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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Spurs (-4.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Spursof Spurs, Trail Blazers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$195,560
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$235,003

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $195,560 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 181 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xa38a…821dbacked Trail Blazers57c23,793$13,565 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,564.6193148.4%451 W · 480 L+34.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid-2.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9495…9a27backed Trail Blazers47c18,260$8,579 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,578.969848.6%339 W · 359 L+0.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1ba1…1ce4backed Spurs52c11,748$6,109 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,639.336045%27 W · 33 L-4.2wins-0.07per pick52cpaid-13%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe169…4653backed Spurs51c10,783$5,499 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,283.4412450.8%63 W · 61 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb652…2db4backed Spurs51c10,000$5,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,899.9637627.9%105 W · 271 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick29cpaid+14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Trail Blazers47c9,911$4,617 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,617.284,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa2e3…fbb2backed Trail Blazers48c9,833$4,720 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,719.86825%2 W · 6 L-1.6wins-0.20per pick45cpaid-50.3%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xccf1…25a0backed Trail Blazers72c9,750$7,020 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,019.931,52249.6%755 W · 767 L+27.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1b4d…e246backed Trail Blazers49c9,045$4,432 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,431.8129650.3%149 W · 147 L+3.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x901f…74e9backed Spurs48c6,241$2,996 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,245.1310046%46 W · 54 L+3.9wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+27%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xaca2…b9a1backed Spurs52c5,829$3,031 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,79832846.6%153 W · 175 L-7.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-5.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8bb0…ca79backed Spurs53c5,542$2,915 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,627.815561.8%34 W · 21 L+6.7wins+0.12per pick50cpaid+21.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x6368…6dc8backed Spurs53c5,399$2,862 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,537.710352.4%54 W · 49 L-7.7wins-0.07per pick60cpaid-11.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xf28e…cab2backed Trail Blazers52c5,365$2,790 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,789.8756646.5%263 W · 303 L+16.2wins+0.03per pick44cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Spurs56c3,714$2,090 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,624.354,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2972…3f29backed Spurs52c3,661$1,904 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,757.53941%16 W · 23 L+1.1wins+0.03per pick38cpaid+24.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Trail Blazers49c3,621$1,762 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,762.021,28243.4%557 W · 725 L-51.2wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-12.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Spurs55c3,000$1,650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,3501,75240.6%712 W · 1,040 L-3.3wins0.00per pick41cpaid-5.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6a32…0086backed Spurs55c2,892$1,590 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,301.761,33251.2%682 W · 650 L+7.9wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3a51…b2b6backed Spurs52c2,848$1,491 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,357.2689853.1%477 W · 421 L+21.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5268…135dbacked Trail Blazers51c2,271$1,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,149.7955251.3%283 W · 269 L+17.3wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+5.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x255a…3435backed Spurs38c2,180$828 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,351.5761638.5%237 W · 379 L-8.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-6.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf410…ca73backed Spurs51c1,912$975 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$937.045352.8%28 W · 25 L+2.0wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+6.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe802…e465backed Spurs57c1,700$969 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$730.935945.8%27 W · 32 L-3.8wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-15.2%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9621…0a73backed Spurs54c1,531$827 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$704.097448.6%36 W · 38 L-5.2wins-0.07per pick56cpaid-14.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9c76…c926backed Trail Blazers45c1,500$675 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6752,65749.6%1,319 W · 1,338 L+42.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf83b…44a2backed Spurs50c1,300$650 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$65015246.7%71 W · 81 L+0.6wins0.00per pick46cpaid+1.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0d13…92f3backed Trail Blazers49c1,275$625 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$624.6370246.4%326 W · 376 L-20.4wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x004e…c650backed Spurs44c1,209$532 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$677.1818650%93 W · 93 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-1.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x52f9…ad24backed Spurs56c1,207$676 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$531.214452.3%23 W · 21 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x33bc…37dcbacked Trail Blazers49c1,202$587 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$587.1535049.4%173 W · 177 L+17.0wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+9.