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Lol · resolved market

LoL: LYON vs LOUD - Game 3 Winner

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
LYONof LYON, LOUD
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$708,204
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$808,252

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $708,204 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 473 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xf353…b287backed LOUD0c32,000$32 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3223915.9%38 W · 201 L+10.3wins+0.04per pick12cpaid+53.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked LYON72c23,392$16,833 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,559.4790348.4%437 W · 466 L+14.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x18bb…e5cdbacked LOUD23c22,992$5,198 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,198.2831328.8%90 W · 223 L+15.2wins+0.05per pick24cpaid+16.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xafd4…7e61backed LYON73c20,311$14,746 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,565.261,20054.1%649 W · 551 L+28.9wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+3.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x14ac…cb21backed LOUD34c17,775$6,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,001.5125446.1%117 W · 137 L-6.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid+2.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd812…2558backed LOUD27c16,121$4,358 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,358.1821137%78 W · 133 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3f97…4059backed LOUD28c12,654$3,606 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,606.141,15649.1%568 W · 588 L-17.3wins-0.01per pick51cpaid+0.6%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xb5b7…7ffabacked LOUD28c12,424$3,538 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,537.614835.1%52 W · 96 L-9.3wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-19.9%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked LOUD23c11,280$2,575 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,575.321,59234%541 W · 1,051 L-79.3wins-0.05per pick39cpaid-32.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x410d…d831backed LOUD26c10,460$2,699 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,698.6622624.8%56 W · 170 L-15.6wins-0.07per pick32cpaid-14.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x11e5…337ebacked LYON73c10,000$7,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,7004151.2%21 W · 20 L-1.7wins-0.04per pick55cpaid-8.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x9c30…54a2backed LYON72c9,722$7,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,722.332254.5%12 W · 10 L-2.0wins-0.09per pick63cpaid+1.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xdcfe…44b5backed LYON70c9,455$6,619 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,836.6431153.4%166 W · 145 L-9.4wins-0.03per pick56cpaid-8.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x437c…f458backed LYON78c9,168$7,126 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,042.7526246.6%122 W · 140 L-5.6wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-7.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7d78…29a5backed LYON75c9,119$6,839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,279.78651.2%44 W · 42 L-4.2wins-0.05per pick56cpaid-10.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xe3aa…1485backed LOUD27c8,598$2,298 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,297.7511645.7%53 W · 63 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid+12.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52ec…a6f3backed LOUD27c8,189$2,192 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,191.7681143.5%353 W · 458 L+30.0wins+0.04per pick40cpaid-7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7600…4478backed LYON64c8,000$5,120 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,879.9931036.1%112 W · 198 L-18.3wins-0.06per pick42cpaid-17.8%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xbc67…5286backed LYON62c7,455$4,654 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,800.8369756.5%394 W · 303 L+26.1wins+0.04per pick53cpaid-0.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb100…6461backed LOUD24c7,171$1,702 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,702.36453.1%34 W · 30 L+2.8wins+0.04per pick49cpaid-2.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3b63…4acdbacked LOUD29c6,833$1,980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,979.927447.8%131 W · 143 L+5.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x54b5…4b31backed LYON71c6,776$4,783 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,993.1511744.4%52 W · 65 L-7.1wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-29.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x1bdd…23dcbacked LYON68c6,480$4,406 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,073.917163.2%108 W · 63 L+18.6wins+0.11per pick52cpaid+19.8%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0xb7b3…9573backed LOUD28c6,320$1,799 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,798.81,80639.1%707 W · 1,099 L-30.8wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-12%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9a7f…4b5dbacked LOUD30c6,084$1,825 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,825.1332350.8%164 W · 159 L-9.0wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-11%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7bd8…a879backed LYON70c6,018$4,202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,815.4921028.1%59 W · 151 L-10.1wins-0.05per pick33cpaid-24.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x17f1…af18backed LOUD6c5,999$331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$331.073775.6%21 W · 356 L+4.0wins+0.01per pick5cpaid-0.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5809…9868backed LOUD26c5,668$1,484 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,483.9397427.8%271 W · 703 L-23.1wins-0.02per pick30cpaid-28.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2652…2a1dbacked LYON72c5,601$4,052 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,548.8159952.8%316 W · 283 L-3.0wins0.00per pick53cpaid-12.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x3a09…f9f7backed LYON71c5,519$3,944 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,574.221,59253.7%855 W · 737 L+57.2wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x7a46…ab25backed LOUD29c4,778$1,366 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,366.178944.9%40 W · 49 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-16.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf030…12e2backed LYON70c4,728$3,306 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,422.0313371.4%95 W · 38 L+23.5wins+0.18per pick54cpaid+21.9%equal weight67+0.15 edge/pick
