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NHL · resolved market

Lightning vs. Canadiens

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Lightningof Lightning, Canadiens
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NHLevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$890,087
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$964,640

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $890,087 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 731 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NHL is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NHL
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x5bec…b215backed Lightning52c242,659$127,374 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$115,285.1816442.7%70 W · 94 L-3.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-6.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc807…c12bbacked Lightning52c95,000$49,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$45,6006352.4%33 W · 30 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick54cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x03e8…1697backed Canadiens48c93,687$44,954 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$44,954.4867051%342 W · 328 L+9.3wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Canadiens47c90,255$42,420 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$42,419.9440351.9%209 W · 194 L+6.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid-2.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x47a8…52f9backed Canadiens48c90,000$43,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$43,199.927545.3%34 W · 41 L-3.8wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-15.4%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xa710…23c4backed Lightning51c76,132$38,827 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$37,304.4715054.7%82 W · 68 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-0.1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x6a72…33eebacked Lightning51c50,810$25,876 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24,934.061,34554.8%737 W · 608 L+21.0wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7a88…41ccbacked Canadiens49c48,118$23,736 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$23,736.497038.6%27 W · 43 L-3.9wins-0.06per pick44cpaid-14.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xef50…e3bdbacked Lightning52c37,183$19,335 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$17,847.691250%6 W · 6 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick52cpaid-1%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xd3df…82fabacked Canadiens48c32,396$15,653 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,652.512839.3%11 W · 17 L-0.9wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-27.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xdd92…6b2abacked Canadiens48c29,999$14,400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,399.7214650.7%74 W · 72 L+8.5wins+0.06per pick45cpaid+13.1%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xf5e1…5ad0backed Canadiens48c16,906$8,087 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,087.1133151.7%171 W · 160 L+9.0wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+7.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf152…64aabacked Canadiens48c15,000$7,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,20016656.6%94 W · 72 L+2.7wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x9976…67dabacked Lightning53c14,787$7,837 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,949.8919848.5%96 W · 102 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+2.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc660…bd28backed Canadiens47c14,630$6,876 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,876.148549.7%241 W · 244 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Canadiens47c13,689$6,402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,401.761,89152.4%991 W · 900 L+36.3wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xaff3…6eccbacked Canadiens34c12,372$4,208 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,207.6622250%111 W · 111 L-1.1wins0.00per pick50cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd344…6862backed Canadiens49c12,204$5,980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,979.973551.4%18 W · 17 L+2.8wins+0.08per pick43cpaid+13.9%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe5f0…dc1dbacked Lightning52c12,000$6,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,76041842.8%179 W · 239 L-5.3wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-1.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x92b5…fec6backed Canadiens49c10,204$5,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,0002236.4%8 W · 14 L-1.4wins-0.06per pick43cpaid-10.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xacb2…b989backed Canadiens48c10,000$4,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,80012950.4%65 W · 64 L+10.7wins+0.08per pick42cpaid+13.3%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0e64…336dbacked Canadiens49c10,000$4,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,90010%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1f24…05efbacked Canadiens48c10,000$4,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,8001838.9%7 W · 11 L+0.8wins+0.05per pick34cpaid-13.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x01a5…312ebacked Canadiens48c9,928$4,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,8007244.4%32 W · 40 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+6.9%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x6815…9edbbacked Lightning51c9,757$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,757.149157.1%52 W · 39 L+4.6wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+36.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x5d1d…afd2backed Lightning51c9,755$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,755.2118452.7%97 W · 87 L-0.1wins0.00per pick53cpaid-5.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9d94…017dbacked Canadiens48c9,200$4,430 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,430.2589636.9%331 W · 565 L-30.9wins-0.03per pick40cpaid-26.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9495…9a27backed Canadiens47c7,680$3,610 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,609.7710545.7%48 W · 57 L-4.6wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-13.7%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8e8c…65ddbacked Lightning50c7,392$3,731 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,661.582133.3%7 W · 14 L-3.3wins-0.16per pick49cpaid-33%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x6814…a9e7backed Lightning72c7,355$5,321 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,033.872,75447.9%1,318 W · 1,436 L+11.9wins0.00per pick47cpaid-8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf9fe…366bbacked Lightning52c7,000$3,640 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,36025552.5%134 W · 121 L-0.7wins0.00per pick53cpaid-3.