NBA · resolved market
Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 227.5
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Rebuilt .
What this market resolved to
- Winning outcome
- Overof Over, Under
- Resolved
- US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
- Scored in
- NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
- Volume Polymarket published
- $14,925
- Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
- $15,117
Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $14,925 — the venue’s figure.
Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.
Who was on this market
All 76 wallets that hold a qualified pick on this market, biggest position first. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.
| On this market | This wallet’s whole record in NBA | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wallet | Entry | Position | Result | P/L held | Qualified picks | Win rate | vs expected | Realizable edge | Avg entry | ROI per pick | Tail Score |
| 0x6b60…9c7ebacked Under | 47c | 2,998$1,409 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$1,408.74 | 226 | 43.8%99 W · 127 L | -8.9wins | -0.04per pick | 48cpaid | -8.1%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xd106…c79cbacked Over | 53c | 1,570$827 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$742.4 | 4,781 | 50.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L | +20.7wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | +0.3%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6797…42fbbacked Under | 48c | 1,000$480 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$480 | 4 | 75%3 W · 1 L | +0.9wins | +0.21per pick | 54cpaid | +38.2%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xee61…debfbacked Under | 46c | 870.15$396 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$396.22 | 9,722 | 49.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L | -2.8wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -0.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x6d3c…d294backed Over | 53c | 826.77$435 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$392.07 | 4,325 | 47%2,031 W · 2,294 L | -69.5wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -4.1%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x64db…325bbacked Under | 46c | 649.97$299 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$298.99 | 1,259 | 48.7%613 W · 646 L | +1.5wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -0.2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xcf73…0215backed Under | 44c | 626.7$277 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$277.14 | 1,277 | 47.2%603 W · 674 L | -3.3wins | 0.00per pick | 47cpaid | -1.5%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2c39…56dcbacked Under | 22c | 550.4$121 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$121.09 | 54 | 25.9%14 W · 40 L | -3.4wins | -0.06per pick | 32cpaid | -18.4%equal weight | 45-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xb946…2671backed Under | 48c | 405.21$194 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$194.17 | 650 | 45.1%293 W · 357 L | -11.8wins | -0.02per pick | 47cpaid | -2%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5bca…0d11backed Over | 53c | 382.28$203 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$179.67 | 102 | 52.9%54 W · 48 L | +6.5wins | +0.06per pick | 47cpaid | +13.1%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x30db…44e1backed Over | 53c | 380.59$202 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$178.88 | 349 | 53%185 W · 164 L | +3.8wins | +0.01per pick | 52cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0204…0e31backed Over | 52c | 374.28$194 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$180.05 | 289 | 49.1%142 W · 147 L | -3.5wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb5bd…b891backed Over | 53c | 355.32$189 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$166.63 | 298 | 49.3%147 W · 151 L | -5.7wins | -0.02per pick | 51cpaid | -6.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x32cc…68b3backed Over | 54c | 349.61$189 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$160.82 | 1,084 | 50%542 W · 542 L | +2.7wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2302…d6d2backed Over | 54c | 349.61$189 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$160.82 | 1,286 | 50.8%653 W · 633 L | +11.2wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xb3cb…9b76backed Over | 52c | 268.7$138 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$130.25 | 29 | 37.9%11 W · 18 L | -3.0wins | -0.11per pick | 48cpaid | -21.6%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x2d6a…8addbacked Under | 46c | 185.8$85 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$85.47 | 1,399 | 46.4%649 W · 750 L | -13.5wins | -0.01per pick | 47cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x934f…5bd8backed Under | 45c | 