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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Timberwolves (-6.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Timberwolvesof Timberwolves, Hawks
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$248,680
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$263,674

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $248,680 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 166 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xb5e9…4044backed Timberwolves61c38,497$23,324 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,172.69053.3%48 W · 42 L+3.3wins+0.04per pick50cpaid-0.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf668…5c69backed Timberwolves52c29,662$15,363 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,299.2836359.8%217 W · 146 L+23.7wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+14.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xc2c1…9fe2backed Hawks45c19,400$8,730 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,7307240.3%29 W · 43 L-5.9wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-19.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xdc87…7ab6backed Hawks49c17,875$8,703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,703.052,66648%1,279 W · 1,387 L-8.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdb27…c56ebacked Hawks41c17,550$7,196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,195.6487144.7%389 W · 482 L+14.9wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Timberwolves58c16,582$9,697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,885.032,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe7a2…ae70backed Timberwolves57c12,557$7,157 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,399.5121549.8%107 W · 108 L-0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid+3.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5c3a…020bbacked Timberwolves55c12,159$6,688 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,471.6829055.5%161 W · 129 L+15.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+8.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Hawks48c10,512$5,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,001.673,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x5330…0bfabacked Timberwolves51c9,803$4,999 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,803.9313142.7%56 W · 75 L-8.3wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-15.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Hawks41c9,339$3,853 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,853.019,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6e12…20e9backed Timberwolves55c9,065$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,065.1229347.4%139 W · 154 L-5.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Timberwolves57c7,491$4,270 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,221.123,34243.4%1,450 W · 1,892 L+81.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Timberwolves55c7,210$3,992 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,218.212,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xea2b…1fc6backed Timberwolves57c7,081$4,036 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,044.9638253.4%204 W · 178 L+6.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed Hawks48c6,294$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0001,19448.8%583 W · 611 L-22.7wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf61a…4d92backed Timberwolves50c6,200$3,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,100250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Hawks42c6,080$2,554 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,554.254,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Timberwolves57c5,330$3,038 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,291.992753.5%496 W · 431 L+20.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Timberwolves55c4,327$2,376 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,950.631,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x66cc…7135backed Timberwolves52c4,199$2,183 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,015.3521250.5%107 W · 105 L-1.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c16…4b37backed Timberwolves55c4,014$2,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,806.4529352.6%154 W · 139 L+14.1wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+26%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Timberwolves75c3,593$2,696 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$896.988,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc607…28febacked Hawks50c3,200$1,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,600250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x46b6…d3cebacked Hawks50c2,800$1,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,400250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins0.00per pick50cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x33dd…ef8abacked Timberwolves56c2,736$1,532 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,203.8313954.7%76 W · 63 L+7.8wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+12.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Hawks43c2,619$1,128 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,127.674,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3860…0efcbacked Hawks48c2,457$1,179 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,179.4512950.4%65 W · 64 L-0.2wins0.00per pick51cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4958…a146backed Hawks49c2,041$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,000.091323.1%3 W · 10 L-2.8wins-0.21per pick44cpaid-53.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x21d2…d3ebbacked Timberwolves51c2,041$1,041 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,000.092050%10 W · 10 L-0.1wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Timberwolves65c1,580$1,024 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$556.53,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7298…fe8dbacked Hawks42c1,551$652 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$651.5165750.1%329 W · 328 L+10.8wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4a86…d3e0backed Hawks44c1,533$671 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$671.153,28549.1%1,613 W · 1,672 L+5.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6b60…9c7ebacked Hawks39c1,518$592 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591.8422643.8%99 W · 127 L-8.9wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-8.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa965…3565backed Hawks45c1,500$680 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6801,91145.4%868 W · 1,043 L+22.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0d4a…2215backed Timberwolves49c999.94$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$509.9719838.9%77 W · 121 L-13.2wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-18.8%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x5bc4…f44fbacked Timberwolves58c999.68$580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$419.8745647.1%215 W · 241 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdbb9…ed8dbacked Hawks47c877.65$412 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$412.492,73646.7%1,277 W · 1,459 L-67.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Hawks48c800$384 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3841,47551.3%756 W · 719 L+35.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x84f7…ade1backed Timberwolves57c696$397 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$299.281,71544.5%764 W · 951 L-0.2wins0.00per pick45cpaid+3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x781c…db68backed Timberwolves75c680.51$507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$173.221,38439.4%545 W · 839 L+4.8wins0.00per pick39cpaid-21.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa578…6702backed Timberwolves58c603$350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$253.261,15049.5%569 W · 581 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6fa0…d504backed Hawks50c550$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2758350.6%42 W · 41 L+2.7wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+3.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf782…6849backed Hawks46c519.44$239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$239.1513750.4%69 W · 68 L+2.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xeb22…808abacked Hawks50c500$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25095641.7%399 W · 557 L+1.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Timberwolves59c490$288 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$201.756,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4c9…617dbacked Timberwolves50c400$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20011351.3%58 W · 55 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x64db…325bbacked Hawks51c392.16$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2001,25948.7%613 W · 646 L+1.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1733…dc80backed Timberwolves52c386.49$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$186.4919741.6%82 W · 115 L-4.9wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfc8b…d3d6backed Timberwolves59c355.75$211 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$144.4323845.4%108 W · 130 L-6.