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Canadiens47c6,382$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,999.5452050%260 W · 260 L+6.8wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5116…58c4backed Lightning53c5,608$2,984 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,623.875251.7%389 W · 363 L-2.1wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5e30…acbfbacked Canadiens48c5,335$2,542 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,542.0383149.5%411 W · 420 L-9.2wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-3.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4c0a…a9bebacked Lightning51c5,100$2,601 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,4991947.4%9 W · 10 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-13.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Canadiens49c4,836$2,362 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,361.631,30152.6%684 W · 617 L+23.7wins+0.02per pick51cpaid-6.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa1e4…4f8abacked Lightning53c4,749$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,249.252045%9 W · 11 L+1.0wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+1.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Lightning52c4,692$2,431 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,261.1961950.1%310 W · 309 L-7.6wins-0.01per pick51cpaid-2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7bc0…d9f4backed Canadiens49c4,487$2,181 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,181.22759.3%16 W · 11 L+0.9wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe7ca…a175backed Canadiens46c4,064$1,871 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,871.4713333.1%44 W · 89 L-11.9wins-0.09per pick42cpaid-22%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xaebf…e1cabacked Canadiens49c3,979$1,949 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,949.486538.5%25 W · 40 L-4.1wins-0.06per pick45cpaid-20.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xe401…7b88backed Lightning52c3,557$1,832 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,725.163,70450.5%1,871 W · 1,833 L+105.5wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xe2b7…500fbacked Canadiens49c3,500$1,715 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,7152552%13 W · 12 L+2.1wins+0.08per pick44cpaid+9.1%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Canadiens48c3,184$1,543 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,542.8228749.8%143 W · 144 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Lightning52c3,039$1,592 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,447.0137754.4%205 W · 172 L+5.9wins+0.02per pick53cpaid-1%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xd100…853dbacked Lightning52c3,002$1,552 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,450.639260.9%56 W · 36 L+5.8wins+0.06per pick55cpaid+7.3%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x528f…2101backed Canadiens48c2,927$1,417 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,41717353.8%93 W · 80 L+6.3wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+2.1%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x9d57…18ddbacked Canadiens47c2,785$1,304 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,303.71540%6 W · 9 L-1.2wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-21.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x2ff8…8a76backed Canadiens48c2,625$1,260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2606245.2%28 W · 34 L-1.8wins-0.03per pick48cpaid+1.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x4488…e319backed Lightning52c2,500$1,300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,20027243.4%118 W · 154 L-16.8wins-0.06per pick50cpaid-11.2%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xed2b…d4eabacked Canadiens48c2,458$1,180 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,1801947.4%9 W · 10 L-1.0wins-0.05per pick53cpaid-11%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Canadiens47c2,328$1,105 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,104.722,11242.9%907 W · 1,205 L-10.1wins0.00per pick43cpaid-9.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xa697…59d5backed Lightning51c2,300$1,181 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,118.8576950.3%387 W · 382 L+1.2wins0.00per pick50cpaid-0.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1da3…2f94backed Canadiens48c2,083$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0002653.8%14 W · 12 L+1.4wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x842a…7422backed Lightning55c2,080$1,138 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$941.8740356.3%227 W · 176 L+5.3wins+0.01per pick55cpaid+3.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x96ca…5a71backed Canadiens49c2,050$1,005 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,004.555446.4%257 W · 297 L-0.2wins0.00per pick46cpaid-3.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xdd8e…f023backed Canadiens49c2,041$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,0005844.8%26 W · 32 L-6.0wins-0.10per pick55cpaid-22.7%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x3c7e…a65fbacked Lightning51c2,000$1,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$98060337.5%226 W · 377 L-3.4wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-8.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc7ed…6c8bbacked Lightning50c2,000$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,0004835.4%17 W · 31 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-20.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf2c2…4de7backed Canadiens49c2,000$980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98038046.6%177 W · 203 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+6.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa475…bfe7backed Canadiens48c2,000$960 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$959.9420%0 W · 2 L-1.0wins-0.48per pick48cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xacf8…e791backed Lightning51c1,961$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$960.78450%2 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.04per pick46cpaid0%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2179…a75fbacked Canadiens49c1,939$950 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$950333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.3wins-0.11per pick44cpaid-16.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb8af…03c2backed Canadiens52c1,922$1,002 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,001.656750.7%34 W · 33 L+2.1wins+0.03per pick48cpaid-1.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfc99…ce7ebacked Canadiens49c1,816$890 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8901353.8%7 W · 6 L+1.6wins+0.12per pick42cpaid+26.2%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x7430…3af2backed Canadiens48c1,652$793 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$792.8915448.1%74 W · 80 L-0.2wins0.00per pick48cpaid+2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6bb3…758ebacked Lightning54c1,594$861 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$733.2417247.7%82 W · 90 L-6.4wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-8.