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NBA · resolved market

Spread: 76ers (-2.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
76ersof 76ers, Timberwolves
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$410,584
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$468,689

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $410,584 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 216 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x8c5e…a114backed 76ers53c104,174$55,108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49,066.643554.3%19 W · 16 L+3.3wins+0.10per pick45cpaid+19.9%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xef27…381bbacked 76ers55c26,536$14,595 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,941.368452.4%44 W · 40 L+5.9wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+9.4%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x37c1…c53abacked Timberwolves48c26,074$12,576 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,576.241,91549.3%944 W · 971 L+19.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x178d…43fcbacked 76ers55c21,688$11,928 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,759.681442.9%6 W · 8 L+0.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid+19.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb6ae…4df8backed Timberwolves48c19,405$9,373 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,372.941,04447.5%496 W · 548 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Timberwolves9c17,278$1,621 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,620.81,28243.4%557 W · 725 L-51.2wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe5ef…9e7abacked 76ers51c13,322$6,794 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,527.7625248.4%122 W · 130 L+5.7wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7b10…acabbacked 76ers55c11,648$6,406 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,241.514953%79 W · 70 L+10.0wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+9.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Timberwolves47c11,538$5,384 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,384.169,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Timberwolves46c10,589$4,891 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,890.826,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb1df…cb3abacked Timberwolves47c10,000$4,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,70040%0 W · 4 L-1.9wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x4c01…1b91backed 76ers50c9,990$4,995 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,995.25580%4 W · 1 L+1.5wins+0.30per pick50cpaid+60.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Timberwolves48c9,073$4,362 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,361.532,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Timberwolves46c8,958$4,158 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,157.944,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbddf…c684backed 76ers53c8,090$4,260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,830.2272648.3%351 W · 375 L+30.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Timberwolves46c5,808$2,679 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,678.843,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xb1c4…743fbacked 76ers55c5,763$3,170 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,593.391100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.45per pick55cpaid+81.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8410…d59cbacked 76ers55c4,923$2,708 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,215.35333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.18per pick51cpaid-39.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf658…655ebacked 76ers56c4,907$2,725 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,182.1214556.6%82 W · 63 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x144e…eca0backed Timberwolves49c3,996$1,958 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,958.047451.4%38 W · 36 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Timberwolves46c3,460$1,583 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,583.431,90148.7%925 W · 976 L+6.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Timberwolves47c3,322$1,565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,565.154,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed 76ers54c3,187$1,721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,465.911,21248.3%586 W · 626 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b60…9c7ebacked Timberwolves46c3,025$1,392 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,391.5422643.8%99 W · 127 L-8.9wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-8.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7a7a…c0abbacked 76ers55c2,810$1,545 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,264.282445.8%11 W · 13 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked 76ers52c2,620$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,270.542,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Timberwolves50c2,504$1,257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,257.182,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0d13…92f3backed Timberwolves46c2,212$1,017 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,017.4970246.4%326 W · 376 L-20.4wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4b49…0397backed Timberwolves48c2,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96025641.4%106 W · 150 L-13.6wins-0.05per pick47cpaid-12.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x30a4…8441backed 76ers55c1,999$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$899.0832051.9%166 W · 154 L+10.5wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+11%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7760…21f0backed Timberwolves45c1,709$769 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$769.2546145.6%210 W · 251 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Timberwolves46c1,682$769 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$768.542,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x05b7…9f3abacked 76ers58c1,345$780 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$564.71922.2%2 W · 7 L-1.5wins-0.17per pick39cpaid-59.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xba12…6a47backed 76ers53c1,300$689 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$611955.6%5 W · 4 L+0.5wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+11.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x23c8…f293backed Timberwolves44c1,293$569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$568.8828643%123 W · 163 L-1.2wins0.00per pick43cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe843…0699backed 76ers47c1,268$601 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6676023.3%14 W · 46 L-5.9wins-0.10per pick33cpaid-27.6%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x27f7…44b0backed 76ers51c1,259$647 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$612.0737355%205 W · 168 L+8.4wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4946…4004backed 76ers55c1,238$681 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$557.2621957.1%125 W · 94 L+6.7wins+0.03per pick54cpaid+6.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x30d9…41c7backed 76ers55c1,238$681 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$557.263745.9%17 W · 20 L-2.7wins-0.07per pick53cpaid-14.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1ab2…8fdabacked Timberwolves43c1,206$519 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$518.5819745.2%89 W · 108 L-7.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0e40…cf85backed Timberwolves44c1,136$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.9916745.5%76 W · 91 L+0.2wins0.00per pick45cpaid+0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc463…9a2fbacked 76ers54c1,032$561 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$471.2431046.8%145 W · 165 L+1.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Timberwolves46c1,013$466 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$466.165,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeb22…808abacked Timberwolves49c1,000$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49095641.7%399 W · 557 L+1.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d10…940abacked 76ers55c973$535 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$437.8515753.5%84 W · 73 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x61e0…4b62backed 76ers51c970.6$495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$475.5952760%316 W · 211 L+9.8wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf592…9872backed 76ers56c869.29$487 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$382.4911651.7%60 W · 56 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+5.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x51bb…a919backed Timberwolves44c863.17$380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$379.797350.7%37 W · 36 L+4.7wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+10.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x64db…325bbacked 76ers49c822.04$403 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$419.021,25948.7%613 W · 646 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed 76ers55c806.88$445 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$362.341,08450%542 W · 542 L+2.