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x682f…3265backed Timberwolves59c338.98$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.981,38954.9%762 W · 627 L+16.7wins+0.01per pick54cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Hawks43c325$140 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$139.892,75350.7%1,396 W · 1,357 L+47.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x011b…fcc3backed Hawks51c313.73$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16021743.8%95 W · 122 L-9.5wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-12.2%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x5e5b…a569backed Hawks51c313.73$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16023847.1%112 W · 126 L-4.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8cbb…acb2backed Timberwolves55c303.92$167 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$136.9489050.4%449 W · 441 L+4.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.3%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xfcf3…f535backed Hawks42c283.43$119 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$119.0424332.9%80 W · 163 L-22.7wins-0.09per pick42cpaid-19.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x2942…a018backed Hawks51c266.67$136 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13623143.3%100 W · 131 L-13.5wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xbc1b…3b5bbacked Timberwolves51c259.74$132 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$127.2724946.6%116 W · 133 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-0.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3fdf…0ef0backed Hawks50c206.02$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.01250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Hawks44c200$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$872,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xcc63…f1c7backed Timberwolves53c200$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9450653.2%269 W · 237 L+8.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x83a3…6292backed Hawks51c196.08$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10081845.7%374 W · 444 L+9.2wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-3.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4949…478ebacked Timberwolves51c196.08$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$96.083548.6%17 W · 18 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7ed8…0e99backed Hawks15c186.35$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.4245653.5%244 W · 212 L-4.0wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-4.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1787…c311backed Timberwolves60c155.2$93 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$62.081,44458.1%839 W · 605 L+13.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x849f…0665backed Hawks48c150$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7295047.2%448 W · 502 L-28.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-6.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Hawks39c150$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.55,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6de9…a8e5backed Hawks42c142.31$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.7736247.5%172 W · 190 L-0.7wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x65d8…bac6backed Hawks42c141.71$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.5238350.4%193 W · 190 L+12.5wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+6.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x49ed…a2fbbacked Timberwolves57c133$76 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.1921937%81 W · 138 L-15.9wins-0.07per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf89c…8937backed Timberwolves51c131.37$67 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.373278.1%25 W · 7 L+7.0wins+0.22per pick56cpaid+44.4%equal weight64+0.12 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Timberwolves60c123.54$74 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.323,66841.9%1,538 W · 2,130 L-70.7wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-15.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xecfc…cd05backed Timberwolves56c121$67 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$53.831,16352.8%614 W · 549 L+22.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x48cf…c7dfbacked Hawks50c119.89$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6036453%193 W · 171 L-17.0wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-8.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x6fad…374cbacked Hawks42c119.05$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5018644.1%82 W · 104 L-0.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-4.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xea78…a74ebacked Hawks43c116.28$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5056547.8%270 W · 295 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x41c8…424fbacked Timberwolves57c115.7$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.7521459.3%127 W · 87 L+12.3wins+0.06per pick54cpaid+9.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x05f9…f351backed Hawks42c115$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.341048.3%198 W · 212 L+1.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid+4.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0c69…2b8dbacked Timberwolves55c108.04$60 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$48.161,00351%512 W · 491 L+6.4wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf18a…e4e5backed Hawks41c106.12$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.043,55146.8%1,663 W · 1,888 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf102…1348backed Hawks43c100$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4352240%209 W · 313 L-8.4wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-6.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2b15…fa73backed Timberwolves50c100$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$508651.2%44 W · 42 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe0c7…5861backed Hawks50c99.43$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5051651.2%264 W · 252 L-6.4wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x5e78…70c7backed Timberwolves55c95.2$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.4132952.9%174 W · 155 L+9.7wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xdd84…9f62backed Hawks49c89.23$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.4914352.4%75 W · 68 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb107…a3f8backed Timberwolves56c70$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30.81,01851.6%525 W · 493 L+10.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3c04…2e2dbacked Hawks50c68$34 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3450648%243 W · 263 L-0.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc56b…fe0abacked Hawks42c65.62$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27.5627943%120 W · 159 L-5.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-7.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6ae4…7c46backed Timberwolves55c62.26$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.7833653.9%181 W · 155 L+13.4wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+5.4%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9d70…fdd9backed Timberwolves61c60$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.46653%35 W · 31 L+2.6wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+7.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe315…3911backed Timberwolves58c52.7$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.0457657.8%333 W · 243 L+13.0wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1750…c64fbacked Hawks50c50$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25850%4 W · 4 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-3.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xefde…6505backed Hawks38c49.73$19 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.91,56247.4%741 W · 821 L-6.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2e69…200ebacked Hawks42c47.15$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.828140.6%114 W · 167 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1ce1…b62cbacked Hawks43c46.51$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201650%8 W · 8 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-9.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2ab0…f2d7backed Hawks42c46.5$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19.5320448.5%99 W · 105 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+4.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7b06…10a7backed Hawks44c45.45$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208558.8%50 W · 35 L+8.1wins+0.10per pick49cpaid+17%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0d26…a6d5backed Timberwolves56c44.64$25 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19.641250%6 W · 6 L-0.4wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x68d8…4cc6backed Timberwolves72c43.02$31 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12.0214455.6%80 W · 64 L+4.1wins+0.03per pick53cpaid+2.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb5a8…8a9dbacked Timberwolves56c41.27$23 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.165457.4%31 W · 23 L+3.6wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+9.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 23 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.