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NFL · resolved market

Packers vs. Bears

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bearsof Packers, Bears
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NFLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$6,327,887
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$6,522,406

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $6,327,887 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,425 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NFL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NFL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x16b2…a881backed Packers47c825,923$391,644 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$391,644.2686547.9%414 W · 451 L-6.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Bears51c476,717$244,897 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$231,819.8316955%93 W · 76 L+15.0wins+0.09per pick46cpaid+6.1%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x0a55…f9bebacked Bears53c397,916$210,896 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$187,020.721428.6%4 W · 10 L-3.1wins-0.22per pick51cpaid-39.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Bears46c391,407$180,189 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$211,218.3130043.7%131 W · 169 L-4.4wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-15.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x90ab…ded1backed Packers55c370,562$205,593 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205,592.892556%14 W · 11 L+1.9wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+29.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0d3b…c46bbacked Bears52c364,750$189,438 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$175,31211145.9%51 W · 60 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x33f6…e0debacked Packers48c362,613$173,820 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$173,820.371030%3 W · 7 L-2.0wins-0.20per pick50cpaid-41.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x1496…a429backed Bears52c347,093$180,488 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$166,604.4827454.7%150 W · 124 L+13.3wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+11.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x5350…2fdabacked Bears53c211,767$111,501 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$100,266.014250%21 W · 21 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+12.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4335…fc2fbacked Packers48c180,000$85,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85,799.9711168.5%76 W · 35 L+18.5wins+0.17per pick52cpaid+34.3%equal weight65+0.14 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Bears52c132,297$68,254 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64,043.575852.5%398 W · 360 L+21.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Bears13c113,977$15,040 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98,937.6220026%52 W · 148 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick27cpaid-29.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Bears52c112,439$58,009 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54,430.1953348.4%258 W · 275 L+1.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x31c5…ede4backed Packers48c101,000$48,480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48,48016545.5%75 W · 90 L+4.2wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+12.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Bears47c92,001$43,680 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48,320.8247348.4%229 W · 244 L+1.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Bears46c84,848$38,908 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45,940.4773651.2%377 W · 359 L+25.9wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+5.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xfc25…1f7fbacked Bears53c83,903$44,468 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$39,434.212144.6%54 W · 67 L+6.4wins+0.05per pick39cpaid+15.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x9249…4f16backed Packers49c80,000$38,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$38,80017647.7%84 W · 92 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Bears52c69,551$35,874 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33,677.0711544.3%51 W · 64 L-6.9wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-7.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x5da4…e203backed Packers48c60,000$28,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28,8003548.6%17 W · 18 L+2.6wins+0.08per pick41cpaid+21.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xfa21…1438backed Packers60c55,533$33,299 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$33,299.226459.4%38 W · 26 L+2.0wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x3450…6793backed Bears38c55,319$20,891 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34,428.437255.6%40 W · 32 L+3.7wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Bears27c52,250$14,193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38,057.312748%61 W · 66 L+4.3wins+0.03per pick45cpaid-5.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed Packers77c51,859$39,819 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39,819.357440.5%30 W · 44 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+9.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x561b…05c3backed Packers50c50,994$25,495 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,495.2320%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.50per pick50cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x27cb…169ebacked Bears53c50,000$26,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,599.975431.5%17 W · 37 L+1.7wins+0.03per pick28cpaid+2.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1d1a…0df6backed Bears50c48,230$24,249 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,981.1216860.7%102 W · 66 L+18.7wins+0.11per pick50cpaid+21.3%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0x64b5…7543backed Packers48c41,463$19,784 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,784.3714342%60 W · 83 L+6.9wins+0.05per pick37cpaid+10.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x68df…4815backed Bears24c41,045$10,043 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31,002.318156.9%103 W · 78 L+11.8wins+0.07per pick50cpaid+11.4%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x1894…9720backed Packers49c40,974$20,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20,000728.6%2 W · 5 L-0.3wins-0.05per pick33cpaid-17.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9158…fa7bbacked Bears46c40,000$18,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,60011445.6%52 W · 62 L-3.9wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x68dd…f0b2backed Bears52c40,000$20,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,199.9716051.9%83 W · 77 L+5.2wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Bears25c36,641$9,299 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27,342.2323244.4%103 W · 129 L+4.5wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-14.