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb097…0e61backed Timberwolves45c806.65$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$360.4712240.2%49 W · 73 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6292…d254backed Timberwolves51c776.48$396 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39620846.6%97 W · 111 L-9.6wins-0.05per pick51cpaid-8.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x86fb…03d4backed 76ers55c756.64$418 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$338.4590650.2%455 W · 451 L-0.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc249…8a61backed Timberwolves43c750$325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32579650.9%405 W · 391 L+63.2wins+0.08per pick43cpaid+21.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x8188…b171backed Timberwolves47c750$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3504938.8%19 W · 30 L-3.0wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-25.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x44f0…432cbacked Timberwolves44c723.35$318 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$318.2740146.9%188 W · 213 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xed45…3de8backed 76ers55c680.65$374 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$306.297454.1%40 W · 34 L+2.8wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+7.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5966…af5dbacked 76ers51c666.8$340 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$326.7331354.3%170 W · 143 L+4.8wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xafaf…1635backed Timberwolves53c652.02$343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$342.551,03647.6%493 W · 543 L+6.7wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9b66…336abacked Timberwolves50c600$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30027746.6%129 W · 148 L-6.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x49ec…ac1cbacked 76ers56c512.11$287 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$225.3324044.6%107 W · 133 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed 76ers55c500$276 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$223.754,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Timberwolves47c500$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2352,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf02f…1ed8backed Timberwolves45c489.04$220 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$220.371,43347.2%676 W · 757 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Timberwolves48c484.4$233 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$232.5166744.5%297 W · 370 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0dad…4855backed Timberwolves46c483.8$223 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$222.558951.7%46 W · 43 L-1.4wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-3.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xabb1…7ef7backed Timberwolves48c478.57$229 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$228.793441.2%14 W · 20 L-2.9wins-0.09per pick50cpaid-16.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x30db…44e1backed 76ers53c472.25$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.4934953%185 W · 164 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa6df…dda7backed 76ers54c421.17$227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$193.7424247.1%114 W · 128 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe647…2040backed 76ers56c391.16$219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$172.115354.7%29 W · 24 L+3.4wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+15.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf233…589dbacked 76ers56c391.16$219 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$172.112653.8%14 W · 12 L+1.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf879…820ebacked Timberwolves50c388$194 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19411833.9%40 W · 78 L-6.6wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-25.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6c1d…1f8fbacked Timberwolves48c386.93$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$185.6649249.8%245 W · 247 L-0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x42f2…fdb4backed 76ers51c380.63$194 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$186.5111558.3%67 W · 48 L+8.0wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+13.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xb00f…e0e9backed Timberwolves46c374.42$172 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$172.233141.9%13 W · 18 L-3.1wins-0.10per pick52cpaid-22.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x6239…c24fbacked Timberwolves53c371.18$196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$195.5195049.4%469 W · 481 L+10.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2ee7…4c1abacked 76ers55c364.09$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.814852.7%78 W · 70 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfce1…4f4cbacked 76ers55c360.26$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$162.1219550.8%99 W · 96 L-3.7wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-8.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x431c…12ecbacked 76ers55c353.82$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.223046.7%14 W · 16 L-2.1wins-0.07per pick54cpaid-13.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf2d9…0092backed 76ers55c353.81$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$159.2276250.4%384 W · 378 L+3.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xd81f…6b75backed Timberwolves50c350$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17544740.7%182 W · 265 L-27.5wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-9.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x3a51…b2b6backed 76ers56c348.07$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$153.1589853.1%477 W · 421 L+21.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2ecb…7645backed 76ers78c331.87$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$71.5631345.7%143 W · 170 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-4.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xce9d…3c05backed 76ers59c330.64$195 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$135.5695452.3%499 W · 455 L-17.4wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8900…a444backed 76ers55c329.04$181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$148.077751.9%40 W · 37 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-8.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Timberwolves50c317.92$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$160.283,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed 76ers55c300$166 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$134.462,40043.6%1,046 W · 1,354 L-82.9wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x67e6…86edbacked Timberwolves46c283.09$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.864844.8%290 W · 358 L-32.3wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-10.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xb03c…b352backed 76ers55c263.98$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1185341.5%22 W · 31 L-3.5wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-15.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7067…e41ebacked Timberwolves45c250.45$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112.71338.5%5 W · 8 L-1.4wins-0.11per pick49cpaid-23.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2160…bcb3backed 76ers55c245.3$135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$110.3930945.3%140 W · 169 L-0.7wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xba67…4727backed Timberwolves45c238.94$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.5256843.8%249 W · 319 L-25.1wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb870…5a8abacked Timberwolves54c218.51$118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11891846.2%424 W · 494 L+1.0wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc0fb…ec4fbacked 76ers55c198.14$109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$89.166860.3%41 W · 27 L+9.5wins+0.14per pick46cpaid+33.8%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x2cec…5326backed Timberwolves48c195.13$93 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.6968645.5%312 W · 374 L-22.9wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x0aaf…4637backed 76ers50c194$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$971931.6%6 W · 13 L-2.5wins-0.13per pick45cpaid-41.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x2db1…45e5backed Timberwolves50c194$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9724849.6%123 W · 125 L+0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5127…de1ebacked 76ers50c194$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9717944.1%79 W · 100 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-11.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x177a…c53cbacked Timberwolves50c194$97 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97425%1 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.26per pick51cpaid-51.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4980…57febacked 76ers50c193.03$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.5210245.1%46 W · 56 L-4.0wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 28 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.