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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Pistons (-8.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Pelicansof Pistons, Pelicans
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$302,189
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$302,234

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $302,189 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 177 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xbf51…4a30backed Pelicans51c28,287$14,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,787.4176746.4%356 W · 411 L-16.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6e82…752cbacked Pelicans46c27,326$12,525 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,801.451,20455.3%666 W · 538 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+12.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Pistons54c25,853$14,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,032.263,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Pelicans52c23,392$12,164 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,228.232,15351.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L+76.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x4924…3782backed Pistons46c20,344$9,331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,331.4187451.5%450 W · 424 L+15.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Pistons50c15,055$7,490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,489.559,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e12…20e9backed Pistons53c13,421$7,113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,11329347.4%139 W · 154 L-5.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Pistons48c12,203$5,858 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,857.514,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Pelicans48c12,099$5,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,338.592,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xead0…f3babacked Pelicans54c10,000$5,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,6001,12448.6%546 W · 578 L+13.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+3.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Pelicans40c9,564$3,826 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,738.2726753.2%142 W · 125 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x66cc…7135backed Pistons58c7,616$4,419 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,419.3721250.5%107 W · 105 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Pelicans45c5,409$2,437 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,971.821,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Pistons43c5,054$2,195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,194.734,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x201c…58bfbacked Pelicans55c5,000$2,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,249.9918547%87 W · 98 L-4.9wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x91fd…1cdebacked Pelicans54c4,990$2,695 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,295.477348.5%375 W · 398 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc87…7ab6backed Pistons48c4,963$2,381 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,381.232,66648%1,279 W · 1,387 L-8.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Pistons51c4,411$2,228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,228.342,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xed2c…9597backed Pistons46c4,000$1,840 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,84037944.3%168 W · 211 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-8.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xecfc…cd05backed Pistons55c3,995$2,210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,210.031,16352.8%614 W · 549 L+22.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb5a9…eae3backed Pelicans45c3,856$1,735 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,120.8366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.17per pick49cpaid+32.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd0f4…1068backed Pelicans45c3,564$1,604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,960.2580%4 W · 1 L+1.5wins+0.30per pick50cpaid+59.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8753…85adbacked Pelicans55c3,520$1,919 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,601.464651.7%334 W · 312 L-14.9wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-4.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc715…5cd7backed Pistons55c3,486$1,917 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,917.3540%2 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.11per pick51cpaid-24.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x81ca…8a35backed Pistons55c3,382$1,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,860.1425%1 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.27per pick52cpaid-53.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7da4…9421backed Pelicans45c3,177$1,430 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,747.35450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.02per pick52cpaid+3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4440…f8fdbacked Pistons53c3,079$1,632 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,6329952.5%52 W · 47 L+1.9wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+4.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x65cc…909bbacked Pelicans45c3,024$1,361 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,663.2450%2 W · 2 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a1f…f6a8backed Pistons55c2,829$1,556 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,555.95560%3 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.11per pick49cpaid+27.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc49f…9e05backed Pistons46c2,800$1,288 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,28858449.7%290 W · 294 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x68dd…f0b2backed Pelicans54c2,800$1,512 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,28851350.1%257 W · 256 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9e70…14babacked Pistons52c2,693$1,388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,388.1316642.2%70 W · 96 L-11.2wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-13.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x99cb…f5ebbacked Pistons55c2,669$1,468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,467.95333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.15per pick49cpaid-22.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc617…a854backed Pistons45c2,667$1,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,20042648.1%205 W · 221 L-5.1wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Pistons49c2,659$1,303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,303.048,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0e26…954bbacked Pistons55c2,650$1,458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,457.5540%2 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-13.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0cb8…2ca2backed Pelicans45c2,571$1,157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,414.05475%3 W · 1 L+1.0wins+0.24per pick51cpaid+53.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe456…8ef3backed Pelicans45c2,511$1,130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,381.05450%2 W · 2 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid+3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5524…2e50backed Pistons55c2,478$1,363 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,362.9540%2 W · 3 L-0.5wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-23%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0638…d5a2backed Pistons55c2,359$1,297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,297.45425%1 W · 3 L-1.0wins-0.24per pick49cpaid-41.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xde04…fa37backed Pelicans72c2,261$1,622 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$639.242,16940.8%885 W · 1,284 L-8.7wins0.00per pick41cpaid-14.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf3d1…95d6backed Pelicans45c2,248$1,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,236.4366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.5wins+0.15per pick51cpaid+38.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb589…33d4backed Pistons9c2,222$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.9835326.6%94 W · 259 L+21.9wins+0.06per pick20cpaid+31%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Pistons55c2,171$1,199 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,198.622,75350.7%1,396 W · 1,357 L+47.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0c09…992bbacked Pistons55c2,132$1,173 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,172.6540%2 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-19.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Pistons46c2,090$959 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$959.175,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8230…5121backed Pistons28c2,032$569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$568.8520837.5%78 W · 130 L+38.2wins+0.18per pick19cpaid+115.2%equal weight68+0.16 edge/pick
