NBA · resolved market
Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 234.5
https://tailmypicks.com/m/0xf4e283c2ef5df6ea28e2b5bc79851c5dac756aa6cfe459eb356242f592fee742
Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Overof Over, Under
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $84,032
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $99,821
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $84,032 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 79 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in NBA | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x16b2…a881backed Over | 49c | 26,510$13,003 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$13,507.22 | 2,298 | 51.7%1,188 W · 1,110 L | +65.4wins | +0.03per pick | 49cpaid | +5.9%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb3a1…3529backed Over | 49c | 15,060$7,329 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$7,730.19 | 54 | 44.4%24 W · 30 L | -2.2wins | -0.04per pick | 49cpaid | -5.3%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xa2cc…0cbcbacked Under | 51c | 14,000$7,140 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$7,139.99 | 155 | 45.8%71 W · 84 L | -5.7wins | -0.04per pick | 49cpaid | -9.1%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x9e2f…ec47backed Under | 51c | 10,000$5,100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$5,100 | 747 | 48.5%362 W · 385 L | +8.6wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | +2.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xee61…debfbacked Over | 47c | 9,908$4,619 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$5,289.2 | 9,722 | 49.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L | -2.8wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -0.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xe405…bf91backed Under | 54c | 8,500$4,590 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$4,589.98 | 484 | 48.8%236 W · 248 L | -5.1wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -0.3%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x4f5b…d411backed Under | 51c | 4,000$2,040 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$2,040 | 59 | 59.3%35 W · 24 L | -4.1wins | -0.07per pick | 66cpaid | -12.4%equal weight | 45-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6a32…0086backed Under | 52c | 3,780$1,966 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,965.78 | 1,332 | 51.2%682 W · 650 L | +7.9wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xd48a…6e90backed Under | 53c | 3,021$1,601 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,601 | 1,910 | 54.3%1,038 W · 872 L | +25.2wins | +0.01per pick | 53cpaid | +1.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8717…32c2backed Under | 53c | 2,000$1,060 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,060 | 415 | 53.3%221 W · 194 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 53cpaid | +0.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa6a8…5009backed Under | 51c | 1,764$900 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$899.67 | 3,995 | 48.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L | +101.9wins | +0.03per pick | 46cpaid | -1.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5cce…5c2fbacked Under | 53c | 1,521$806 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$806 | 162 | 54.3%88 W · 74 L | +7.1wins | +0.04per pick | 50cpaid | +8.8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x84f7…ade1backed Over | 48c | 1,349$648 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$701.48 | 1,715 | 44.5%764 W · 951 L | -0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 45cpaid | +3.7%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc2c7…bd87backed Under | 53c | 1,000$525 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$525 | 59 | 52.5%31 W · 28 L | -1.9wins | -0.03per pick | 56cpaid | -8.8%equal weight | 47-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9285…749ebacked Over | 50c | 799.99$400 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$400 | 55 | 41.8%23 W · 32 L | +2.6wins | +0.05per pick | 37cpaid | +19.9%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x67c3…5cc8backed Under | 53c | 754.72$400 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$400 | 111 | 55%61 W · 50 L | -2.8wins | -0.03per pick | 57cpaid | +0.2%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xd6a3…9489backed Under | 48c | 599.64$288 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$287.85 | 4,878 | 48%2,341 W · 2,537 L | +61.9wins | +0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -1%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe733…0accbacked Over | 48c | 412.41$200 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$212.41 | 8 | 75%6 W · 2 L | +2.1wins | +0.26per pick | 49cpaid | +54%equal weight | 57+0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xd397…5052backed Under | 49c | 408.16$200 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$200 | 271 | 61.3%166 W · 105 L | +4.3wins | +0.02per pick | 60cpaid | +2.3%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x478a…2deabacked Under | 53c | 400$212 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$212 | 90 | 50%45 W · 45 L | -3.9wins | -0.04per pick | 54cpaid | -10.8%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7b23…e20fbacked Under | 52c | 400$208 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$208 | 499 | 38.9%194 W · 305 L | -23.4wins | -0.05per pick | 44cpaid | -16.8%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x92cf…8b35backed Under | 53c | 377.36$200 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$200 | 1,110 | 52%577 W · 533 L | +8.0wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | +0.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe0e9…5112backed Under | 52c | 300$156 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$156 | 217 | 49.3%107 W · 110 L | -4.6wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -4.