797$305 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$304.9124650%123 W · 123 L+4.9wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Shopify Rebellion10c2,560$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2562,36232%755 W · 1,607 L+42.0wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbbb6…a2fcbacked Shopify Rebellion2c2,516$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$609835.7%35 W · 63 L-0.3wins0.00per pick36cpaid-17.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x86c8…c867backed Shopify Rebellion9c2,230$201 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$200.74047.5%19 W · 21 L+4.7wins+0.12per pick36cpaid+6.4%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xdec9…b8abbacked Shopify Rebellion11c2,150$237 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$236.533153.2%176 W · 155 L+10.3wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+7.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa19d…3909backed Shopify Rebellion1c2,083$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251,52150.6%769 W · 752 L+3.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9b6d…dbbbbacked Shopify Rebellion11c2,000$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2202250%11 W · 11 L+0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xec54…e8c1backed Shopify Rebellion9c2,000$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1801,30838.6%505 W · 803 L-64.8wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-11.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x048f…9992backed Shopify Rebellion1c2,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205920%0 W · 592 L-7.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c29…8c43backed Shopify Rebellion4c1,854$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$70425%1 W · 3 L+0.4wins+0.09per pick16cpaid+56.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x13c7…11d9backed Shopify Rebellion11c1,849$203 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$203.4371249.2%350 W · 362 L+14.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x07fa…f5cdbacked Shopify Rebellion11c1,800$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19817339.3%68 W · 105 L+6.9wins+0.04per pick35cpaid+7.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x79cb…331ebacked Shopify Rebellion2c1,680$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.941140%0 W · 114 L-5.4wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x412f…30fabacked Shopify Rebellion10c1,307$131 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$130.734647.8%22 W · 24 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5c18…2f76backed Shopify Rebellion7c1,162$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84.9729038.6%112 W · 178 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-5.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x12dc…9832backed Shopify Rebellion1c1,136$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.039341.9%39 W · 54 L+3.2wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+10.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4bba…cf14backed Shopify Rebellion10c1,133$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.3423938.1%91 W · 148 L-16.1wins-0.07per pick45cpaid-21.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x216a…9d1dbacked Shopify Rebellion9c1,114$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.8930%0 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.16per pick16cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8b63…bdd3backed Shopify Rebellion2c1,109$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.630%0 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.11per pick11cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb1b8…9d1fbacked Shopify Rebellion3c1,099$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32.9845937%170 W · 289 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick38cpaid+13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x589a…8dc5backed Shopify Rebellion9c1,087$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.8116737.7%63 W · 104 L-9.5wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-18.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe56b…2c03backed Shopify Rebellion11c1,045$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11510938.5%42 W · 67 L-2.7wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-12.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdbbb…3df5backed Shopify Rebellion11c1,000$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11030151.5%155 W · 146 L+11.3wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+5.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1cb5…6be6backed Shopify Rebellion4c999.99$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4517345.7%79 W · 94 L+8.1wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+18.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x677f…1228backed Shopify Rebellion8c999.99$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$807038.6%27 W · 43 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-10.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Shopify Rebellion7c946.03$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.222,20233.3%733 W · 1,469 L-72.4wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-21.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc754…b388backed Shopify Rebellion11c871.21$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1002737%10 W · 17 L-1.9wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-20.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x30da…a11dbacked Shopify Rebellion12c833.33$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1003141.9%13 W · 18 L+2.2wins+0.07per pick35cpaid+32.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x41e2…3ad5backed Shopify Rebellion3c827.61$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.594114.6%6 W · 35 L-1.3wins-0.03per pick18cpaid-22.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc666…8d00backed Shopify Rebellion8c819.99$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.642251.7%218 W · 204 L+6.5wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked Shopify Rebellion2c755.2$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.831,29545.1%584 W · 711 L+49.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid-10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf060…b07abacked Shopify Rebellion12c698.26$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.7911127.9%31 W · 80 L-11.1wins-0.10per pick38cpaid-43.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x72be…c534backed Shopify Rebellion11c636.36$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$701,11435%390 W · 724 L+14.3wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x65f7…86ddbacked Shopify Rebellion13c614$80 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79.823333.3%11 W · 22 L-2.4wins-0.07per pick41cpaid-8.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x912d…794fbacked Shopify Rebellion2c608.11$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.986241.9%26 W · 36 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-23.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe1e7…8a71backed Shopify Rebellion10c600$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6047933.6%161 W · 318 L-10.7wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x21ff…0d71backed Shopify Rebellion9c586.5$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.3824643.1%106 W · 140 L-8.8wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-17.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xd33a…1fe2backed Shopify Rebellion9c569.67$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.3812340.7%50 W · 73 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf709…7697backed Shopify Rebellion9c555.56$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$506518.5%12 W · 53 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick22cpaid-18%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x09ce…af35backed Shopify Rebellion9c528.67$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.0932755.7%182 W · 145 L+17.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid-4.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xdc8f…d0e4backed Shopify Rebellion8c526.31$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42.18618.6%16 W · 70 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick20cpaid-20.