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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Cavaliers (-6.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Hornetsof Cavaliers, Hornets
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$193,447
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$194,787

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $193,447 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 119 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x4924…3782backed Cavaliers47c98,220$46,164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46,163.5187451.5%450 W · 424 L+15.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdc87…7ab6backed Hornets53c63,564$33,495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$30,069.092,66648%1,279 W · 1,387 L-8.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xcd9b…414dbacked Hornets53c17,692$9,377 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,315.2551844.4%230 W · 288 L+11.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+8.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xea2b…1fc6backed Hornets51c13,050$6,656 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,394.3538253.4%204 W · 178 L+6.5wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Hornets53c11,556$6,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,456.151,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x6e82…752cbacked Hornets53c10,376$5,476 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,900.091,20455.3%666 W · 538 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+12.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe56d…2b65backed Cavaliers49c10,212$5,004 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,0047552%39 W · 36 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Hornets47c8,775$4,148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,627.214,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Hornets53c5,577$2,956 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,621.24,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2b46…684dbacked Cavaliers52c4,500$2,325 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,3251,64547.5%782 W · 863 L+40.9wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Cavaliers47c3,525$1,667 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,666.964,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x187b…26bfbacked Hornets52c3,218$1,673 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,544.6117348.6%84 W · 89 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+1.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Cavaliers54c3,161$1,716 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,716.298,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6557…0999backed Cavaliers46c3,017$1,380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,379.9113946.8%65 W · 74 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x69ff…0d1dbacked Hornets54c3,000$1,610 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,39033146.2%153 W · 178 L-7.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-7.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4df3…788fbacked Cavaliers46c2,717$1,251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,251.296,21350.6%3,142 W · 3,071 L+53.8wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa1f3…d99cbacked Cavaliers49c2,551$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,25048546.4%225 W · 260 L-14.6wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Hornets54c2,457$1,321 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,135.499,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xabf5…cfebbacked Hornets53c2,000$1,060 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$939.9848054.2%260 W · 220 L+14.0wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xa45d…b413backed Cavaliers45c1,762$793 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$79311653.4%62 W · 54 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1aa2…30ccbacked Cavaliers46c1,693$779 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77938946%179 W · 210 L-13.6wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-7.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x05e1…85a2backed Cavaliers47c1,064$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50032347.1%152 W · 171 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6bb3…758ebacked Cavaliers54c889.65$484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$483.5195651.5%492 W · 464 L+23.9wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x0c94…a43bbacked Cavaliers49c877.61$430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$430.0351146.6%238 W · 273 L-13.7wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-5.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Cavaliers46c813.13$370 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$370.432,34648.7%1,142 W · 1,204 L-14.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Cavaliers48c638.31$306 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$306.414,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x986c…dbc6backed Hornets51c586.08$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$286.0847651.7%246 W · 230 L-6.4wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-3.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb552…94a8backed Cavaliers47c560$263 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$263.22,07853.6%1,113 W · 965 L+44.6wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1d94…9100backed Cavaliers47c544.06$256 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$256.453,12044.7%1,394 W · 1,726 L-7.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x84db…aeebbacked Cavaliers49c510.2$250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2501,37450.1%689 W · 685 L+34.9wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x10d4…69ebbacked Hornets46c500$230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27062948.6%306 W · 323 L+4.2wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xeb22…808abacked Cavaliers45c500$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22595641.7%399 W · 557 L+1.6wins0.00per pick42cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x01c7…e995backed Cavaliers47c453.2$212 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$211.563,90247.8%1,864 W · 2,038 L-17.9wins0.00per pick48cpaid-1.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x79b0…ea3bbacked Cavaliers45c450$203 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$202.515154.3%82 W · 69 L+4.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4d84…21b1backed Cavaliers54c444$242 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$241.6866646.8%312 W · 354 L-29.6wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-11%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe649…4e37backed Cavaliers47c425.52$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$199.994746.8%22 W · 25 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-5.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7681…ac03backed Hornets33c366.33$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$246.4328929.4%85 W · 204 L-13.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-26.6%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x161a…4103backed Cavaliers66c364.87$239 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$239.032,46850.5%1,247 W · 1,221 L+38.4wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+0.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfc7c…3d8cbacked Hornets55c363.64$200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$163.643571.4%25 W · 10 L+6.9wins+0.20per pick52cpaid+36.3%equal weight63+0.11 edge/pick
0xdcc0…6872backed Cavaliers55c360$198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19821743.8%95 W · 122 L-14.2wins-0.07per pick50cpaid-11.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa6a8…5009backed Hornets59c336.73$198 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$138.443,99548.9%1,952 W · 2,043 L+101.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid-1.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf09f…8049backed Hornets56c300$168 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13266645.9%306 W · 360 L-11.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x44ca…907cbacked Cavaliers46c273.28$126 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$125.7145646.7%213 W · 243 L-0.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x691a…d113backed Cavaliers45c260$117 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11754443%234 W · 310 L-18.0wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-11.5%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xe88b…fa5abacked Cavaliers40c260$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10443246.1%199 W · 233 L-4.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x83a3…6292backed Hornets52c250.61$130 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$120.6181845.7%374 W · 444 L+9.2wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-3.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbc8c…d58cbacked Hornets56c214.29$120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$94.298043.8%35 W · 45 L-3.6wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-13%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x10b0…8525backed Hornets50c200$100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10084150.3%423 W · 418 L+0.8wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d55…7bc7backed Hornets53c199.99$106 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$93.9591148.1%438 W · 473 L-11.6wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9fe…e4bebacked Hornets55c195.8$108 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$88.115738.6%22 W · 35 L-3.7wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-18.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x1787…c311backed Hornets55c180$99 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$811,44458.1%839 W · 605 L+13.5wins+0.01per pick57cpaid+1.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc091…3d42backed Cavaliers56c167.99$94 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.0854351.6%280 W · 263 L-3.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-2.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf593…9553backed Cavaliers47c167.22$79 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$78.991,26445.8%579 W · 685 L-10.4wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4cb9…3783backed Cavaliers46c149.96$69 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.9864139%250 W · 391 L+2.6wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x46bd…37e8backed Cavaliers50c144$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7216837.5%63 W · 105 L-20.6wins-0.12per pick50cpaid-25%equal weight38-0.11 edge/pick