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xaf9e…239fbacked Under | 51c | 300$152 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$152 | 12 | 66.7%8 W · 4 L | +0.8wins | +0.07per pick | 60cpaid | +13.6%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x75e1…3ff3backed Under | 53c | 283.11$150 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$150.05 | 88 | 53.4%47 W · 41 L | -1.3wins | -0.02per pick | 55cpaid | -3.8%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xea22…747abacked Over | 10c | 217.53$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$195.78 | 679 | 21.4%145 W · 534 L | +32.4wins | +0.05per pick | 17cpaid | +33.9%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xc0e5…293bbacked Under | 53c | 217$115 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$115.01 | 36 | 55.6%20 W · 16 L | -2.1wins | -0.06per pick | 62cpaid | -8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xf332…3c89backed Under | 52c | 200$104 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$104 | 656 | 49.2%323 W · 333 L | +9.5wins | +0.01per pick | 48cpaid | +3.2%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe48c…163abacked Over | 48c | 197.92$95 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$102.92 | 84 | 46.4%39 W · 45 L | +1.2wins | +0.01per pick | 45cpaid | +8.3%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x740b…1d47backed Under | 53c | 188.68$100 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$100 | 94 | 58.5%55 W · 39 L | +4.3wins | +0.05per pick | 54cpaid | +11.7%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa5dc…ec43backed Under | 53c | 183$97 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$96.99 | 690 | 49.4%341 W · 349 L | -30.0wins | -0.04per pick | 54cpaid | -9.4%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x38dd…c20abacked Under | 51c | 150$77 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$76.5 | 336 | 50.6%170 W · 166 L | +5.3wins | +0.02per pick | 49cpaid | +4%equal weight | 52+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa8a0…f967backed Under | 55c | 150$83 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$82.5 | 92 | 35.9%33 W · 59 L | -4.1wins | -0.04per pick | 40cpaid | -0.1%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x15a3…718ebacked Over | 49c | 150$74 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$76.5 | 113 | 51.3%58 W · 55 L | +0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 51cpaid | +0.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4556…2b35backed Under | 52c | 150$78 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$78 | 129 | 52.7%68 W · 61 L | +2.4wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | +3.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x87d5…fe30backed Under | 52c | 144.75$75 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$75.27 | 42 | 35.7%15 W · 27 L | -6.0wins | -0.14per pick | 50cpaid | -32.7%equal weight | 40-0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x3c9b…a556backed Under | 53c | 134.25$71 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$71.15 | 229 | 53.7%123 W · 106 L | +6.8wins | +0.03per pick | 51cpaid | +6.5%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5b1c…2a3ebacked Under | 25c | 122.74$30 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$30.2 | 304 | 54.9%167 W · 137 L | +16.3wins | +0.05per pick | 50cpaid | +12%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xd473…3febbacked Under | 46c | 109.98$51 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$50.59 | 249 | 55.8%139 W · 110 L | +0.7wins | 0.00per pick | 56cpaid | +1.4%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6bea…5d50backed Over | 48c | 105$51 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$54.26 | 500 | 47.2%236 W · 264 L | -1.0wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -3.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xba26…23c9backed Under | 51c | 103.47$53 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$52.77 | 2,796 | 50.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L | +27.9wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf247…e269backed Over | 49c | 102.04$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.04 | 247 | 31.2%77 W · 170 L | +11.8wins | +0.05per pick | 26cpaid | +3.2%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xea7f…85d5backed Over | 49c | 102.04$50 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$52.04 | 10 | 40%4 W · 6 L | +0.8wins | +0.08per pick | 32cpaid | -12.9%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xb568…14d4backed Over | 51c | 100$51 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$49 | 277 | 47.7%132 W · 145 L | -20.4wins | -0.07per pick | 55cpaid | -17.5%equal weight | 42-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xb153…d8b5backed Under | 51c | 100$51 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$51 | 73 | 46.6%34 W · 39 L | -1.8wins | -0.03per pick | 49cpaid | -6.2%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x4bb2…3a3fbacked Over | 55c | 100$55 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$45 | 19 | 52.6%10 W · 9 L | -0.9wins | -0.05per pick | 58cpaid | -6.3%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x7f83…a491backed Under | 47c | 100$47 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$47 | 129 | 47.3%61 W · 68 L | +12.3wins | +0.10per pick | 38cpaid | +19.4%equal weight | 59+0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x1460…d60bbacked Under | 53c | 94.34$50 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$50 | 133 | 33.8%45 W · 88 L | +0.4wins | 0.00per pick | 34cpaid | +6.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xd549…296dbacked Under | 53c | 81.13$43 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$43 | 14 | 42.9%6 W · 8 L | -1.1wins | -0.08per pick | 50cpaid | -15.1%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xb0cb…85babacked Over | 47c | 81.13$38 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$43 | 522 | 42.7%223 W · 299 L | -1.3wins | 0.00per pick | 43cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xb53c…c76ebacked Under | 50c | 80$40 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$40 | 487 | 40.7%198 W · 289 L | -13.0wins | -0.03per pick | 43cpaid | -11%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x6f32…97c2backed Over | 50c | 80$40 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$40 | 28 | 35.7%10 W · 18 L | -2.1wins | -0.07per pick | 43cpaid | -26.7%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xdc1d…ff79backed Under | 52c | 75$39 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$39 | 56 | 46.4%26 W · 30 L | -2.4wins | -0.04per pick | 51cpaid | -9.3%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xa46d…59c4backed Over | 48c | 72.92$35 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$37.92 | 121 | 49.6%60 W · 61 L | +2.9wins | +0.02per pick | 47cpaid | +5.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x204f…5e14backed Under | 48c | 61.02$30 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.59 | 8,988 | 47.