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Fifa International · resolved market

Will Ecuador vs. Germany end in a draw?

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What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Noof Yes, No
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$3,596,429
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$3,322,233

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $3,596,429 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,610 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x0346…52a5backed No78c368,022$285,752 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$82,269.842,40737.7%908 W · 1,499 L-48.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-25.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6754…e3bcbacked No78c149,806$117,484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32,322.0415456.5%87 W · 67 L+5.6wins+0.04per pick53cpaid+9.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9703…69c2backed No79c146,381$115,969 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30,411.3929952.5%157 W · 142 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-1.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Yes24c134,089$32,455 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32,454.834,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Yes19c130,944$24,818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,817.882,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x32b4…8b21backed Yes21c108,491$22,547 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22,546.624441.8%102 W · 142 L-5.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-11.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Yes24c107,228$25,699 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,698.618,61429.2%2,518 W · 6,096 L-166.6wins-0.02per pick31cpaid-32.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9c68…247abacked Yes31c96,710$30,331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30,330.9230%0 W · 3 L-1.1wins-0.35per pick35cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed No79c83,947$66,449 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17,497.8474752.2%390 W · 357 L+2.4wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked No78c72,653$56,381 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,271.6931945.5%145 W · 174 L-0.8wins0.00per pick46cpaid-28.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2a69…d2f7backed Yes18c63,385$11,494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,494.13,99224.9%994 W · 2,998 L-47.0wins-0.01per pick26cpaid-19.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x50f0…5355backed Yes20c62,715$12,543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,542.963844.7%17 W · 21 L+3.2wins+0.08per pick36cpaid+19.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x6550…8451backed No79c60,441$47,849 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,591.5621738.7%84 W · 133 L-8.9wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Yes20c53,920$10,905 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,905.051,26247.5%600 W · 662 L-15.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x10ff…5088backed No62c50,729$31,229 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,500.0936939.6%146 W · 223 L-12.0wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-24.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xec8f…8df8backed No78c48,467$37,920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,547.6315746.5%73 W · 84 L+1.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9d12…7954backed Yes50c40,026$20,011 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20,010.824829.2%14 W · 34 L+1.4wins+0.03per pick26cpaid+15.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x76aa…eff9backed Yes15c38,652$5,814 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,813.6225753.3%137 W · 120 L+23.5wins+0.09per pick44cpaid+17.5%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xa38a…821dbacked No56c32,237$18,077 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,159.4649441.5%205 W · 289 L+27.7wins+0.06per pick36cpaid+13.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked No73c29,807$21,815 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,991.853,69636.9%1,364 W · 2,332 L-44.0wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-23.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Yes21c26,474$5,567 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,566.841,56043.8%684 W · 876 L-4.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xee4b…c2e4backed Yes47c25,487$11,855 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,854.86750.7%34 W · 33 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-10.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x09d2…26aebacked Yes40c24,813$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,0004129.3%12 W · 29 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+9.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Yes17c24,572$4,268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,268.331,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed No75c24,282$18,103 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,179.162,43929%707 W · 1,732 L-65.3wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x77fe…a351backed Yes15c24,116$3,568 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,567.5715127.8%42 W · 109 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-17%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x26d6…caccbacked No79c23,441$18,557 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,883.6233337.8%126 W · 207 L-12.7wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-40.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xf031…c80cbacked Yes21c20,085$4,298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,298.2733538.2%128 W · 207 L+9.7wins+0.03per pick35cpaid+14.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x119b…ac3ebacked Yes22c18,605$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,0008944.9%40 W · 49 L+3.3wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+1.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfe1c…436cbacked Yes22c18,100$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,0003818.4%7 W · 31 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick17cpaid+18.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8325…19ccbacked Yes26c17,639$4,566 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,566.4466846.7%312 W · 356 L+45.9wins+0.07per pick40cpaid-7.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x0cf6…0e3bbacked Yes20c17,200$3,454 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,453.5726534%90 W · 175 L+7.3wins+0.03per pick31cpaid-9.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Yes17c16,519$2,874 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,873.674,45737.2%1,657 W · 2,800 L+31.