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x95b7…d633backed Trail Blazers42c1,100$462 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$46245146.1%208 W · 243 L-10.4wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7a5d…54dbbacked Spurs39c1,062$416 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$645.3968838.5%265 W · 423 L-26.5wins-0.04per pick42cpaid-14%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xae51…0d08backed Spurs47c1,030$484 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$545.95639.3%22 W · 34 L+0.2wins0.00per pick39cpaid-7.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4244…03a6backed Trail Blazers48c1,009$484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$484.418349.2%90 W · 93 L-0.5wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7634…600dbacked Spurs49c1,000$490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51028056.8%159 W · 121 L+22.2wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+50.6%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x05e1…85a2backed Spurs52c933.85$486 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.2532347.1%152 W · 171 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x40b4…1483backed Spurs52c933.85$486 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$448.2514045.7%64 W · 76 L-8.8wins-0.06per pick52cpaid-10.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xa6df…dda7backed Spurs59c930.61$548 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$382.1224247.1%114 W · 128 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc43c…e9e8backed Spurs52c927.55$482 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$445.223444.1%15 W · 19 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Trail Blazers47c898.46$423 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$422.71,90148.7%925 W · 976 L+6.5wins0.00per pick48cpaid+0.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x424e…263bbacked Trail Blazers47c880$418 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$417.862051.1%317 W · 303 L+14.7wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+6.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xb3cf…0ebdbacked Trail Blazers50c833.98$420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$419.891,27138.3%487 W · 784 L-13.4wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6277…5a3fbacked Trail Blazers45c806.64$363 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$362.612524%6 W · 19 L-5.0wins-0.20per pick44cpaid-43.7%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x6e31…da7fbacked Trail Blazers48c803.3$386 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$385.581250%6 W · 6 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x73f3…0d2cbacked Spurs50c800$400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4007054.3%38 W · 32 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+4.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16ea…9400backed Trail Blazers46c777.97$357 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$356.661,32249.9%660 W · 662 L+13.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52d9…fb1abacked Trail Blazers46c760.91$353 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$353.4332045.3%145 W · 175 L-7.9wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Trail Blazers45c686.2$309 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$308.792,50748.6%1,219 W · 1,288 L+19.8wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6dd9…bfe8backed Spurs56c598.03$335 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$263.1465762.3%409 W · 248 L+27.9wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+5.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x0c99…0c88backed Spurs43c588.84$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$338.082,40043.6%1,046 W · 1,354 L-82.9wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xcada…f2a3backed Spurs52c560.3$291 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$268.952352.2%12 W · 11 L+2.2wins+0.10per pick42cpaid+15.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xbddf…c684backed Trail Blazers43c521.05$224 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$224.0572648.3%351 W · 375 L+30.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xe479…70dfbacked Spurs38c506.74$193 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$314.182454.2%13 W · 11 L+2.5wins+0.10per pick44cpaid+15%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcea6…67adbacked Spurs50c500$250 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$25028448.2%137 W · 147 L-2.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Spurs80c478.48$383 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$95.72,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xffac…ffa9backed Spurs54c464.01$251 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$213.451346.2%6 W · 7 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick44cpaid-8.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x0351…ab88backed Trail Blazers44c422.69$186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$185.981127.3%3 W · 8 L-2.0wins-0.19per pick46cpaid-41%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x32f1…c96ebacked Spurs45c298.29$134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$164.0611757.3%67 W · 50 L+9.6wins+0.08per pick49cpaid+21.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x8532…738bbacked Spurs52c291.36$152 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$139.8532450.3%163 W · 161 L-0.7wins0.00per pick51cpaid-1.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0b2c…dac5backed Spurs52c291.36$152 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$139.8542348.5%205 W · 218 L-9.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-5.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xcf9d…3ea9backed Spurs70c280.57$196 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$84.174358.1%25 W · 18 L-0.3wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-3.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2fe…8d65backed Spurs54c270.11$146 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$124.252152.4%11 W · 10 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid+0.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xce2b…08fabacked Spurs47c247.8$116 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$131.6219951.8%103 W · 96 L-3.8wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdcd4…c870backed Spurs55c227.31$125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$102.292339.1%9 W · 14 L-2.5wins-0.11per pick50cpaid-30.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x3fcb…f5ebbacked Spurs44c219.64$97 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$12336248.1%174 W · 188 L+6.8wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-1.