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NBA · resolved market

Magic vs. Jazz

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Magicof Magic, Jazz
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,735,244
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,718,157

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,735,244 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 675 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xbda3…cab2backed Jazz28c295,320$82,642 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82,641.85520%1 W · 4 L-1.2wins-0.25per pick45cpaid-60.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xcd9b…414dbacked Jazz30c181,557$54,135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54,135.4951844.4%230 W · 288 L+11.0wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+8.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xbddf…c684backed Magic72c125,555$90,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$35,155.472648.3%351 W · 375 L+30.5wins+0.04per pick44cpaid+11%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x4335…fc2fbacked Magic73c80,000$58,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,599.9817354.3%94 W · 79 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x507e…beaebacked Magic78c70,768$54,985 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,782.275,05350.9%2,570 W · 2,483 L+110.9wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+2.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x16b2…a881backed Magic72c69,375$50,012 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,363.062,29851.7%1,188 W · 1,110 L+65.4wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0d16…d24dbacked Magic71c68,965$48,965 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,999.988961.8%55 W · 34 L+0.4wins0.00per pick61cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Jazz14c47,002$6,656 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,655.581,34129.9%401 W · 940 L-53.8wins-0.04per pick34cpaid-35.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xee61…debfbacked Magic71c40,425$28,825 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,599.569,72249.4%4,805 W · 4,917 L-2.8wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xb2e4…bc51backed Jazz28c36,125$10,135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,13521944.7%98 W · 121 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick45cpaid+0.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Magic72c30,000$21,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,40038248.7%186 W · 196 L+13.9wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+0.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x0f16…0246backed Jazz23c29,329$6,786 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,785.8138649.5%191 W · 195 L+11.9wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+4.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc62a…c2c7backed Magic73c27,000$19,710 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,2903063.3%19 W · 11 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick66cpaid-3.9%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Magic72c24,000$17,230 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,769.984,32547%2,031 W · 2,294 L-69.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf5f2…0234backed Magic72c21,974$15,821 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,152.7217658%102 W · 74 L+13.5wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+15.8%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked Magic75c20,269$15,255 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,013.973,59150.1%1,798 W · 1,793 L+21.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe90b…5da2backed Jazz23c19,286$4,440 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,440.321,04549%512 W · 533 L+21.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid-7.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb230…4193backed Jazz28c14,953$4,187 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,186.7719351.3%99 W · 94 L-0.3wins0.00per pick51cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xddc0…a8a0backed Jazz16c14,900$2,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,4001010%1 W · 9 L+0.2wins+0.02per pick8cpaid-35.8%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xe20a…e469backed Magic73c14,555$10,580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,975.432,36148.1%1,136 W · 1,225 L-41.8wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Jazz16c13,205$2,068 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,067.571,19032%381 W · 809 L-58.1wins-0.05per pick37cpaid-34.4%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9489backed Jazz23c12,951$2,984 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,983.64,87848%2,341 W · 2,537 L+61.9wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x01b4…372ebacked Jazz1c12,000$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12029810.4%31 W · 267 L+22.5wins+0.08per pick3cpaid+230.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xbce9…03e9backed Jazz1c11,444$70 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$69.968820%0 W · 882 L-6.7wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2ada…2f28backed Jazz2c11,261$225 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$225.2364517.1%110 W · 535 L-11.9wins-0.02per pick19cpaid-44.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe9cb…d096backed Jazz18c11,159$1,984 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,984.171,00334.7%348 W · 655 L-44.7wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-35.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x5b8e…5c3cbacked Magic72c11,153$7,993 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,160.3344459.7%265 W · 179 L+12.4wins+0.03per pick57cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x1455…e5cdbacked Magic73c10,177$7,413 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,763.781,90854.5%1,040 W · 868 L+53.7wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+5.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb092…449dbacked Jazz5c10,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.7610%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6ee…697bbacked Jazz28c9,660$2,679 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,67920352.2%106 W · 97 L+6.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+4.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9f13…e0fdbacked Magic71c9,419$6,684 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,734.2372450.7%367 W · 357 L+13.1wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa25…05e8backed Jazz31c9,000$2,748 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,747.696352.4%33 W · 30 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick54cpaid+3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9ecb…a693backed Jazz1c8,999$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$110.23348.8%3 W · 31 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick11cpaid-16.