0x1196…fe97backed LOUD27c4,721$1,275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,274.6723020%46 W · 184 L-17.8wins-0.08per pick28cpaid-36.8%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x5aa9…febebacked LOUD43c4,669$2,016 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,015.511,15842.6%493 W · 665 L-23.9wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-20.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2aad…88d4backed LOUD22c4,661$1,046 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,046.2928827.4%79 W · 209 L-30.6wins-0.11per pick38cpaid-33.3%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x14a0…22bbbacked LYON70c4,598$3,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,358.451,15568.1%786 W · 369 L+35.1wins+0.03per pick65cpaid+3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x182d…73e9backed LYON73c4,464$3,254 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,209.821,06747%502 W · 565 L+3.2wins0.00per pick47cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x51db…f9b3backed LOUD32c4,387$1,398 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,397.742,90338.5%1,119 W · 1,784 L-117.3wins-0.04per pick43cpaid-27%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x4448…0c03backed LOUD29c4,337$1,255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,254.512650%13 W · 13 L-0.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid+1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked LYON67c4,232$2,834 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,397.991,00342.5%426 W · 577 L-24.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-19.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xdbdd…a5debacked LOUD27c4,131$1,127 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,126.522,82041.4%1,167 W · 1,653 L-14.5wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-4.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8d36…68fdbacked LYON74c3,589$2,673 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$915.4425751%131 W · 126 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf4f0…6718backed LYON64c3,510$2,238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,271.287169%49 W · 22 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick67cpaid+0.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe2c9…a644backed LYON74c3,507$2,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$907.581668.8%11 W · 5 L+0.3wins+0.02per pick67cpaid-3.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2e8e…58d3backed LOUD40c3,399$1,356 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,356.431838.9%7 W · 11 L-2.5wins-0.14per pick53cpaid-42.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xce6d…6130backed LOUD31c3,333$1,033 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,033.2314757.1%84 W · 63 L+2.5wins+0.02per pick55cpaid-5.9%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x6260…fccbbacked LOUD20c3,288$661 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$660.626297%44 W · 585 L-2.2wins0.00per pick7cpaid-33.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xceee…f649backed LYON67c3,275$2,208 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,067.025100%5 W · 0 L+1.6wins+0.33per pick67cpaid+52.6%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xad72…4f5ebacked LOUD27c3,215$865 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$864.575942%319 W · 440 L+5.2wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xec98…afcdbacked LYON64c3,152$2,017 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,135.031,59842.4%677 W · 921 L-17.9wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-14.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc3b8…b4d8backed LOUD32c3,143$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,000.1943151.3%221 W · 210 L-5.0wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x92d8…0924backed LOUD29c3,140$901 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$900.8823439.7%93 W · 141 L-6.2wins-0.03per pick42cpaid-5.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x8c0b…7aa5backed LYON60c3,080$1,843 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,237.041,63040.1%654 W · 976 L+48.3wins+0.03per pick37cpaid-1.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x71c0…13b5backed LYON73c3,072$2,229 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$843.0421954.3%119 W · 100 L+5.2wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd7cf…a603backed LYON70c3,002$2,101 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$900.64864.6%31 W · 17 L+0.1wins0.00per pick64cpaid-4.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5124…91bbbacked LYON70c3,000$2,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$90013040.8%53 W · 77 L-0.9wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-7.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd9a5…c602backed LOUD21c2,888$596 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$596.3829927.8%83 W · 216 L-0.2wins0.00per pick28cpaid-23%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2d05…6f11backed LYON74c2,800$2,072 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$727.9910044%44 W · 56 L-3.0wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-6.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe3d4…2bacbacked LYON74c2,629$1,945 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$683.9670162.2%436 W · 265 L-37.3wins-0.05per pick68cpaid-8.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x2a8c…fd3dbacked LOUD30c2,417$725 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$72575630%227 W · 529 L-21.4wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-15.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe922…39b3backed LYON71c2,377$1,699 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$677.531,30555.9%729 W · 576 L+44.4wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+7.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x7a0f…1305backed LYON73c2,367$1,721 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$646.131,46361.4%899 W · 564 L-19.5wins-0.01per pick63cpaid-2.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc5e4…d4b6backed LYON77c2,290$1,756 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$534.193663.9%23 W · 13 L+2.8wins+0.08per pick56cpaid-1.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd6a3…9738backed LOUD33c2,190$732 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$731.6560053.2%319 W · 281 L+15.3wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5b10…9659backed LYON70c2,136$1,495 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$640.771,43557.4%824 W · 611 L+36.0wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+5.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x84d7…298fbacked LOUD27c2,080$555 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$554.6514238%54 W · 88 L+4.1wins+0.03per pick35cpaid-8.