0xea78…a74ebacked Cavaliers45c139.68$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$62.8656547.8%270 W · 295 L+9.5wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x80cf…0ec7backed Cavaliers52c135$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.753141.9%13 W · 18 L-2.6wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-25.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x70f4…e2a5backed Cavaliers47c127.64$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$59.99333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.15per pick49cpaid-32%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd2d3…9af1backed Hornets56c123$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.1212642.1%53 W · 73 L-11.6wins-0.09per pick51cpaid-23.7%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Cavaliers50c118.23$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.731,63341.2%672 W · 961 L+26.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc285…e28fbacked Cavaliers47c118.15$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$55.741225%3 W · 9 L-1.7wins-0.14per pick39cpaid-36.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x350e…7528backed Cavaliers52c115.47$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$608636%31 W · 55 L-11.0wins-0.13per pick49cpaid-26.8%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x6008…a80bbacked Cavaliers45c111.11$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$502,60250.6%1,316 W · 1,286 L-20.7wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-1.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9e83…2a73backed Cavaliers47c107$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.29250%1 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-9.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0ee1…268bbacked Cavaliers48c104.17$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5053453.4%285 W · 249 L+19.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+6.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xecae…b906backed Hornets45c100$45 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5526339.5%104 W · 159 L-13.8wins-0.05per pick45cpaid-12.7%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x7be1…200ebacked Hornets55c92.73$51 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$41.7336449.7%181 W · 183 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-3.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xbff9…009dbacked Hornets54c92.7$50 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.727052.6%142 W · 128 L+4.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x82d0…60a1backed Cavaliers54c92.6$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5014643.8%64 W · 82 L-8.7wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-12.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x0a7c…8964backed Hornets53c90.29$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$42.4480653.6%432 W · 374 L+16.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7509…d031backed Cavaliers48c82.14$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39.4320847.1%98 W · 110 L-9.5wins-0.05per pick52cpaid-11.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd155…8250backed Hornets54c81.5$44 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37.7248852%254 W · 234 L+5.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa42a…d91fbacked Cavaliers50c78$39 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3962347.5%296 W · 327 L-17.3wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xdc86…7e77backed Hornets52c74.17$39 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35.4692750.6%469 W · 458 L-1.8wins0.00per pick51cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4aab…38ccbacked Hornets53c69.87$37 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$33.1653349.3%263 W · 270 L-28.8wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-11.2%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa33c…1b33backed Hornets54c63.23$34 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$29.0962844.9%282 W · 346 L-21.3wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.8%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x8b9d…9b0ebacked Hornets30c63$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$44.126824.6%66 W · 202 L-14.9wins-0.06per pick30cpaid-24.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8eb7…d529backed Cavaliers49c61.22$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3029351.9%152 W · 141 L+1.5wins0.00per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xfc8b…d3d6backed Cavaliers48c59.99$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$28.523845.4%108 W · 130 L-6.7wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x0f8c…686fbacked Cavaliers42c59.08$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25.072449.4%23 W · 221 L-27.5wins-0.11per pick21cpaid-72.3%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x05d3…c06abacked Hornets53c57.43$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$26.991,57353.4%840 W · 733 L-12.8wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4a86…d3e0backed Hornets53c54.96$29 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.983,28549.1%1,613 W · 1,672 L+5.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdc5b…f102backed Hornets52c53.85$28 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25.8590560.8%550 W · 355 L-2.1wins0.00per pick61cpaid-0.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbbe2…6158backed Hornets56c53.57$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.5733249.7%165 W · 167 L-2.9wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2b78…c6b5backed Cavaliers49c53.56$26 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$26.441,19748.9%585 W · 612 L-14.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-4.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Cavaliers48c51.79$25 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24.82,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf18a…e4e5backed Cavaliers55c50.91$28 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$283,55146.8%1,663 W · 1,888 L+1.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-6.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Hornets53c50$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.52,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x263c…3ef9backed Hornets37c50$19 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$31.53231.3%10 W · 22 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick35cpaid-12.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c38…fd63backed Hornets54c50$27 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2310069%69 W · 31 L+6.4wins+0.06per pick63cpaid+11.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xb3cf…0ebdbacked Cavaliers55c49.09$27 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$271,27138.3%487 W · 784 L-13.4wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb107…a3f8backed Hornets53c48.99$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.021,01851.6%525 W · 493 L+10.1wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa559…6dbbbacked Hornets51c48$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23.5288057.5%506 W · 374 L+34.6wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+2.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x8f28…1b16backed Hornets55c47.27$26 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21.2711250%56 W · 56 L-1.7wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc119…7d4dbacked Hornets42c47.26$20 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27.2617650%88 W · 88 L-0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Hornets52c47.08$24 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$22.61,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x43e0…132abacked Cavaliers52c45$23 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23.2513639.7%54 W · 82 L-6.3wins-0.05per pick44cpaid-12.8%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x3b7f…7aecbacked Cavaliers46c43.48$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2043647.9%209 W · 227 L+7.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6533…0f9cbacked Hornets54c40.74$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.7449358.6%289 W · 204 L+9.3wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+4.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbda3…ef65backed Hornets54c40$22 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18.437253.5%199 W · 173 L+9.5wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 23 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.