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x6b7c…5f83backed Magic76c8,731$6,611 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,120.053,34243.4%1,450 W · 1,892 L+81.2wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-0.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xff80…9b4dbacked Jazz4c8,317$374 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$374.1913442.5%57 W · 77 L+2.3wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-16.4%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9f05…8937backed Jazz27c7,807$2,135 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,134.9447028.1%132 W · 338 L+27.2wins+0.06per pick22cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked Jazz17c7,249$1,210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,209.761,09640.9%448 W · 648 L+34.3wins+0.03per pick38cpaid-17%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Magic48c7,083$3,365 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,717.4389444.4%397 W · 497 L+8.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-9.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2c70…232abacked Jazz31c7,066$2,188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,1885337.7%20 W · 33 L+4.2wins+0.08per pick30cpaid+26%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5caa…953fbacked Magic70c6,683$4,674 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,008.221968.4%13 W · 6 L+4.3wins+0.22per pick46cpaid+55.7%equal weight61+0.10 edge/pick
0xb0b5…316bbacked Jazz12c6,503$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7502934.5%10 W · 19 L+3.7wins+0.13per pick22cpaid+49.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x817b…3c25backed Jazz28c6,500$1,815 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,814.971,04841.1%431 W · 617 L+23.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x161e…6ef0backed Magic60c6,284$3,764 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,520.435664.3%36 W · 20 L+4.2wins+0.08per pick57cpaid+3.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xee14…8055backed Magic71c6,156$4,360 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,79618453.3%98 W · 86 L+7.9wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+5.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Jazz28c6,150$1,722 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,7221,78228%499 W · 1,283 L+11.5wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xb900…fe44backed Jazz28c6,000$1,710 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,7101361.5%8 W · 5 L+3.0wins+0.23per pick38cpaid+63.4%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x9daa…5fb4backed Jazz2c5,903$142 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$141.673033.3%10 W · 20 L-1.6wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-42.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4c03…0cc1backed Jazz2c5,385$108 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107.711,60211.8%189 W · 1,413 L-4.8wins0.00per pick12cpaid-6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0155…a6ffbacked Jazz10c4,992$509 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$508.983528.6%10 W · 25 L+2.8wins+0.08per pick20cpaid+30.7%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xfaa0…4b30backed Magic69c4,983$3,441 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,541.39728.6%2 W · 5 L-1.5wins-0.21per pick50cpaid-37.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x9731…9b35backed Jazz28c4,432$1,242 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,241.982,51249.1%1,234 W · 1,278 L+6.9wins0.00per pick49cpaid+1.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x371a…34b0backed Jazz1c4,275$40 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40.51,0351.1%11 W · 1,024 L-24.4wins-0.02per pick3cpaid-90.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x9dd9…08bdbacked Jazz22c4,142$896 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$895.651,11341.6%463 W · 650 L-10.0wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-17.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Jazz22c3,868$860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$859.531,22637.4%458 W · 768 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-21.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x741d…88babacked Jazz28c3,500$980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$979.99425%1 W · 3 L-0.8wins-0.19per pick44cpaid-2.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfefb…4b5dbacked Magic66c3,468$2,273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,195.0881529.4%240 W · 575 L-37.0wins-0.05per pick34cpaid-43%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed Jazz19c3,468$664 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$663.8238434.9%134 W · 250 L+7.0wins+0.02per pick33cpaid+12.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb45d…a406backed Jazz11c3,369$375 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$374.5627917.9%50 W · 229 L-2.2wins-0.01per pick19cpaid-44.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb786…b18dbacked Magic72c3,322$2,392 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$929.981,31650.5%664 W · 652 L+42.4wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-0.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcd3a…67cabacked Jazz26c3,170$839 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$838.9550838.2%194 W · 314 L+22.3wins+0.04per pick34cpaid+1.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf33d…c852backed Jazz29c3,000$880 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8803933.3%13 W · 26 L+2.8wins+0.07per pick26cpaid+35.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x481b…74c1backed Jazz65c2,998$1,955 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,954.5748046%221 W · 259 L+3.3wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-9.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x79cb…331ebacked Jazz2c2,792$63 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$63.298783%26 W · 852 L-22.3wins-0.03per pick5cpaid-62%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7bd8…aeabbacked Magic71c2,724$1,944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$779.6330947.6%147 W · 162 L-0.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xbf51…4a30backed Jazz28c2,679$750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$75076746.4%356 W · 411 L-16.7wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-3.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x06c4…f726backed Jazz16c2,674$437 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$436.923721.6%8 W · 29 L-1.1wins-0.03per pick25cpaid-39.