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcd01…d5acbacked LYON71c2,042$1,450 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$592.2524858.1%144 W · 104 L+6.8wins+0.03per pick55cpaid+2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xc110…f3eabacked LOUD21c2,030$429 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4296759.7%40 W · 27 L+1.2wins+0.02per pick58cpaid+5.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x8ced…0feebacked LYON73c2,028$1,481 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$547.676955%423 W · 346 L-13.9wins-0.02per pick57cpaid-4.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xa1bf…f357backed LOUD29c2,010$583 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$582.911340.7%46 W · 67 L-12.4wins-0.11per pick52cpaid-27.1%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x63f9…4723backed LYON75c2,009$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$508.732665.4%17 W · 9 L+0.9wins+0.04per pick62cpaid+20.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb9ab…f282backed LYON72c2,000$1,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5601,02952.3%538 W · 491 L+27.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+6.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2e9e…d6d3backed LOUD28c2,000$560 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$560966.7%6 W · 3 L+2.2wins+0.24per pick43cpaid+26.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x7714…b814backed LYON72c2,000$1,440 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$559.9954756.9%311 W · 236 L+5.8wins+0.01per pick56cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa941…ec2ebacked LYON72c1,979$1,425 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$554.7451160.3%308 W · 203 L-7.7wins-0.02per pick62cpaid-1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7df6…ac3bbacked LOUD5c1,915$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100.212022.5%27 W · 93 L-4.3wins-0.04per pick26cpaid-40.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xa97f…a818backed LOUD27c1,900$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$51332844.2%145 W · 183 L+11.0wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+11.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xec0e…672cbacked LOUD34c1,871$642 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$642.0753640.3%216 W · 320 L-8.1wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-19.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xf21d…922bbacked LOUD27c1,852$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50035457.9%205 W · 149 L-2.5wins-0.01per pick59cpaid-0.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x36f2…4ca4backed LOUD54c1,852$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,00015062%93 W · 57 L+0.9wins+0.01per pick61cpaid+1.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc8f0…981bbacked LYON74c1,820$1,338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$481.821100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.26per pick74cpaid+36%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd3b0…329ebacked LYON71c1,800$1,278 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5222,00458.2%1,166 W · 838 L+86.9wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+9.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x2757…55f0backed LOUD27c1,727$460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$460.210738.3%41 W · 66 L-2.1wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-10.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd12d…f0dbbacked LYON71c1,695$1,200 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$494.875468.5%37 W · 17 L+4.4wins+0.08per pick60cpaid+19.1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xfd96…e623backed LOUD23c1,679$389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.6739851.8%206 W · 192 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4f2f…552cbacked LYON75c1,659$1,252 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$406.7716349.7%81 W · 82 L-3.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-16.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xce53…e5babacked LYON67c1,633$1,087 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$545.93470.6%24 W · 10 L+5.1wins+0.15per pick56cpaid+24.7%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x4c67…9896backed LOUD26c1,600$418 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$417.650646%233 W · 273 L+2.5wins0.00per pick46cpaid-5%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xce08…510bbacked LYON71c1,568$1,113 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$454.991,21254.5%660 W · 552 L+52.0wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x1064…f153backed LYON71c1,510$1,072 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$437.949549.1%243 W · 252 L+9.2wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+1.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa469…0782backed LYON73c1,500$1,095 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4051,32253.2%703 W · 619 L+36.2wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+4.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xde0c…a715backed LYON71c1,500$1,065 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$43525269.8%176 W · 76 L+13.7wins+0.05per pick64cpaid+5.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x2aa1…c691backed LOUD38c1,500$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$57019839.9%79 W · 119 L-8.8wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-10.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xb17a…c30dbacked LOUD25c1,471$362 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$361.744445.5%20 W · 24 L+1.8wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+48.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x7af0…509dbacked LYON71c1,399$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$398.6725268.3%172 W · 80 L+14.5wins+0.06per pick63cpaid+9.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x5d9b…a5ebbacked LYON42c1,377$578 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$798.445928.8%17 W · 42 L-5.7wins-0.10per pick38cpaid-34.8%equal weight43-0.07 edge/pick
0x7b75…3fd1backed LOUD18c1,325$244 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$243.5694134.5%325 W · 616 L+33.6wins+0.04per pick31cpaid-1.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xdc5a…bf71backed LOUD34c1,323$453 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$453.0718041.7%75 W · 105 L+0.8wins0.00per pick41cpaid-9.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1bcb…b05abacked LYON65c1,307$853 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$454.3623751.5%122 W · 115 L+11.7wins+0.05per pick47cpaid+4.8%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x16db…ac64backed LOUD30c1,256$377 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$376.8224323%56 W · 187 L-6.3wins-0.03per pick26cpaid-6.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 11 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.