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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Cavaliers (-13.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Bullsof Cavaliers, Bulls
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
Polymarket published no figure
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$136,878

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $136,878 TailMyPicks’s own total, because the venue published none.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 153 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf668…5c69backed Bulls60c36,209$21,888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,320.2436359.8%217 W · 146 L+23.7wins+0.07per pick53cpaid+14.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Cavaliers38c17,038$6,427 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,427.398,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Bulls54c12,474$6,770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,704.459,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4408…1b6abacked Cavaliers45c12,023$5,410 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,410.347653.9%41 W · 35 L+6.4wins+0.08per pick45cpaid+17.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7973…34d4backed Bulls56c7,143$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,142.865437%20 W · 34 L-6.4wins-0.12per pick49cpaid-24.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Cavaliers49c7,123$3,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,5001,91054.3%1,038 W · 872 L+25.2wins+0.01per pick53cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9e16…0127backed Cavaliers41c3,770$1,546 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,545.722143%95 W · 126 L-12.0wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-11.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Cavaliers46c3,308$1,517 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,517.394,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x178d…43fcbacked Bulls57c3,118$1,770 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,347.81442.9%6 W · 8 L+0.1wins0.00per pick42cpaid+19.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x48e2…2a5fbacked Cavaliers44c2,630$1,157 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,157.217550.9%89 W · 86 L+3.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe7a2…ae70backed Cavaliers45c1,850$833 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$832.521549.8%107 W · 108 L-0.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid+3.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa965…3565backed Cavaliers39c1,591$627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$627.331,91145.4%868 W · 1,043 L+22.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Bulls54c1,522$815 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$706.684,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f5c…9e02backed Cavaliers46c1,352$621 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$620.6821546.5%100 W · 115 L-3.6wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xead1…c76abacked Bulls56c1,289$727 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$561.962,04548.4%990 W · 1,055 L-30.3wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xce39…04d6backed Cavaliers44c1,238$545 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$544.5437842.9%162 W · 216 L-5.6wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0828…5cfebacked Cavaliers46c1,075$494 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$494.4817041.8%71 W · 99 L-11.5wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-21.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Bulls56c1,074$598 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$475.344,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Bulls39c1,032$408 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$624.715,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7e3a…3246backed Cavaliers60c1,022$613 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$612.919954.8%109 W · 90 L+12.2wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+12.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x67b4…19acbacked Bulls40c1,000$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6004052.5%21 W · 19 L0.0wins0.00per pick53cpaid-2.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x691a…d113backed Cavaliers37c1,000$370 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$37054443%234 W · 310 L-18.0wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-11.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xc2b6…d7cebacked Cavaliers46c974.33$447 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$447.227542.7%32 W · 43 L-3.9wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-18.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7096…7f78backed Bulls56c885.58$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$385.5865349.9%326 W · 327 L+20.2wins+0.03per pick47cpaid+0.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xbfd7…f0bfbacked Cavaliers50c878.07$438 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$438.41,75848.7%856 W · 902 L+28.3wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe0d2…ad14backed Bulls60c833.33$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$333.3314450.7%73 W · 71 L+5.8wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1480…6e8dbacked Bulls57c797.74$456 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$342.2358450.2%293 W · 291 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a86…d3e0backed Bulls56c797.53$448 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$349.793,28549.1%1,613 W · 1,672 L+5.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3078…0389backed Cavaliers44c735.08$327 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$326.922,90238.4%1,113 W · 1,789 L-51.9wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa6df…dda7backed Bulls52c720.75$375 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$345.9624247.1%114 W · 128 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Bulls55c679.54$374 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$305.792,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Bulls59c659.05$389 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$270.56,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9b89…99e2backed Cavaliers35c586.55$205 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.2950948.5%247 W · 262 L+2.3wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Cavaliers40c569.4$228 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$227.983,12044.7%1,394 W · 1,726 L-7.