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa9d1…4660backed Jazz6c2,592$153 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$152.7639018.2%71 W · 319 L+27.6wins+0.07per pick11cpaid+62.4%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xc5b5…7e80backed Magic48c2,536$1,227 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,309.271,05549.9%526 W · 529 L+29.7wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5487…a014backed Magic72c2,500$1,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7001,66752.7%878 W · 789 L+45.5wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2509…e4dbbacked Jazz25c2,488$633 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$632.9866744.5%297 W · 370 L-6.5wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-2.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6dae…4688backed Magic71c2,401$1,705 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$696.414961.2%30 W · 19 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick58cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed Magic71c2,400$1,714 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$685.786641.5%359 W · 507 L-2.2wins0.00per pick42cpaid-1.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x89f3…dfffbacked Jazz23c2,362$539 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$539.3134227.2%93 W · 249 L-8.4wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-17.1%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xd696…8a49backed Magic70c2,306$1,614 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$691.821,21248.3%586 W · 626 L-20.4wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-4.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x5a0c…9db8backed Jazz28c2,238$625 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$624.6221538.1%82 W · 133 L+7.6wins+0.04per pick35cpaid+20.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1033…d851backed Jazz45c2,226$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00027443.1%118 W · 156 L-0.8wins0.00per pick43cpaid+6.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9e2f…ec47backed Jazz27c2,222$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$599.9374748.5%362 W · 385 L+8.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe83c…5e8fbacked Magic71c2,201$1,563 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$638.381,45149.7%721 W · 730 L+18.0wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x38fa…87b5backed Jazz5c2,185$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10033632.4%109 W · 227 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick32cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x57a8…6933backed Magic73c2,071$1,512 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.2992753.5%496 W · 431 L+20.1wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+3.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe542…0a37backed Jazz3c2,000$54 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54.2440133.4%134 W · 267 L+27.0wins+0.07per pick27cpaid+20.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x019e…af1dbacked Magic71c2,000$1,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5806958%40 W · 29 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-0.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x60b2…3ccebacked Jazz27c2,000$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5404035%14 W · 26 L-3.9wins-0.10per pick45cpaid-17.3%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xec9f…c3fbbacked Jazz28c2,000$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5601233.3%4 W · 8 L+0.1wins+0.01per pick33cpaid-4.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a7e…fce4backed Jazz27c2,000$540 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$54061835.4%219 W · 399 L+7.8wins+0.01per pick34cpaid+6.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdc0d…8bcabacked Jazz28c1,882$534 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$534.2416532.7%54 W · 111 L+2.9wins+0.02per pick31cpaid+7.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x1733…1e15backed Magic71c1,867$1,326 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$541.431,15747.9%554 W · 603 L-19.9wins-0.02per pick50cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa07c…11a0backed Jazz27c1,852$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50018140.3%73 W · 108 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick39cpaid+11.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Magic72c1,846$1,329 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$516.9826753.2%142 W · 125 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x708d…8a09backed Jazz25c1,836$451 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45121923.7%52 W · 167 L+0.5wins0.00per pick24cpaid-13.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x033e…1bb9backed Jazz29c1,831$539 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53925146.2%116 W · 135 L+9.9wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+6.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x019d…2b01backed Jazz39c1,813$703 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$703.2429037.9%110 W · 180 L-1.5wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-4.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xe60a…6a47backed Jazz29c1,759$515 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$515.172,09147.8%1,000 W · 1,091 L-56.6wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-4.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x3f08…ed44backed Magic62c1,729$1,078 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$650.5139744.3%176 W · 221 L+3.0wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-19.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9f86…2874backed Jazz23c1,683$387 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$387425%1 W · 3 L0.0wins+0.01per pick24cpaid-24.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5375…aeeabacked Jazz36c1,657$591 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$591.4685742.6%365 W · 492 L-15.6wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-13.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd24d…3ab5backed Magic72c1,640$1,181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$459.116053.3%32 W · 28 L-2.8wins-0.05per pick58cpaid-10.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x7cf0…3156backed Jazz35c1,614$569 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$56950338.4%193 W · 310 L-5.4wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4a14…1100backed Jazz17c1,613$279 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.333721.6%8 W · 29 L-5.5wins-0.15per pick36cpaid-47.5%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xaeb5…58e2backed Jazz17c1,602$268 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$268.41,09035.8%390 W · 700 L+40.1wins+0.04per pick32cpaid+5.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 15 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.