181.97$82 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$81.89 | 184 | 50.5%93 W · 91 L | +4.9wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | +9.4%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x659f…04e4backed Over | 54c | 180.42$97 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$83.19 | 55 | 47.3%26 W · 29 L | +0.8wins | +0.01per pick | 46cpaid | +0.2%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x948b…a188backed Over | 54c | 180.07$97 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$82.83 | 611 | 51.4%314 W · 297 L | +17.9wins | +0.03per pick | 48cpaid | +4.8%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0xd51e…ac0cbacked Over | 54c | 180.06$97 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$82.83 | 516 | 47.5%245 W · 271 L | -7.7wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -10%equal weight | 48-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x1e3b…e232backed Under | 44c | 177.32$78 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$78.18 | 935 | 43.6%408 W · 527 L | -32.6wins | -0.03per pick | 47cpaid | -11.8%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x7ea5…de7bbacked Over | 60c | 151.75$91 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$60.93 | 2,346 | 48.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L | -14.3wins | -0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x549d…35b9backed Under | 49c | 140$69 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$68.6 | 113 | 54.9%62 W · 51 L | +5.4wins | +0.05per pick | 50cpaid | +8%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xe414…c341backed Under | 44c | 133.74$59 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$59.07 | 813 | 49.4%402 W · 411 L | +5.5wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | +0.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xbe02…5fb3backed Over | 53c | 113.69$60 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$53.32 | 423 | 52.5%222 W · 201 L | +5.4wins | +0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -1.6%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x6683…f5f4backed Over | 52c | 97.12$51 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$46.62 | 146 | 49.3%72 W · 74 L | +0.1wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | -1.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xf02f…1ed8backed Over | 54c | 94.27$51 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$43.36 | 1,433 | 47.2%676 W · 757 L | -12.8wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -2.5%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xf263…e9c1backed Over | 53c | 91.68$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$43.09 | 111 | 45%50 W · 61 L | -1.5wins | -0.01per pick | 46cpaid | -6%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa975…42eebacked Over | 54c | 90.02$49 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$41.41 | 533 | 48.4%258 W · 275 L | -8.5wins | -0.02per pick | 50cpaid | -8%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xacce…f4e8backed Over | 53c | 82.51$44 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$38.78 | 8 | 62.5%5 W · 3 L | +0.4wins | +0.04per pick | 58cpaid | +8.7%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0xa7d8…f4f1backed Under | 49c | 80$39 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$39.2 | 16 | 62.5%10 W · 6 L | +1.6wins | +0.10per pick | 52cpaid | +22.1%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x4324…174bbacked Under | 50c | 75$38 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$37.5 | 6 | 33.3%2 W · 4 L | -1.2wins | -0.19per pick | 53cpaid | -35.8%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xa4e8…ff03backed Over | 53c | 73.34$39 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.47 | 368 | 52.2%192 W · 176 L | +8.1wins | +0.02per pick | 50cpaid | +2.5%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xf433…2464backed Over | 51c | 70.78$36 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$34.37 | 144 | 44.4%64 W · 80 L | -10.5wins | -0.07per pick | 52cpaid | -14.3%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x440b…7551backed Over | 51c | 63.09$32 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$30.91 | 8 | 12.5%1 W · 7 L | -3.3wins | -0.41per pick | 53cpaid | -75.5%equal weight | 39-0.10 edge/pick |
| 0xd196…6d5dbacked Under | 49c | 60$29 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$29.4 | 8 | 25%2 W · 6 L | -2.1wins | -0.27per pick | 52cpaid | -48.6%equal weight | 43-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0xe933…0abcbacked Under | 49c | 50$25 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$24.5 | 6 | 16.7%1 W · 5 L | -2.1wins | -0.34per pick | 51cpaid | -68.6%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0xdf68…ed10backed Over | 53c | 46.27$25 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.57 | 59 | 64.4%38 W · 21 L | +7.3wins | +0.12per pick | 52cpaid | +13.1%equal weight | 60+0.09 edge/pick |