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1632…cb68backed Cavaliers43c565$243 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$242.955040%20 W · 30 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-12.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4fbc…8a18backed Cavaliers38c540.99$206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.584445.5%20 W · 24 L-3.6wins-0.08per pick54cpaid-18.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xbb8e…aa15backed Cavaliers38c526.32$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2003938.5%15 W · 24 L-5.2wins-0.13per pick52cpaid-30.6%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x7b2c…af48backed Cavaliers45c523.48$236 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$236.021,47551.3%756 W · 719 L+35.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+5.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Bulls57c517.17$295 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$222.382,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7669…f58cbacked Cavaliers61c504.6$308 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$307.8152052.3%272 W · 248 L+31.4wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+19%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x87b8…e1a1backed Cavaliers60c503.78$303 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$303.059663.5%61 W · 35 L+7.8wins+0.08per pick55cpaid+4.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xa917…4e8dbacked Cavaliers37c500$185 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1859845.9%45 W · 53 L-2.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb8cb…8f46backed Bulls52c499.99$260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24014448.6%70 W · 74 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa4be…a13dbacked Cavaliers39c495.53$191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1913938.5%15 W · 24 L-4.9wins-0.13per pick51cpaid-26.4%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xf1f0…c9e4backed Cavaliers38c473.74$180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$180.0223850.4%120 W · 118 L+1.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8929…733ebacked Cavaliers43c438$188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$188.3416139.8%64 W · 97 L-1.4wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-10.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xec56…1259backed Cavaliers46c424.76$195 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$194.969345.2%42 W · 51 L-2.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-12.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8b2d…a88dbacked Cavaliers45c416$187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$187.26439.1%25 W · 39 L-7.7wins-0.12per pick51cpaid-26.9%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Bulls55c409.95$226 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$184.385,84446.7%2,728 W · 3,116 L+32.7wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xab30…379fbacked Cavaliers13c400$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5130224.8%75 W · 227 L+15.5wins+0.05per pick20cpaid+43.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xceb7…8b33backed Cavaliers46c363.54$167 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$166.8622148%106 W · 115 L-2.4wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-8.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xa578…6702backed Bulls56c361$202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$158.81,15049.5%569 W · 581 L-12.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6a32…0086backed Bulls55c315.86$174 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$142.141,33251.2%682 W · 650 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe60c…d2e2backed Cavaliers38c272$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.3614145.4%64 W · 77 L-5.8wins-0.04per pick49cpaid-10.3%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9737…09c1backed Cavaliers38c272$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.364240.5%17 W · 25 L-4.4wins-0.10per pick51cpaid-27.3%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x4488…579cbacked Cavaliers41c249.09$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.0677549.2%381 W · 394 L-2.4wins0.00per pick49cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4c34…b7adbacked Cavaliers41c229.27$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$941450%7 W · 7 L+0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x917b…e433backed Cavaliers46c226.75$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104.2911642.2%49 W · 67 L-7.6wins-0.07per pick49cpaid-15.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xd0e7…b14fbacked Bulls56c223.98$126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$97.9534851.7%180 W · 168 L+1.1wins0.00per pick51cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3dcf…4eb4backed Cavaliers35c220.05$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77.0287453.3%466 W · 408 L+19.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x48aa…2eeebacked Cavaliers46c205.35$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.259441.5%39 W · 55 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-10.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x15d5…ef7bbacked Cavaliers43c204.65$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$881,19838.8%465 W · 733 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick38cpaid+1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x03e6…24e6backed Cavaliers46c201.54$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$92.59841.8%41 W · 57 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xea74…cf99backed Cavaliers44c200$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8853339.6%211 W · 322 L-39.9wins-0.07per pick47cpaid-17.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x1c50…7f4bbacked Cavaliers46c197.87$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.022045%9 W · 11 L-1.4wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-12.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x13e5…1ea5backed Cavaliers46c197.1$91 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$90.6320049%98 W · 102 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-11.