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L | +96.4wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -5.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb9a7…add9backed Under | 53c | 55$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.15 | 20 | 40%8 W · 12 L | -0.6wins | -0.03per pick | 43cpaid | -14.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa7f2…9b10backed Under | 54c | 50$27 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$27 | 79 | 53.2%42 W · 37 L | -1.6wins | -0.02per pick | 55cpaid | -6.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6611…17e7backed Under | 52c | 50$26 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$26 | 90 | 48.9%44 W · 46 L | -1.7wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -4.3%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xe98b…d3bebacked Under | 52c | 48.08$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25 | 115 | 53%61 W · 54 L | +2.6wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xcd00…7a45backed Under | 53c | 47.17$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25 | 380 | 50.8%193 W · 187 L | +3.5wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | +1.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x77ff…4ddebacked Under | 53c | 47.17$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$25 | 21 | 61.9%13 W · 8 L | +1.3wins | +0.06per pick | 56cpaid | +2.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xf68a…5b1bbacked Over | 47c | 47.17$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$25 | 2,153 | 51.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L | +76.7wins | +0.04per pick | 48cpaid | +6.9%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x9f34…1a46backed Over | 49c | 40.82$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.82 | 20 | 45%9 W · 11 L | -1.4wins | -0.07per pick | 52cpaid | -15.6%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xca15…0d5ebacked Under | 49c | 40.82$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 7 | 42.9%3 W · 4 L | -0.5wins | -0.07per pick | 50cpaid | -9.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xae6f…afc1backed Over | 49c | 40.82$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.82 | 6 | 33.3%2 W · 4 L | -1.9wins | -0.32per pick | 66cpaid | -44.6%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x819b…c28abacked Over | 49c | 40.82$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20.82 | 7 | 100%7 W · 0 L | +3.5wins | +0.49per pick | 51cpaid | +106.3%equal weight | 62+0.11 edge/pick |
| 0x1c83…6f40backed Over | 50c | 40$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$20 | 574 | 44.1%253 W · 321 L | -20.2wins | -0.04per pick | 48cpaid | -9.9%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5c80…9564backed Under | 53c | 37.74$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20 | 121 | 59.5%72 W · 49 L | -0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 60cpaid | +1.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4312…4df9backed Under | 52c | 34.62$18 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$18 | 3 | 0%0 W · 3 L | -1.6wins | -0.52per pick | 52cpaid | -100%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x827a…8a2bbacked Under | 51c | 33.88$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$17.28 | 220 | 53.6%118 W · 102 L | +5.6wins | +0.03per pick | 51cpaid | +6.8%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5a30…c241backed Over | 49c | 33.88$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$17.28 | 6 | 50%3 W · 3 L | 0.0wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -1.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xc9ce…77eabacked Under | 42c | 31.81$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.36 | 64 | 48.4%31 W · 33 L | -0.4wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -4.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x49b6…6fd5backed Under | 53c | 28.3$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15 | 79 | 59.5%47 W · 32 L | +2.7wins | +0.03per pick | 56cpaid | +6.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x03ed…c077backed Over | 48c | 27.88$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$14.5 | 203 | 56.7%115 W · 88 L | -0.3wins | 0.00per pick | 57cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Over | 52c | 25.38$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.18 | 1,758 | 48.7%856 W · 902 L | +28.3wins | +0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -1.2%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5b74…b58fbacked Under | 54c | 25$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.5 | 166 | 69.9%116 W · 50 L | +2.3wins | +0.01per pick | 68cpaid | +2.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x2eeb…6c86backed Under | 53c | 24.7$13 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.09 | 5 | 80%4 W · 1 L | +0.8wins | +0.16per pick | 64cpaid | +22.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xeabf…97e5backed Under | 53c | 20$11 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.6 | 144 | 52.1%75 W · 69 L | -4.3wins | -0.03per pick | 55cpaid | -9.1%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x187b…f545backed Over | 50c | 20$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10 | 164 | 47.6%78 W · 86 L | -0.7wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -1.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 18 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 234.5this page
- Spread: Knicks (-2.5)Knicks won
- Spread: Knicks (-3.5)Knicks won
- Spurs vs. KnicksKnicks won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H MoneylineSpurs won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 110.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 112.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 113.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 115.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 117.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: 1H O/U 119.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 227.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 228.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 229.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 230.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 231.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 232.5Over won
- Spurs vs. Knicks: O/U 233.5Over won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.