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Bears22c35,544$7,704 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27,840.1468446.1%315 W · 369 L+16.9wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-6.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe6a3…2f0dbacked Packers48c35,090$16,843 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,843.441040%4 W · 6 L-0.7wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-23%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Bears20c30,968$6,282 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24,686.0719235.4%68 W · 124 L-0.6wins0.00per pick36cpaid-35%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe8a8…a48ebacked Bears52c30,555$15,889 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,666.366459.4%38 W · 26 L+4.3wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+38.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf8cc…5a82backed Bears52c30,000$15,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,4005724.6%14 W · 43 L+1.7wins+0.03per pick22cpaid-30.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdb25…a6e2backed Bears54c30,000$16,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,8001100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.46per pick54cpaid+85.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcfba…6030backed Packers47c30,000$14,100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,10010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.47per pick47cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8f03…64d6backed Bears54c27,871$15,010 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12,861.3824957%142 W · 107 L+12.6wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+12.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x88a2…d974backed Packers47c27,660$13,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,00013142%55 W · 76 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick40cpaid+0.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x3a55…394ebacked Bears44c25,997$11,443 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,553.926639.4%26 W · 40 L-4.5wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-27.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x1a38…8fb5backed Packers49c25,723$12,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,50014252.1%74 W · 68 L+3.1wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+7.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbde5…9c38backed Packers51c22,195$11,272 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,272.4830743.6%134 W · 173 L-1.2wins0.00per pick44cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc58d…9373backed Packers48c22,035$10,577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,576.89245.7%42 W · 50 L+1.5wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked Bears30c21,466$6,369 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,097.571163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.4wins+0.12per pick51cpaid+20.5%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Bears11c21,175$2,389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,786.1831543.2%136 W · 179 L+6.9wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-14.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf6c0…722ebacked Packers62c20,299$12,636 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,636.374671.7%33 W · 13 L+2.5wins+0.05per pick66cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xbb2f…eca9backed Packers48c20,000$9,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,599.9917348%83 W · 90 L+2.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xbcc9…26fbbacked Packers47c19,600$9,212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,212742.9%3 W · 4 L-0.3wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-21.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7b88…5d08backed Bears52c19,310$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,309.8118650%93 W · 93 L+9.3wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+14.3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe965…6559backed Packers73c17,594$12,797 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,797.416149.2%30 W · 31 L-3.5wins-0.06per pick55cpaid-14.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5eb7…05f6backed Packers48c17,333$8,320 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,320.0110144.6%45 W · 56 L+4.5wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+7.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9c0f…7b84backed Packers56c17,293$9,649 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,648.72633.3%2 W · 4 L-0.6wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-47.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xca3f…8078backed Bears53c16,083$8,457 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,625.8514951%76 W · 73 L+4.0wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+10.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6603…959ebacked Packers49c15,038$7,296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,295.6910%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4488…e319backed Bears52c15,000$7,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,20035848.6%174 W · 184 L-3.0wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2838…fdd3backed Bears52c14,904$7,750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,153.922544%11 W · 14 L+2.7wins+0.11per pick33cpaid+15.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x7d5c…0182backed Bears53c14,000$7,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,58010650.9%54 W · 52 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-2.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x27f2…702cbacked Packers53c13,485$7,191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,190.599359.1%55 W · 38 L-6.8wins-0.07per pick67cpaid-12.4%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x4f5b…d411backed Packers78c12,931$10,087 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,087.042055%11 W · 9 L-1.9wins-0.10per pick65cpaid-17.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xb092…449dbacked Bears39c12,704$5,001 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,703.451100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.61per pick39cpaid+154%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x01b4…372ebacked Packers1c12,000$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1204515.6%7 W · 38 L+6.1wins+0.13per pick2cpaid+931.6%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Bears52c11,996$6,297 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,699.1719152.9%101 W · 90 L+0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid+2.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6ade…f5b0backed Packers48c11,850$5,651 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,650.9912944.2%57 W · 72 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick45cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb84a…055dbacked Packers51c11,844$6,032 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,031.911741.2%7 W · 10 L-2.4wins-0.14per pick55cpaid-28.