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CS2 · resolved market

Counter-Strike: PARIVISION vs Wildcard (BO3) - PGL Bucharest Group Stage

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
PARIVISIONof PARIVISION, Wildcard
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
CS2every record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$651,348
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$663,331

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $651,348 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 308 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in CS2 is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in CS2
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x9cb9…32f2backed Wildcard11c86,616$9,397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,396.8630340.3%122 W · 181 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xc257…358ebacked Wildcard13c40,000$5,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,20039249%192 W · 200 L+0.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x16bc…decabacked Wildcard16c21,425$3,445 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,444.819229.2%56 W · 136 L-12.0wins-0.06per pick35cpaid-28.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xb7f5…c669backed Wildcard13c19,975$2,597 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,596.7267041.8%280 W · 390 L-5.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4999…2f9ebacked Wildcard14c13,781$1,924 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,923.5810%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.14per pick14cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x29b5…cc6cbacked Wildcard14c12,242$1,725 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,724.565,02855%2,763 W · 2,265 L+112.5wins+0.02per pick53cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x686f…ccb1backed Wildcard9c10,439$985 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$985.466656.1%37 W · 29 L+5.9wins+0.09per pick47cpaid+6.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xbb64…bfdcbacked Wildcard12c8,271$987 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$986.7218341%75 W · 108 L-1.0wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-9.4%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x7645…3117backed Wildcard13c8,000$1,040 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,04071645.9%329 W · 387 L-3.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Wildcard14c7,636$1,069 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,069.0764852%337 W · 311 L+10.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5674…8b14backed Wildcard15c7,570$1,140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,139.5536742.8%157 W · 210 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x183f…85e3backed Wildcard14c6,328$886 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$885.923848.3%115 W · 123 L+3.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4092…f145backed Wildcard28c6,313$1,762 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,762.345650%28 W · 28 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+10.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xeae5…0720backed Wildcard13c6,000$780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7801127.3%3 W · 8 L-1.8wins-0.17per pick44cpaid-57.3%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x67b6…00bcbacked Wildcard13c6,000$780 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78028538.2%109 W · 176 L-10.0wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-8.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x43a6…8b32backed PARIVISION79c5,868$4,640 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,228.451100%1 W · 0 L+0.2wins+0.21per pick79cpaid+26.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9635…ae57backed Wildcard8c5,638$451 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$451.0850%0 W · 5 L-1.3wins-0.26per pick26cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe53f…62d7backed Wildcard14c5,104$714 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$714.3642638%162 W · 264 L-8.5wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xea79…a9ccbacked Wildcard14c5,055$708 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$707.714954.4%81 W · 68 L-6.5wins-0.04per pick59cpaid-6.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Wildcard13c5,000$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6501,40833.7%475 W · 933 L+43.0wins+0.03per pick31cpaid+8.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed Wildcard12c4,875$566 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$566.2523949%117 W · 122 L-7.1wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-11.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Wildcard19c4,517$849 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$848.933,25650.3%1,637 W · 1,619 L+97.8wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-6.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x87da…53d1backed PARIVISION80c4,373$3,498 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$874.7437346.4%173 W · 200 L-16.6wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-9.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x4ee5…b8f7backed Wildcard22c4,217$916 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$916.13911.1%1 W · 8 L-2.2wins-0.25per pick36cpaid-76.6%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x065d…f0f1backed PARIVISION74c3,991$2,953 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,037.741464.3%9 W · 5 L+0.9wins+0.07per pick58cpaid+7.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc866…8c6dbacked Wildcard21c3,902$818 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$817.8922534.2%77 W · 148 L-19.3wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-36.9%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x3609…3a0bbacked Wildcard20c3,721$732 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$732.211145.5%5 W · 6 L+0.5wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+69.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Wildcard18c3,703$655 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$655.3656732.5%184 W · 383 L-30.0wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-36.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0698…b91dbacked Wildcard13c3,419$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$449.815637.2%58 W · 98 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-10.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0a63…fc03backed Wildcard12c3,000$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36042142%177 W · 244 L+0.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid+2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x26ac…a735backed Wildcard14c2,855$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$399.6524429.5%72 W · 172 L-0.3wins0.00per pick30cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd705…fb7cbacked Wildcard20c2,697$549 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$549.1232536%117 W · 208 L-11.0wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-15.