| 0x4fc5…1ea2backed Over | 51c | 43.68$22 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$21.4 | 11 | 63.6%7 W · 4 L | +1.7wins | +0.15per pick | 48cpaid | +36%equal weight | 55+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0xd226…38b4backed Under | 47c | 43.5$20 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$20.45 | 394 | 48.7%192 W · 202 L | -1.0wins | 0.00per pick | 49cpaid | +0.1%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xfce1…4f4cbacked Over | 52c | 39.77$21 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.96 | 195 | 50.8%99 W · 96 L | -3.7wins | -0.02per pick | 53cpaid | -8.7%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x9438…3d6abacked Under | 43c | 38.93$17 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.74 | 389 | 47.6%185 W · 204 L | -6.9wins | -0.02per pick | 49cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x082a…a540backed Over | 51c | 38.82$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$19.02 | 7 | 28.6%2 W · 5 L | -1.7wins | -0.24per pick | 52cpaid | -45%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x69ca…40adbacked Over | 51c | 38.34$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$18.79 | 11 | 63.6%7 W · 4 L | +1.5wins | +0.14per pick | 50cpaid | +31.9%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x86fb…03d4backed Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 906 | 50.2%455 W · 451 L | -0.6wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa42c…b22ebacked Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 127 | 52.8%67 W · 60 L | +0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 52cpaid | -4.6%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x1968…8c66backed Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 31 | 35.5%11 W · 20 L | -4.2wins | -0.14per pick | 49cpaid | -36.3%equal weight | 42-0.08 edge/pick |
| 0x231f…254bbacked Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 98 | 48%47 W · 51 L | -3.3wins | -0.03per pick | 51cpaid | -15.3%equal weight | 47-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2e6c…e09cbacked Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 592 | 50.2%297 W · 295 L | +5.1wins | +0.01per pick | 49cpaid | -2.8%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x8098…5646backed Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 417 | 53.2%222 W · 195 L | +8.4wins | +0.02per pick | 51cpaid | +2.7%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xfb51…082dbacked Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 589 | 53.7%316 W · 273 L | +15.8wins | +0.03per pick | 51cpaid | +2.1%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x2373…a1f3backed Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 564 | 47.9%270 W · 294 L | -2.9wins | -0.01per pick | 48cpaid | -5.9%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0198…37e6backed Over | 54c | 36.75$20 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.91 | 56 | 53.6%30 W · 26 L | +1.8wins | +0.03per pick | 50cpaid | +2.2%equal weight | 53+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x6c1d…1f8fbacked Over | 53c | 36.1$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.97 | 492 | 49.8%245 W · 247 L | -0.5wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -0.8%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xd499…7d5bbacked Over | 54c | 35.7$19 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.24 | 67 | 47.8%32 W · 35 L | -0.2wins | 0.00per pick | 48cpaid | -6.9%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x2768…6bc6backed Over | 51c | 33.97$17 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$16.65 | 11 | 54.5%6 W · 5 L | +0.3wins | +0.03per pick | 52cpaid | +7.4%equal weight | 51+0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x447b…3213backed Under | 49c | 32.96$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$16.15 | 3 | 33.3%1 W · 2 L | -0.5wins | -0.17per pick | 50cpaid | -35.9%equal weight | 48-0.02 edge/pick |
| 0x5f4b…0336backed Under | 49c | 31.99$16 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$15.68 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x792a…7364backed Under | 49c | 29.68$15 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.54 | 216 | 49.1%106 W · 110 L | -1.5wins | -0.01per pick | 50cpaid | -2.1%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x0fac…82b0backed Under | 49c | 29.33$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14.37 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | 0.0wins | 0.00per pick | 50cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x70cb…cba4backed Under | 49c | 28.57$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$14 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | 0.0wins | +0.01per pick | 50cpaid | 0%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0xa9a9…73debacked Under | 49c | 28.09$14 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$13.77 | 28 | 57.1%16 W · 12 L | +1.7wins | +0.06per pick | 51cpaid | +7.6%equal weight | 53+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x479a…f7f1backed Under | 45c | 27.4$12 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$12.33 | 14 | 50%7 W · 7 L | -0.3wins | -0.02per pick | 52cpaid | -12%equal weight | 49-0.01 edge/pick |