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Bears29c11,811$3,431 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,380.0711643.1%50 W · 66 L+1.8wins+0.02per pick42cpaid-15.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xaab5…aab4backed Bears50c11,254$5,627 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,626.89666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.5wins+0.09per pick58cpaid+16.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Packers48c10,089$4,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,80012744.9%57 W · 70 L-8.8wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-14.8%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xf655…7ea4backed Bears51c10,000$5,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,90016226.5%43 W · 119 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick26cpaid-30.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x188c…c62bbacked Bears53c10,000$5,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,7002564%16 W · 9 L+3.5wins+0.14per pick50cpaid+19.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x87b6…4ababacked Bears51c10,000$5,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,9004452.3%23 W · 21 L+1.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+9.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x187b…26bfbacked Packers47c10,000$4,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,7003447.1%16 W · 18 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+112.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Bears6c10,000$550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,45051352.2%268 W · 245 L+16.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+12.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x226b…cad6backed Bears49c10,000$4,900 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,099.9423937.7%90 W · 149 L-9.3wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-7.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfd2b…8e50backed Bears61c9,950$6,038 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,912.2110026%26 W · 74 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick29cpaid-5.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Bears57c9,592$5,443 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,148.925940.7%24 W · 35 L-5.8wins-0.10per pick50cpaid-22.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0xc5b5…7e80backed Bears38c9,217$3,535 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,682.3920757.5%119 W · 88 L+17.5wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+13.3%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xcb43…3c74backed Bears53c9,000$4,770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,23026547.2%125 W · 140 L+10.4wins+0.04per pick43cpaid+11.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1b40…d85ebacked Bears40c8,899$3,563 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,336.01850%4 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.15per pick35cpaid+25.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x0eb3…f766backed Packers48c8,307$3,973 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,973.267248.6%35 W · 37 L-2.1wins-0.03per pick52cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2128…4c6dbacked Packers49c8,232$4,039 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,039.231770.6%12 W · 5 L+4.6wins+0.27per pick43cpaid+66.8%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0x8c20…7d4fbacked Packers47c8,000$3,760 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,7601346.2%6 W · 7 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd568…a35abacked Bears53c7,582$4,019 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,563.611968.4%13 W · 6 L+3.6wins+0.19per pick49cpaid+39%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x26ca…efc3backed Bears52c7,418$3,831 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,587.111258.3%7 W · 5 L+0.6wins+0.05per pick53cpaid+8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Bears42c7,400$3,072 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,328.049853.1%52 W · 46 L+9.1wins+0.09per pick44cpaid+10.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xcd36…a8acbacked Packers76c7,395$5,626 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,625.776645.5%30 W · 36 L-4.4wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-17.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x78ad…45ccbacked Packers65c7,172$4,645 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,645.241872.2%13 W · 5 L+3.1wins+0.17per pick55cpaid+43.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x2984…0fc6backed Packers52c6,928$3,601 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,601.314744.7%21 W · 26 L-4.0wins-0.09per pick53cpaid-20%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Packers48c6,777$3,259 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,258.8756852.3%297 W · 271 L+26.3wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+6.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x03ed…4927backed Bears52c6,740$3,505 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,235.38366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.2wins+0.07per pick59cpaid+9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xebd2…399bbacked Packers49c6,735$3,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,30020%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xbf05…70dabacked Bears38c6,569$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,069.3414763.9%94 W · 53 L+12.0wins+0.08per pick56cpaid+14.8%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Packers0c6,098$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.874311.6%7 W · 424 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick3cpaid-82.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd4da…3175backed Packers54c5,901$3,183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,182.84362.8%27 W · 16 L+4.3wins+0.10per pick53cpaid+24%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x37ba…1e51backed Packers46c5,739$2,640 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,640.0610%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.46per pick46cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3eef…6038backed Bears53c5,704$3,023 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,680.651100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.47per pick53cpaid+88.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe542…0a37backed Bears45c5,561$2,516 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,045.4821227.8%59 W · 153 L+10.6wins+0.05per pick23cpaid-24.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3ae5…53c8backed Packers56c5,340$2,990 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,990.45143.1%22 W · 29 L+0.2wins0.00per pick43cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NFL and say nothing about this market.

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Polymarket sells these questions together. 11 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.