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7cbe…c4b7backed Yes22c15,751$3,490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,489.6388838.2%339 W · 549 L+37.2wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+9.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xac47…d234backed Yes18c15,094$2,762 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,762.221029%61 W · 149 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-7.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x67bb…b6efbacked Yes49c15,000$7,424 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,424.017550.7%38 W · 37 L-2.3wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-10%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed No80c14,748$11,742 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,005.2642043.1%181 W · 239 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-32.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x160b…4296backed Yes18c14,007$2,521 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,521.231,04443.7%456 W · 588 L+20.7wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+14.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x85bb…9adabacked Yes22c13,703$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,00032429.9%97 W · 227 L+10.4wins+0.03per pick27cpaid-6.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x122c…fbedbacked No76c13,659$10,409 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,249.731232.4%101 W · 211 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-25.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb014…a357backed Yes15c13,024$1,908 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,908.0915642.9%67 W · 89 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0563…f41cbacked Yes15c12,705$1,969 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,968.9915040%60 W · 90 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked No67c12,000$8,050 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,95058926.8%158 W · 431 L-30.5wins-0.05per pick32cpaid-44.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0380…073dbacked No80c10,840$8,671 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,168.8465651.7%339 W · 317 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a44…8985backed Yes18c10,798$1,975 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,9751631.3%5 W · 11 L+1.3wins+0.08per pick23cpaid+48.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x2bf0…728fbacked Yes13c10,732$1,424 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,424.015123.5%12 W · 39 L-3.3wins-0.06per pick30cpaid-24.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Yes24c10,462$2,546 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,545.7579231.1%246 W · 546 L-4.2wins-0.01per pick32cpaid-34.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4132…a5a5backed Yes9c10,308$932 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$932.4322846.1%105 W · 123 L-0.9wins0.00per pick46cpaid-7.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc7fb…e5fdbacked Yes24c10,000$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,40011256.3%63 W · 49 L+9.5wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+14.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x5964…776bbacked Yes20c10,000$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0009443.6%41 W · 53 L+5.5wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+3.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x87ec…138fbacked No78c9,629$7,508 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,120.1718851.1%96 W · 92 L+0.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-14.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1b47…d814backed Yes22c9,177$2,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,002.0856541.1%232 W · 333 L-9.4wins-0.02per pick43cpaid-11.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2ec2…aebbbacked Yes36c9,138$3,281 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,2815034%17 W · 33 L-1.6wins-0.03per pick37cpaid+6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8b9a…5f69backed Yes0c9,000$11 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111468.2%12 W · 134 L+8.4wins+0.06per pick2cpaid+90.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed No68c8,308$5,645 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,663.191,98532.5%645 W · 1,340 L-47.7wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked No76c8,236$6,271 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,964.7514132.6%46 W · 95 L-8.9wins-0.06per pick39cpaid-35.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xadbd…93dcbacked Yes18c8,092$1,473 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,472.751520%3 W · 12 L-0.6wins-0.04per pick24cpaid-64.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfd00…d1afbacked Yes19c7,984$1,493 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,492.9145528.4%129 W · 326 L-1.3wins0.00per pick29cpaid-25.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xacea…8b97backed Yes17c7,880$1,324 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,324.0515147%71 W · 80 L-7.7wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-13.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe504…600ebacked Yes19c7,857$1,527 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,527.4514231.7%45 W · 97 L-13.4wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-28.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x56ac…d77ebacked Yes20c7,605$1,506 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,505.7970244.6%313 W · 389 L+13.8wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+10.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x325f…4511backed No71c7,533$5,345 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,188.121,62732.1%523 W · 1,104 L+4.0wins0.00per pick32cpaid-19.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc88f…d893backed Yes31c7,308$2,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,30010932.1%35 W · 74 L-9.5wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-26.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x4543…72d1backed Yes13c7,247$950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9501758.8%10 W · 7 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+16.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Yes22c7,207$1,601 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,601.3993542.2%395 W · 540 L-27.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-17.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x999a…9a25backed No80c7,066$5,620 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,445.2124443%105 W · 139 L-5.2wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-29.