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xacc9…c790backed Trail Blazers42c218.38$92 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$91.7214731.3%46 W · 101 L-4.8wins-0.03per pick35cpaid-20.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Trail Blazers44c204.16$89 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$89.451,63341.2%672 W · 961 L+26.3wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Trail Blazers54c194.23$105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.0389850.9%457 W · 441 L+19.2wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3b5f…7b99backed Trail Blazers50c194.06$98 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$97.9638242.9%164 W · 218 L-11.5wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x91d9…13f4backed Spurs46c157.76$73 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$85.192347.8%11 W · 12 L-0.9wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x67d3…b524backed Spurs52c150.16$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72.489446.8%44 W · 50 L+2.0wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd3e7…bf64backed Spurs52c150$78 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7256043.9%246 W · 314 L-31.2wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-9.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe0a2…40d5backed Trail Blazers48c141.28$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.8221943.4%95 W · 124 L-12.7wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-11.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x8d46…3248backed Trail Blazers74c140.54$104 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1044746.8%22 W · 25 L+6.5wins+0.14per pick33cpaid+81.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x7291…3d0fbacked Spurs53c136.6$72 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$64.497945.6%36 W · 43 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6941…d614backed Spurs52c132.4$69 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63.164450%22 W · 22 L+1.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-7.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x38fa…87b5backed Spurs58c129.46$75 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.433632.4%109 W · 227 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick32cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5d1d…afd2backed Trail Blazers44c127.37$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.0463746.6%297 W · 340 L-16.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3982…2befbacked Trail Blazers44c127.37$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.0437647.3%178 W · 198 L-7.4wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Trail Blazers44c127.37$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.0458953.7%316 W · 273 L+15.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc75b…3ea7backed Trail Blazers44c127.37$56 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56.0423445.7%107 W · 127 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7a2e…3ef0backed Spurs56c122.59$68 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.1126345.6%120 W · 143 L-5.3wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-8.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xfc83…ee1ebacked Spurs53c119.18$63 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$56.021947.4%9 W · 10 L-1.5wins-0.08per pick55cpaid-14.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x2ce1…a25dbacked Spurs53c116.62$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$54.818555.3%47 W · 38 L+2.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5782…8ce5backed Spurs52c116.54$61 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$55.949652.1%50 W · 46 L+0.2wins0.00per pick52cpaid+3.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Trail Blazers44c113.64$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$501,28650.8%653 W · 633 L+11.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa623…a4febacked Spurs56c111.82$62 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.3445251.1%231 W · 221 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc0ff…9953backed Spurs52c109.92$57 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.7611864.4%76 W · 42 L+15.6wins+0.13per pick51cpaid+25.2%equal weight62+0.11 edge/pick
0xf46b…c51dbacked Trail Blazers44c109.82$48 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48.3244347.2%209 W · 234 L-7.8wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-3.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3846…029abacked Spurs27c109.62$30 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$79.724136.6%15 W · 26 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick32cpaid+23%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4bf8…2f4abacked Spurs33c109.49$36 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$73.361020%2 W · 8 L+0.4wins+0.04per pick16cpaid+1.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9069…9c14backed Spurs54c108.04$58 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.714557.2%83 W · 62 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+3.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0d36…f4cbbacked Trail Blazers44c107.38$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.259346.2%43 W · 50 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick44cpaid+6.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x4a7d…695fbacked Spurs56c106.99$59 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$47.618748.3%42 W · 45 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick49cpaid+7.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc61d…3933backed Spurs46c105.66$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57.2817047.6%81 W · 89 L-2.3wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x49ec…ac1cbacked Spurs52c103.94$54 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$49.4724044.6%107 W · 133 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb9ff…f4fabacked Spurs48c100.59$48 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$52.31366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.20per pick47cpaid+53%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbf4f…f538backed Spurs70c100$70 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$307339.7%29 W · 44 L+3.0wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+0.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x322e…308ebacked Spurs40c100$40 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$603240.6%13 W · 19 L-2.3wins-0.07per pick48cpaid-15.9%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 18 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.