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x87e8…5e6ebacked Shopify Rebellion11c510$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.15862.1%36 W · 22 L+2.8wins+0.05per pick57cpaid+3.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x4967…4292backed Shopify Rebellion9c500$45 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4530231.1%94 W · 208 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick30cpaid-12.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1fab…f47bbacked Shopify Rebellion10c500$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50728.6%2 W · 5 L0.0wins+0.01per pick28cpaid-23.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa664…f849backed Shopify Rebellion13c500$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$658922.5%20 W · 69 L-6.9wins-0.08per pick30cpaid-36.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked Shopify Rebellion6c417.2$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.1649841.6%207 W · 291 L-15.6wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-33.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbf69…4fa2backed Shopify Rebellion10c400$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4076028.9%220 W · 540 L-0.8wins0.00per pick29cpaid+2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe8c2…45b2backed Shopify Rebellion9c399$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.6131244.6%139 W · 173 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-14.6%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x90d4…2deebacked Shopify Rebellion8c382.93$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.636811.8%8 W · 60 L-5.3wins-0.08per pick20cpaid-54.7%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xa9c4…7433backed Shopify Rebellion10c382.16$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.223531.4%11 W · 24 L-2.8wins-0.08per pick39cpaid-26.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x0094…eea5backed Shopify Rebellion4c380$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.250%0 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.06per pick6cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xaaa1…d5dabacked Shopify Rebellion10c350$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3523831.5%75 W · 163 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick30cpaid+10.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc754…4b1dbacked Shopify Rebellion11c349.32$38 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38.4324535.9%88 W · 157 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb57f…0c96backed Shopify Rebellion10c343.3$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34.3343839.7%174 W · 264 L-24.3wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-14.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd154…9c74backed Shopify Rebellion9c332.86$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$29.9648747%229 W · 258 L-1.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid-13.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked Shopify Rebellion6c329.57$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.3122245.9%102 W · 120 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-25.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x35e7…8331backed Shopify Rebellion10c314.92$31 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$31.479745.8%365 W · 432 L-0.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfc6b…d720backed Shopify Rebellion9c300$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2725151%128 W · 123 L+11.6wins+0.05per pick46cpaid+15.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xc20c…fdb5backed Shopify Rebellion13c294.98$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.688847.7%42 W · 46 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+21.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Shopify Rebellion6c290.15$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16.4346436.4%169 W · 295 L-24.1wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-39.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5a9c…fc2bbacked Shopify Rebellion9c277.78$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2525332%81 W · 172 L-9.7wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-20.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe26b…a9ecbacked Shopify Rebellion4c269.16$12 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11.852049.2%256 W · 264 L+11.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb891…969bbacked Shopify Rebellion9c260$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.41,44713.3%192 W · 1,255 L-109.5wins-0.08per pick21cpaid-35.5%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xae69…6e71backed Shopify Rebellion9c250$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.511521.7%25 W · 90 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick24cpaid+3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xedf7…4003backed Shopify Rebellion15c240$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3674637.9%283 W · 463 L+6.9wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8c7c…1439backed Shopify Rebellion11c211.11$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.223432.4%11 W · 23 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick36cpaid-19.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x4572…47e7backed Shopify Rebellion8c200$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1621953.4%117 W · 102 L+14.5wins+0.07per pick47cpaid+13.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Shopify Rebellion7c185$13 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12.752,90538.5%1,119 W · 1,786 L-118.5wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-27.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7468…3d24backed Shopify Rebellion9c168$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.127741.6%32 W · 45 L0.0wins0.00per pick42cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xadf7…d90fbacked Shopify Rebellion9c166.67$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$152623.1%6 W · 20 L-0.6wins-0.02per pick25cpaid-31.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8df7…36c4backed Shopify Rebellion10c156.67$16 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.672245.5%10 W · 12 L+0.6wins+0.03per pick43cpaid-13.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x58e3…c540backed Shopify Rebellion10c153$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15.315146.4%70 W · 81 L+8.0wins+0.05per pick41cpaid-0.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x60d9…fc99backed Shopify Rebellion11c136.36$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1510%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.11per pick11cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8a38…d420backed Shopify Rebellion11c135.62$15 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14.923336.4%12 W · 21 L-2.6wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-30.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4c9d…0bffbacked Shopify Rebellion8c125$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1022532.4%73 W · 152 L+4.0wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+8.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3aba…debfbacked Shopify Rebellion9c113.33$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.26425%16 W · 48 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick23cpaid-11.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3256…830cbacked Shopify Rebellion10c110$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.451747.1%8 W · 9 L+0.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5f43…3a74backed Shopify Rebellion10c100$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1058437.2%217 W · 367 L-7.9wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-7.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6926…ce5dbacked Shopify Rebellion11c100$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112317.4%4 W · 19 L-4.2wins-0.18per pick35cpaid-65.2%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x2339…39b5backed Shopify Rebellion14c75$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.510%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.14per pick14cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 10 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.