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3cea…e48ebacked No75c6,616$4,985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,631.0724146.1%111 W · 130 L+8.9wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+16.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6db9…4ab5backed Yes29c6,586$1,884 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,884.4213122.1%29 W · 102 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick22cpaid-28.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x597e…cd70backed Yes14c6,582$930 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$929.999943.4%43 W · 56 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-10.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdaef…54e9backed Yes8c6,394$491 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$491.3618837.2%70 W · 118 L-6.6wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-15.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Yes23c6,231$1,433 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,433.2176048.7%370 W · 390 L-2.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid-8.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2106…4deabacked No80c6,200$4,955 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,244.8918843.6%82 W · 106 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x26f8…3452backed Yes50c6,000$3,024 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,023.974663%29 W · 17 L+7.1wins+0.15per pick48cpaid+22.2%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed No80c5,909$4,719 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,190.4424950.2%125 W · 124 L+5.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb17e…22bebacked Yes36c5,894$2,138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,137.7118543.8%81 W · 104 L-6.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-22.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa811…8717backed Yes19c5,879$1,143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,143.271947.4%9 W · 10 L+3.0wins+0.16per pick32cpaid+20.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xc23e…98a4backed Yes26c5,792$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,5004531.1%14 W · 31 L+0.1wins0.00per pick31cpaid-13.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9602…4d02backed No71c5,650$4,011 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,639.5131945.1%144 W · 175 L+1.0wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe37c…ef29backed Yes30c5,649$1,711 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,710.577254.2%39 W · 33 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-10.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9b7b…a88dbacked Yes32c5,635$1,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,8002733.3%9 W · 18 L-6.6wins-0.24per pick58cpaid-48.4%equal weight36-0.13 edge/pick
0x60ba…3c6cbacked No80c5,500$4,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,10047144.8%211 W · 260 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4e72…ffb9backed Yes17c5,470$948 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$947.6832639%127 W · 199 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick38cpaid-15.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0f34…7684backed Yes23c5,376$1,257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,257.0565835%230 W · 428 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick34cpaid-21.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe558…dcd2backed No78c5,346$4,175 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,170.7715843%68 W · 90 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-16.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd717…3b85backed Yes17c5,344$925 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$924.5636335.8%130 W · 233 L-4.9wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-17.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa9f5…937fbacked No78c5,319$4,129 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,189.512,53346.3%1,174 W · 1,359 L+12.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid-12.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed No57c5,286$3,032 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,254.2926949.1%132 W · 137 L+14.1wins+0.05per pick44cpaid+2.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfe77…8fe4backed Yes18c5,198$951 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$951.234540%18 W · 27 L-2.0wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-18.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x45e4…3c69backed Yes20c5,051$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0009649%47 W · 49 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xd865…96babacked Yes9c5,022$440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$439.689337.6%35 W · 58 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x36f8…b9f2backed Yes22c5,000$1,095 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,095825%2 W · 6 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick26cpaid+32.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x8d06…f79dbacked Yes20c5,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00012536.8%46 W · 79 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick34cpaid-3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb57e…ffe8backed Yes29c4,935$1,443 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,443.2124620.3%50 W · 196 L-21.8wins-0.09per pick29cpaid-44.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xacf8…e791backed Yes32c4,909$1,571 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,570.922035%7 W · 13 L+0.9wins+0.05per pick30cpaid-8.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xde76…7d17backed No79c4,800$3,806 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$993.65362.3%33 W · 20 L0.0wins0.00per pick62cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x511f…cbe1backed No77c4,696$3,604 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,092.3321958%127 W · 92 L+13.4wins+0.06per pick52cpaid+27.8%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x10a6…4d8bbacked Yes14c4,634$638 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$637.964446.4%299 W · 345 L-6.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf393…9b65backed Yes30c4,631$1,404 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,403.8510624.5%26 W · 80 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick28cpaid-32.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf29a…3122backed Yes19c4,565$850 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85016637.3%62 W · 104 L+7.6wins+0.05per pick33cpaid+6.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbec0…9bddbacked Yes23c4,492$1,048 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,048.3562633.9%212 W · 414 L-28.6wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-37.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 3 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.