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Bulls56c191.99$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.482,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Bulls55c191$105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.952,75350.7%1,396 W · 1,357 L+47.0wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4b71…80ecbacked Cavaliers45c189.91$85 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$858545.9%39 W · 46 L+0.3wins0.00per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe523…c6afbacked Cavaliers46c182.5$84 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$83.9515441.6%64 W · 90 L-6.0wins-0.04per pick45cpaid-12.1%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x2b85…bf37backed Cavaliers45c182.2$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.3136045%162 W · 198 L-10.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-10.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x5d24…7c37backed Cavaliers49c178$87 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.2220%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.51per pick51cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3abf…b143backed Cavaliers38c166.9$64 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.5187744.7%392 W · 485 L-1.7wins0.00per pick45cpaid-13.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6aff…da59backed Cavaliers38c164.53$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.943655.6%20 W · 16 L+4.3wins+0.12per pick44cpaid+19.2%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x53c8…f543backed Cavaliers46c159.1$73 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72.99560%3 W · 2 L+0.6wins+0.13per pick47cpaid+29.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7793…33a6backed Cavaliers44c153.42$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.1429344.4%130 W · 163 L-7.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-5.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7c08…af98backed Cavaliers54c150$81 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8132654.3%177 W · 149 L-1.4wins0.00per pick55cpaid-2.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2b05…7b7dbacked Cavaliers46c144.43$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.443756.8%21 W · 16 L+2.4wins+0.06per pick50cpaid+13.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1315…cb3fbacked Cavaliers46c144.31$66 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.361361.5%8 W · 5 L+1.2wins+0.09per pick53cpaid+19.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb81f…2fd6backed Cavaliers37c143$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.914443.2%19 W · 25 L-4.2wins-0.10per pick53cpaid-20.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xb996…038cbacked Cavaliers38c138$52 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52.4413148.9%64 W · 67 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbf33…4f09backed Cavaliers46c134.46$62 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.762254.5%12 W · 10 L+1.1wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+12.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Cavaliers43c133.77$58 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57.683,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x2639…a9b6backed Cavaliers46c133.76$61 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$61.3924147.7%115 W · 126 L+6.8wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+0.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xaa15…270ebacked Cavaliers46c119.52$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.983458.8%20 W · 14 L+2.0wins+0.06per pick53cpaid+11.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1813…4dfebacked Cavaliers46c116.28$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.4939943.1%172 W · 227 L-17.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-15.3%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x0e01…7ef0backed Bulls57c116.26$66 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.5720350.2%102 W · 101 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+4.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc86…7e77backed Cavaliers39c111.11$43 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43.3392750.6%469 W · 458 L-1.8wins0.00per pick51cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3ede…6c27backed Bulls51c104$53 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50.9645151.4%232 W · 219 L+10.4wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5559…2bd2backed Cavaliers49c102.04$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5013956.1%78 W · 61 L+5.2wins+0.04per pick52cpaid+6.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xaf16…65a6backed Cavaliers49c101.77$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5025753.7%138 W · 119 L-0.2wins0.00per pick54cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5218…48d9backed Cavaliers46c100.54$46 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46.142653.8%14 W · 12 L+1.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+10%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9696…2bc3backed Bulls56c99.99$56 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.9933949.9%169 W · 170 L-1.4wins0.00per pick50cpaid-1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6c1d…1f8fbacked Bulls55c98.08$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43.9549249.8%245 W · 247 L-0.5wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5c3a…020bbacked Bulls56c96.45$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.4429055.5%161 W · 129 L+15.8wins+0.05per pick50cpaid+8.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x88bc…fc0dbacked Cavaliers46c90.28$42 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$41.532665.4%17 W · 9 L+4.1wins+0.16per pick50cpaid+33.3%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x172f…b136backed Bulls61c83.61$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$32.611471.4%10 W · 4 L+1.1wins+0.08per pick63cpaid+12%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7278…737dbacked Bulls52c81$42 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$38.88785.7%6 W · 1 L+2.2wins+0.32per pick54cpaid+57%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x9697…8024backed Cavaliers46c77.04$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.411060%6 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.12per pick48cpaid+30.3%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x42bf…3fc1backed Cavaliers46c76.96$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.41353.8%7 W · 6 L+0.7wins+0.05per pick49cpaid+15.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 27 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.