0xb2e2…4e99backed Pelicans53c1,887$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$886.7916442.1%69 W · 95 L-7.6wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-10.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Pelicans55c1,818$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$818.181,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa965…3565backed Pistons48c1,500$720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7201,91145.4%868 W · 1,043 L+22.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2f28…6724backed Pelicans45c1,488$670 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$818.4450%2 W · 2 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb27…c56ebacked Pelicans41c1,474$604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$869.8487144.7%389 W · 482 L+14.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9438…3d6abacked Pelicans49c1,206$591 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$614.9438947.6%185 W · 204 L-6.9wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe216…7448backed Pelicans55c1,181$650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$531.5659140.8%241 W · 350 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Pistons46c1,169$538 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$537.746,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xba26…23c9backed Pelicans47c1,149$535 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$613.972,79650.3%1,405 W · 1,391 L+27.9wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Pistons48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4802,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xae8c…93cdbacked Pistons53c1,000$530 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5308347%39 W · 44 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x58bc…1fdbbacked Pistons1c1,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1020%0 W · 2 L0.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf2c2…4de7backed Pelicans41c999.99$410 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$59049142.6%209 W · 282 L+12.1wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8046…a845backed Pistons53c999.98$530 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$529.9911137.8%42 W · 69 L-14.2wins-0.13per pick51cpaid-28%equal weight38-0.10 edge/pick
0x1a10…8b30backed Pistons63c900$566 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$565.550239%196 W · 306 L-8.9wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Pistons50c888.28$445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$445.22,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf668…5c69backed Pistons60c772.7$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$459.8136359.8%217 W · 146 L+23.7wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+14.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Pistons43c726.92$314 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$314.191,47551.3%756 W · 719 L+35.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcc81…5df2backed Pistons54c700$378 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3785060%30 W · 20 L+3.3wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+11.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Pistons51c687.37$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$350.034,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x19a0…ac39backed Pistons46c600$278 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27814751%75 W · 72 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb8a0…35b6backed Pelicans47c560.26$263 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$297.5215348.4%74 W · 79 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+1.1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xf87b…180abacked Pistons51c551.91$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$280.1916539.4%65 W · 100 L-11.6wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-15%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe76f…39fcbacked Pelicans55c547.94$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$247.9412050%60 W · 60 L-5.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-8.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xc6e7…caa8backed Pistons4c500$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191587%11 W · 147 L+0.7wins0.00per pick7cpaid-8.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7c64…348fbacked Pistons2c500$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10234.3%1 W · 22 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick2cpaid+117.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa408…d831backed Pelicans42c488.17$205 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$283.1414647.9%70 W · 76 L+6.8wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xcf00…353fbacked Pistons55c454$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.719135.6%68 W · 123 L-9.3wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-15.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1624…bf63backed Pistons49c398.02$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.9383039.4%327 W · 503 L+6.3wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-20.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1733…1e15backed Pistons53c377.36$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,15747.9%554 W · 603 L-19.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc8b4…f05dbacked Pelicans46c376.71$173 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$203.4266853.4%357 W · 311 L+22.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+7.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x04b4…8d0bbacked Pelicans42c359.5$151 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$208.5157250%286 W · 286 L-0.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x682f…3265backed Pistons59c336.52$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,38954.9%762 W · 627 L+16.7wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x20d6…3856backed Pelicans54c301$163 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.4639842.5%169 W · 229 L-9.6wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-0.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xa61f…7993backed Pistons54c299.95$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$161.9761747.8%295 W · 322 L+4.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x936f…d171backed Pelicans45c277.71$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$152.7411753%62 W · 55 L+6.4wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+8.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x1db3…ada1backed Pistons54c268.96$144 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$144.3668940.2%277 W · 412 L-54.9wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-17.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Pistons51c240.95$123 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.613,12044.7%1,394 W · 1,726 L-7.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf2ba…4028backed Pelicans42c240.27$101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$139.274643.5%20 W · 26 L-3.0wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-18.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xc688…5987backed Pelicans47c218.39$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$115.7532346.4%150 W · 173 L-8.3wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-2.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8d1d…4773backed Pistons46c216.61$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.648744.8%39 W · 48 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1733…dc80backed Pistons47c213.15$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10019741.6%82 W · 115 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf593…9553backed Pistons47c211.45$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$99.991,26445.8%579 W · 685 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4865…904dbacked Pistons59c211.12$125 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$124.5624363.8%155 W · 88 L-6.0wins-0.02per pick66cpaid-3.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x86b1…c094backed Pelicans30c200$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14044821.4%96 W · 352 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick22cpaid-17.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1147…da78backed Pelicans54c190$103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$87.45558.2%32 W · 23 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x785f…e3d9backed Pistons54c189.19$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.341,02947.7%491 W · 538 L-13.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3fbc…9cf6backed Pistons53c188.68$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10036649.5%181 W · 185 L+0.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbc57…f5f4backed Pistons54c185.76$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10010850.9%55 W · 53 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-10.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xefde…6505backed Pelicans42c179.98$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104.391,56247.4%741 W · 821 L-6.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3078…0389backed Pelicans43c173.04$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98.632,90238.4%1,113 W · 1,789 L-51.9wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x325f…4511backed Pistons50c172$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$86.5811443%49 W · 65 L-1.6wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x20ec…fa43backed Pistons59c169.49$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10061056.1%342 W · 268 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 19 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.