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Wildcard6c2,681$157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$157.093,09648.5%1,501 W · 1,595 L+135.0wins+0.04per pick44cpaid-5.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Wildcard13c2,556$332 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$332.225,81037.8%2,196 W · 3,614 L+78.9wins+0.01per pick36cpaid+0.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x965c…2285backed Wildcard24c2,527$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$599.9910%0 W · 1 L-0.2wins-0.24per pick24cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8d87…8dbbbacked Wildcard21c2,445$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$512.7326037.3%97 W · 163 L-17.4wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-31.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x6027…4320backed Wildcard13c2,433$313 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$312.9660%0 W · 6 L-2.6wins-0.44per pick44cpaid-100%equal weight41-0.09 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked PARIVISION75c2,302$1,721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$581.881,61145.4%731 W · 880 L+30.0wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-14.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xecee…a577backed Wildcard21c2,300$473 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$473.438226.8%22 W · 60 L-7.3wins-0.09per pick36cpaid-39.2%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7048…282dbacked Wildcard30c2,248$668 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$668.092661.5%16 W · 10 L+1.8wins+0.07per pick55cpaid+7.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xccec…1dfcbacked PARIVISION75c2,153$1,625 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$528.1721045.7%96 W · 114 L-6.8wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-11.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2d39…6053backed PARIVISION75c2,137$1,602 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$534.3488746.7%414 W · 473 L+8.9wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-15.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8907…a996backed Wildcard10c2,121$222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$222.221330.8%4 W · 9 L-1.1wins-0.08per pick39cpaid-50.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdfa5…01b3backed Wildcard13c2,115$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$284.427145.1%32 W · 39 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+5.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed Wildcard12c2,000$240 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2401,08050.9%550 W · 530 L+38.2wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xe015…6ffdbacked Wildcard11c1,958$209 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208.6115245.4%69 W · 83 L+4.7wins+0.03per pick42cpaid-2.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0b45…ac9fbacked Wildcard23c1,954$452 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$452.3338942.4%165 W · 224 L-15.5wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-21.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5031…1ffbbacked PARIVISION72c1,807$1,309 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$497.814163.4%26 W · 15 L+4.2wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+16.1%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked PARIVISION76c1,778$1,351 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$426.851,05449%516 W · 538 L+38.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xe8e1…49ddbacked Wildcard16c1,745$284 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$284.21,39848.4%676 W · 722 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Wildcard13c1,636$216 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$216.291,60646.8%752 W · 854 L-27.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8aa6…83f9backed Wildcard25c1,622$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$400.218442.9%79 W · 105 L-6.5wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-10.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x24a5…b3bbbacked Wildcard7c1,607$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.9929127.5%80 W · 211 L+3.5wins+0.01per pick26cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4b0e…528dbacked Wildcard11c1,574$171 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$171.431827.8%5 W · 13 L+0.5wins+0.03per pick25cpaid-23.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa2e9…a86ebacked Wildcard30c1,525$453 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453.0819355.4%107 W · 86 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4711…ce32backed Wildcard19c1,500$280 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.989736.1%35 W · 62 L+1.0wins+0.01per pick35cpaid+0.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked PARIVISION79c1,486$1,171 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.887,89250.5%3,983 W · 3,909 L+182.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x4713…4d21backed Wildcard21c1,457$303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302.85,26231.3%1,647 W · 3,615 L-381.6wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-37.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x629d…756cbacked Wildcard22c1,457$321 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$321.372,33042.5%991 W · 1,339 L-71.2wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-20.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x606d…1aafbacked PARIVISION74c1,438$1,059 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$378.4213065.4%85 W · 45 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick63cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9e1c…b3abbacked Wildcard12c1,409$169 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$169.121553.3%8 W · 7 L+0.4wins+0.03per pick51cpaid-8.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed Wildcard14c1,390$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.6260248.7%293 W · 309 L+0.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Wildcard13c1,369$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$174.971,56729.8%467 W · 1,100 L-86.0wins-0.05per pick35cpaid-39%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x61fa…7f62backed Wildcard28c1,363$386 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$386.0733553.4%179 W · 156 L-8.0wins-0.02per pick56cpaid-7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked Wildcard23c1,333$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.3552837.1%196 W · 332 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed PARIVISION79c1,324$1,045 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$279.416,46642.9%2,777 W · 3,689 L-78.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-21.