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Valorant · resolved market

Valorant: Sentinels vs Cloud9 (BO3) - VCT Americas Stage 2 Group Omega

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Sentinelsof Sentinels, Cloud9
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Valorantevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$795,146
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$811,668

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $795,146 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 434 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Valorant is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Valorant
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xcd30…f316backed Cloud943c240,192$102,338 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102,337.755429.6%16 W · 38 L-9.2wins-0.17per pick47cpaid-42%equal weight37-0.12 edge/pick
0x8660…93edbacked Cloud942c59,080$24,676 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,676.0717948.6%87 W · 92 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+7.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xba38…e406backed Sentinels58c40,165$23,491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,673.7454751.2%280 W · 267 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa804…2a75backed Sentinels60c30,526$18,319 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,207.432766.7%18 W · 9 L+4.5wins+0.17per pick50cpaid+40%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Sentinels56c27,270$15,321 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,948.8419046.3%88 W · 102 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+26.6%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x969a…59ddbacked Sentinels56c23,000$12,765 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,235450%2 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Sentinels56c22,201$12,413 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,787.8233153.5%177 W · 154 L-0.5wins0.00per pick54cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb29f…45b5backed Sentinels55c20,003$11,004 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,998.653956.4%22 W · 17 L+2.6wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+15.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3833…33d1backed Sentinels62c19,617$12,163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,454.5610455.8%58 W · 46 L+1.3wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf070…ac55backed Sentinels61c16,400$10,004 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,395.9924145.2%109 W · 132 L-11.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-10%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4cc3…7552backed Sentinels46c15,529$7,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,378.541100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.54per pick46cpaid+117.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x30c7…ac3bbacked Sentinels58c15,000$8,700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,30028955.7%161 W · 128 L+10.5wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+8.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xd8ff…473dbacked Sentinels55c13,652$7,502 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,149.92742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.3wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-17.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Cloud941c13,052$5,325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,325.1840945.7%187 W · 222 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed Cloud952c10,623$5,565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,565.1852155.5%289 W · 232 L-11.1wins-0.02per pick58cpaid-7.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0ea6…180dbacked Sentinels58c7,650$4,451 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,199.52330.4%7 W · 16 L-3.5wins-0.15per pick46cpaid-35.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x01e6…e7e0backed Sentinels58c7,035$4,079 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,956.11376.9%10 W · 3 L+2.4wins+0.19per pick58cpaid+23.6%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x880b…c98bbacked Cloud958c6,742$3,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,920.2926650.8%135 W · 131 L+7.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+4.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8a80…11c5backed Cloud937c6,325$2,353 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,353.3133838.5%130 W · 208 L-21.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-25.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Sentinels57c6,037$3,423 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,613.2822346.6%104 W · 119 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2f63…f247backed Cloud914c5,555$778 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$777.75151%26 W · 25 L+3.0wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+23.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xfe97…361ebacked Sentinels71c4,838$3,424 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,4143161.3%19 W · 12 L-2.4wins-0.08per pick69cpaid-14.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Sentinels37c4,412$1,620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,791.5732462.7%203 W · 121 L+31.7wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+10%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x22ae…920bbacked Sentinels56c4,000$2,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,760933.3%3 W · 6 L-1.0wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-32.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked Cloud950c3,846$1,937 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,936.7968458.3%399 W · 285 L+56.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+6.2%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x10b0…38cebacked Cloud945c3,831$1,724 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,723.8710%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.45per pick45cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Sentinels25c3,561$877 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,683.761,35839%530 W · 828 L-57.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-17%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x21b7…c861backed Cloud939c3,500$1,365 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,3653243.8%14 W · 18 L+1.9wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+5.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x5d5a…4289backed Sentinels58c3,445$1,999 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,446.3111747%55 W · 62 L-5.3wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfdc0…4b85backed Sentinels56c3,316$1,861 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,454.9993148.1%448 W · 483 L-11.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-8.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6304…e570backed Cloud946c3,061$1,408 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,408.124740.4%19 W · 28 L-4.5wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-17.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Sentinels71c2,984$2,104 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$879.4150944.6%227 W · 282 L-9.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-18.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x733d…1ae7backed Sentinels56c2,923$1,637 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,285.918100%8 W · 0 L+3.8wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+92.1%equal weight63+0.11 edge/pick