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x37c4…3e8fbacked Lightning53c1,583$839 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$744.021838.9%7 W · 11 L-1.2wins-0.07per pick46cpaid-17.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc521…b46abacked Lightning52c1,532$797 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$735.477258.3%42 W · 30 L+6.0wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+16.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x00c1…a029backed Canadiens49c1,522$746 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$745.8510%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.49per pick49cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbf5a…e0c0backed Canadiens49c1,500$735 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7351850%9 W · 9 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Lightning52c1,473$766 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$706.6719759.4%117 W · 80 L+10.1wins+0.05per pick54cpaid+5.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Canadiens49c1,461$716 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$715.661,55551.4%800 W · 755 L+12.2wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+1.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x128a…a1b0backed Lightning52c1,442$750 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$692.312552%13 W · 12 L+1.4wins+0.06per pick46cpaid-5.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x0656…4d9bbacked Canadiens1c1,375$14 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13.75504%2 W · 48 L+1.0wins+0.02per pick2cpaid-25.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x53ec…df91backed Lightning50c1,278$639 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$638.9911141.4%46 W · 65 L+2.0wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-12.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x617b…a499backed Lightning52c1,200$624 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$57622747.6%108 W · 119 L-7.0wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x22da…2866backed Lightning52c1,161$603 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$558.2112355.3%68 W · 55 L+3.9wins+0.03per pick52cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f5e…ddaabacked Canadiens48c1,100$528 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52820643.2%89 W · 117 L-0.9wins0.00per pick44cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3920…23e7backed Lightning53c1,094$580 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$514.3439649.5%196 W · 200 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x16ea…9400backed Lightning52c1,026$530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$496.3947753.9%257 W · 220 L+18.8wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+8.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9aff…45fbbacked Canadiens48c1,021$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$490366.7%2 W · 1 L0.0wins+0.02per pick65cpaid-9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2f0b…5577backed Canadiens49c1,020$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002123.8%5 W · 16 L-4.4wins-0.21per pick45cpaid-46.6%equal weight39-0.10 edge/pick
0x9712…0c47backed Canadiens49c1,020$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.85246.2%24 W · 28 L+2.2wins+0.04per pick42cpaid+8.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x4890…09febacked Canadiens49c1,007$493 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$493.45333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.4wins-0.12per pick45cpaid-32%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1d60…453dbacked Canadiens50c1,000$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5003868.4%26 W · 12 L+2.9wins+0.08per pick61cpaid+13.5%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xd6ce…7ec8backed Canadiens48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48062346.9%292 W · 331 L-3.1wins0.00per pick47cpaid-2.2%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xe071…dec3backed Canadiens48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$480742.9%3 W · 4 L+0.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x523a…8e28backed Canadiens48c1,000$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4801330.8%4 W · 9 L-0.7wins-0.05per pick36cpaid-39.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9ccc…e7e8backed Canadiens49c1,000$485 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$48527445.6%125 W · 149 L+1.1wins0.00per pick45cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xceee…d39ebacked Canadiens49c1,000$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4904042.5%17 W · 23 L-3.7wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xeea0…5adfbacked Lightning52c1,000$520 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4801100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.48per pick52cpaid+92.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfc23…8283backed Canadiens48c999.97$480 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$479.9925258.3%147 W · 105 L+5.1wins+0.02per pick56cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0eb3…f766backed Canadiens49c999.97$490 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$489.9954047.6%257 W · 283 L-15.9wins-0.03per pick51cpaid-5.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x687d…e28bbacked Canadiens48c997.97$479 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$479.033348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.8wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-13.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7479…e171backed Canadiens48c987.27$472 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$471.865954.2%32 W · 27 L+1.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Canadiens49c984.14$482 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$482.231,02540.8%418 W · 607 L+15.6wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-3.7%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x628f…5209backed Canadiens51c982.32$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5002744.4%12 W · 15 L-0.5wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-6.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x24bc…1b77backed Canadiens49c959.18$470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47012258.2%71 W · 51 L+5.1wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+10.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x6e07…80d1backed Lightning52c942.46$493 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$449.463240.6%13 W · 19 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick44cpaid-9.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NHL and say nothing about this market.

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Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.