| 0x5f22…0fb4backed Over | 54c | 27.01$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.43 | 378 | 53.4%202 W · 176 L | +13.2wins | +0.03per pick | 50cpaid | +5.2%equal weight | 54+0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x5ba2…f46bbacked Over | 54c | 27.01$15 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.43 | 32 | 37.5%12 W · 20 L | -3.8wins | -0.12per pick | 49cpaid | -29%equal weight | 43-0.07 edge/pick |
| 0x7c8a…02acbacked Over | 53c | 25.08$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.77 | 113 | 46%52 W · 61 L | -8.1wins | -0.07per pick | 53cpaid | -20.5%equal weight | 44-0.06 edge/pick |
| 0x0acf…6557backed Over | 51c | 25$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$12.25 | 2 | 100%2 W · 0 L | +1.0wins | +0.48per pick | 52cpaid | +92.4%equal weight | 54+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x8299…7926backed Over | 51c | 24$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.76 | 4 | 25%1 W · 3 L | -0.9wins | -0.24per pick | 49cpaid | -51%equal weight | 46-0.03 edge/pick |
| 0x8d42…9eadbacked Over | 51c | 24$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$11.76 | 2 | 50%1 W · 1 L | 0.0wins | -0.01per pick | 51cpaid | -2%equal weight | 500.00 edge/pick |
| 0x4aab…38ccbacked Over | 55c | 22.38$12 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.07 | 533 | 49.3%263 W · 270 L | -28.8wins | -0.05per pick | 55cpaid | -11.2%equal weight | 44-0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x6dd9…bfe8backed Over | 58c | 22.23$13 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.34 | 657 | 62.3%409 W · 248 L | +27.9wins | +0.04per pick | 58cpaid | +5.4%equal weight | 55+0.04 edge/pick |
| 0x45ed…8af4backed Over | 51c | 22$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.78 | 3 | 100%3 W · 0 L | +1.5wins | +0.49per pick | 51cpaid | +94.9%equal weight | 56+0.05 edge/pick |
| 0x9e8a…c31dbacked Over | 51c | 20.82$11 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$10.2 | 1 | 100%1 W · 0 L | +0.5wins | +0.49per pick | 51cpaid | +96.1%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
| 0xda5a…545fbacked Under | 50c | 20.18$10 in | Lost — open this pick on its own page | -$10.09 | 8 | 37.5%3 W · 5 L | -1.2wins | -0.15per pick | 53cpaid | -30.4%equal weight | 46-0.04 edge/pick |
| 0xec6c…65e9backed Over | 51c | 19.76$10 in | Won — open this pick on its own page | +$9.68 | 3 | 66.7%2 W · 1 L | +0.5wins | +0.16per pick | 51cpaid | +28.3%equal weight | 52+0.02 edge/pick |
Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.
The rest of this event
Polymarket sells these questions together. 34 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 227.5this page
- 1H Spread: Magic (-3.5)Magic won
- 1H Spread: Magic (-5.5)Magic won
- Desmond Bane: Points O/U 19.5No won
- Donte DiVincenzo: Points O/U 12.5No won
- Julius Randle: Points O/U 21.5No won
- Naz Reid: Points O/U 13.5Yes won
- Naz Reid: Rebounds O/U 5.5No won
- Rudy Gobert: Points O/U 11.5No won
- Rudy Gobert: Rebounds O/U 11.5No won
- Spread: Magic (-10.5)Magic won
- Spread: Magic (-11.5)Magic won
- Spread: Magic (-14.5)Timberwolves won
- Spread: Magic (-15.5)Timberwolves won
- Spread: Magic (-18.5)Timberwolves won
- Spread: Magic (-20.5)Timberwolves won
- Spread: Magic (-5.5)Magic won
- Spread: Magic (-6.5)Magic won
- Spread: Magic (-7.5)Magic won
- Spread: Magic (-9.5)Magic won
- Timberwolves vs. MagicMagic won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: 1H MoneylineMagic won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: 1H O/U 109.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: 1H O/U 111.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 225.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 228.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 229.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 230.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 231.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 232.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 237.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 238.5Over won
- Timberwolves vs. Magic: O/U 240.5Over won
- Wendell Carter Jr.: Rebounds O/U 7.5No won
Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.
TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.
- The market traded at least $500.
- The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
- The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
- The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.
Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.