0x633e…d305backed Cloud951c2,788$1,425 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,425.098960.7%54 W · 35 L+7.6wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+23.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xc69b…2076backed Cloud937c2,639$968 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$967.64932.7%16 W · 33 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick37cpaid-30.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4980…5709backed Sentinels45c2,550$1,144 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,406.5232245.7%147 W · 175 L+52.2wins+0.16per pick29cpaid+40.7%equal weight67+0.15 edge/pick
0x60ec…f7b0backed Sentinels57c2,546$1,447 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,098.4956551.2%289 W · 276 L+6.5wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x18a4…3a31backed Cloud941c2,444$997 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$997.0615147%71 W · 80 L-4.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-18.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Sentinels57c2,393$1,358 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,034.4344342%186 W · 257 L-22.6wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-15.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xefbc…b344backed Sentinels59c2,388$1,417 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$971.7616547.9%79 W · 86 L-0.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid-6.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0bc8…adf7backed Sentinels57c2,349$1,347 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,001.941346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.4wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8bc1…c168backed Sentinels54c2,210$1,193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,016.64100%4 W · 0 L+1.4wins+0.36per pick64cpaid+63.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x7de3…d59bbacked Sentinels56c2,167$1,219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$947.916347.6%30 W · 33 L-1.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid+0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb758…4699backed Cloud937c2,142$799 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$798.748852.3%46 W · 42 L+3.1wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf7f0…912cbacked Sentinels59c2,048$1,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$839.677338.4%28 W · 45 L-10.0wins-0.14per pick52cpaid-25.5%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x9c4b…8a81backed Sentinels60c2,000$1,190 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$809.9962156.4%350 W · 271 L+13.0wins+0.02per pick54cpaid-0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5556…2759backed Sentinels59c1,982$1,177 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$804.8463955.6%355 W · 284 L+1.9wins0.00per pick55cpaid+0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3824…bccdbacked Sentinels58c1,982$1,157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$824.59714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.9wins-0.27per pick41cpaid-75.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf3ef…ca6bbacked Sentinels61c1,964$1,207 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$756.3894361.2%577 W · 366 L+58.2wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x224f…514abacked Sentinels58c1,960$1,146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$813.26759.7%40 W · 27 L+4.8wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+19.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Sentinels57c1,956$1,121 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$835.3951749.5%256 W · 261 L-2.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x94f8…e851backed Sentinels55c1,923$1,058 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$865.496256.5%35 W · 27 L-3.6wins-0.06per pick62cpaid-11.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x056b…303ebacked Sentinels55c1,818$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$818.181346.2%6 W · 7 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+33.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6239…1d79backed Sentinels60c1,670$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$669.695251.9%27 W · 25 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick53cpaid+4.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8adb…e4f6backed Sentinels54c1,660$894 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$766.352152.4%11 W · 10 L-1.0wins-0.05per pick57cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9ff4…d731backed Sentinels58c1,658$962 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$696.314856.3%27 W · 21 L+2.7wins+0.06per pick51cpaid+9.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Cloud928c1,649$454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$454.2757151%291 W · 280 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed Cloud943c1,628$697 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$697.181,74646.2%806 W · 940 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-15.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Sentinels62c1,606$991 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$614.7828743.2%124 W · 163 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Cloud926c1,576$406 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$405.641,27632.1%409 W · 867 L-67.5wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-28.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Cloud947c1,563$732 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.2565559.4%389 W · 266 L+50.5wins+0.08per pick52cpaid+6.7%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Cloud912c1,527$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.6488844.4%394 W · 494 L+0.5wins0.00per pick44cpaid-15%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8b55…d74bbacked Cloud939c1,500$585 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58586747.5%412 W · 455 L-2.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0e50…2609backed Sentinels59c1,379$814 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$565.524759.6%28 W · 19 L+3.8wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+14.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc34b…9296backed Sentinels58c1,379$800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$579.3125660.9%156 W · 100 L+22.5wins+0.09per pick52cpaid+16.