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf88f…7e8ebacked PARIVISION74c1,323$984 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$339.32250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.16per pick66cpaid-32.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa474…32cbbacked Wildcard6c1,242$76 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.2925345.8%116 W · 137 L+9.2wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+3.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x968a…3841backed Wildcard17c1,211$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.288324.1%20 W · 63 L-7.8wins-0.09per pick34cpaid-43.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xad2a…99a3backed PARIVISION74c1,171$867 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$304.4720045.5%91 W · 109 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0df8…b67ebacked PARIVISION76c1,133$862 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.9617250.6%87 W · 85 L+4.4wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb31b…d703backed Wildcard28c1,052$295 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$294.6938552.7%203 W · 182 L-7.0wins-0.02per pick55cpaid-10.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfff1…5e20backed Wildcard12c1,000$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12010%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.12per pick12cpaid-100%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x260c…7130backed Wildcard13c1,000$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1307839.7%31 W · 47 L+3.2wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+7.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb1b8…9d1fbacked Wildcard5c1,000$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5032832.3%106 W · 222 L+10.6wins+0.03per pick29cpaid+15.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x182d…73e9backed Wildcard14c973.51$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.2978639.4%310 W · 476 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7044…2eb6backed PARIVISION80c969.63$776 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$193.9315857.6%91 W · 67 L+5.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+6.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0257…22b2backed Wildcard33c959.68$315 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$314.8245455.1%250 W · 204 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick54cpaid-2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfc02…aeabbacked Wildcard7c959.54$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$65.491741.2%7 W · 10 L+0.9wins+0.05per pick36cpaid-2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa07d…9a01backed Wildcard20c949.1$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.343933.7%148 W · 291 L-0.9wins0.00per pick34cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x208b…9613backed Wildcard20c935.31$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.41757.1%4 W · 3 L+0.5wins+0.06per pick51cpaid-2.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x643e…679bbacked Wildcard16c915.26$143 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$143.230%0 W · 3 L-0.6wins-0.21per pick21cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x10b0…8525backed Wildcard19c895.68$172 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$171.7960748.1%292 W · 315 L+7.3wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb6ce…7a7dbacked Wildcard14c893.7$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.711,25646.7%587 W · 669 L+17.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x82dc…5700backed PARIVISION75c878.66$657 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$221.2287047.9%417 W · 453 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-14%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8d94…e9c2backed Wildcard11c873.25$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.373135.5%11 W · 20 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-15%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a2c…5172backed Wildcard18c833.83$151 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$151.193030%9 W · 21 L-3.3wins-0.11per pick41cpaid-35.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc371…1e28backed Wildcard11c819.38$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$93.7746843.4%203 W · 265 L-11.7wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-21.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x87ff…6632backed Wildcard12c801.47$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96.181050%5 W · 5 L+0.6wins+0.06per pick44cpaid+7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x51e6…80d2backed Wildcard13c800$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10415642.3%66 W · 90 L+3.8wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x26a6…dedebacked Wildcard24c797.92$192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$191.5616.7%1 W · 5 L-1.4wins-0.23per pick40cpaid-60.3%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x60b8…d47dbacked Wildcard13c729.08$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.7860857.2%348 W · 260 L-7.4wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9c16…2dabbacked Wildcard20c712.17$146 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$145.8862.5%5 W · 3 L+0.3wins+0.04per pick58cpaid-13.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x31de…51bfbacked Wildcard25c700$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$17510%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.25per pick25cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3e1d…f786backed Wildcard14c685.07$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.46728.6%2 W · 5 L-1.0wins-0.14per pick43cpaid-61.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3b87…6a47backed PARIVISION72c682.78$492 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$191.1813059.2%77 W · 53 L+4.1wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+0.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc49b…70c0backed Wildcard16c677.19$111 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$110.6860838.2%232 W · 376 L+11.2wins+0.02per pick36cpaid-7.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6033…8a83backed Wildcard27c648.75$175 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$175.3615133.1%50 W · 101 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7972…594fbacked Wildcard31c637.01$197 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$197.478951.7%46 W · 43 L-5.2wins-0.06per pick57cpaid-9.5%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x628b…b84fbacked Wildcard21c617.54$130 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$129.6830%0 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.23per pick23cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in CS2 and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 6 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.