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x9e3e…f882backed Sentinels63c1,352$856 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$495.4139646%182 W · 214 L-5.8wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-11.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x2da3…f258backed Cloud925c1,351$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.3149255.3%272 W · 220 L+23.7wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+5.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x28ba…b673backed Sentinels62c1,285$791 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$493.48560%3 W · 2 L+0.7wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+25.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf148…0b4fbacked Sentinels60c1,174$700 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$474.072737%10 W · 17 L-3.2wins-0.12per pick49cpaid-34.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x0e1b…ecafbacked Sentinels37c1,157$430 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$726.8868949.5%341 W · 348 L+15.4wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0844…bf81backed Sentinels56c1,136$634 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50227956.6%158 W · 121 L+9.1wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc28f…6193backed Cloud955c1,118$620 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6202454.2%13 W · 11 L-1.1wins-0.04per pick59cpaid-8.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfb07…e2ccbacked Sentinels57c1,109$627 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$481.6212550.4%63 W · 62 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x081e…f76ebacked Sentinels58c1,096$631 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$464.874845.8%22 W · 26 L-3.8wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-14.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa79a…d72abacked Sentinels49c1,091$538 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$552.7530652.3%160 W · 146 L-9.1wins-0.03per pick55cpaid-7.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0698…b91dbacked Cloud944c1,081$479 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$479.210346.6%48 W · 55 L+0.6wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba4f…b37bbacked Sentinels59c1,076$639 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$436.131060%6 W · 4 L+0.3wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+8.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x257e…ca61backed Cloud917c1,074$183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$182.8322344.4%99 W · 124 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-6.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5984…76ebbacked Cloud939c1,026$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40029733.3%99 W · 198 L0.0wins0.00per pick33cpaid+3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xba58…6d74backed Sentinels56c1,006$562 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$443.9625555.7%142 W · 113 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x21ff…0d71backed Sentinels58c1,000$580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$420.0825453.5%136 W · 118 L+4.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b62…d87fbacked Sentinels58c1,000$580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42026450%132 W · 132 L-0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcece…ffeebacked Sentinels52c1,000$520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4801540%6 W · 9 L-0.7wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-21.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3818…9797backed Cloud966c1,000$660 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6601662.5%10 W · 6 L-0.7wins-0.04per pick67cpaid-6.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0978…0d99backed Sentinels56c1,000$565 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4351735.3%6 W · 11 L-1.0wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-14.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xdaff…5cb1backed Cloud92c1,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20224.5%1 W · 21 L0.0wins0.00per pick5cpaid-92.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x653e…bbc0backed Sentinels57c985.85$562 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$423.921942.1%8 W · 11 L-1.0wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-7.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xec69…6fbabacked Cloud963c983.19$616 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$616.4535142.5%149 W · 202 L-14.6wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x1032…4243backed Sentinels56c978.5$548 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$430.54475%3 W · 1 L+0.8wins+0.20per pick55cpaid+38.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf1ee…519cbacked Sentinels46c969.51$443 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$526.631,24749.6%619 W · 628 L-2.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked Sentinels46c893.21$408 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$485.0721136.5%77 W · 134 L-15.0wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-38.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6cba…351cbacked Sentinels55c892.73$491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$401.731020%2 W · 8 L-2.9wins-0.29per pick49cpaid-66.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2714…960fbacked Sentinels58c862$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$362.044161%25 W · 16 L+3.1wins+0.07per pick54cpaid+18.8%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed Cloud951c854.78$433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$433.4553159.1%314 W · 217 L+41.6wins+0.08per pick51cpaid+7.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x61fa…7f62backed Sentinels55c850.12$468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$382.5618056.1%101 W · 79 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x40e3…5627backed Sentinels53c844.76$445 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$399.7619656.6%111 W · 85 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+2.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xddb6…b9b3backed Sentinels40c836.15$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$498.4774642.8%319 W · 427 L-27.7wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-18.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0df8…b67ebacked Cloud944c828$364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$364.12454.2%13 W · 11 L+1.6wins+0.07per pick48cpaid+27.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Sentinels58c824.06$476 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$348.0193049.4%459 W · 471 L-0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5592…aedebacked Sentinels62c810$502 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307.8580%4 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.20per pick60cpaid+37.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Valorant and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 10 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.