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NBA · resolved market

Spread: Thunder (-16.5)

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Thunderof Thunder, Lakers
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
NBAevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$677,951
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$679,972

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $677,951 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 395 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in NBA is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in NBA
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x4924…3782backed Thunder46c289,642$133,236 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$156,406.9387451.5%450 W · 424 L+15.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+3.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6ac5…4b6ebacked Lakers54c192,789$104,106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$104,106.224,68249.6%2,324 W · 2,358 L+27.2wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+0.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2a2c…9bc1backed Lakers54c143,127$77,289 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$77,288.7566248.5%321 W · 341 L-0.6wins0.00per pick49cpaid-8.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2302…d6d2backed Thunder46c25,131$11,560 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,570.881,28650.8%653 W · 633 L+11.2wins+0.01per pick50cpaid-1.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa87d…e4bfbacked Thunder48c21,219$10,115 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,103.581631.3%5 W · 11 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick29cpaid+27.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xd100…853dbacked Thunder46c16,304$7,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,804.3432351.1%165 W · 158 L+2.9wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9495…9a27backed Lakers50c13,151$6,612 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,612.3769848.6%339 W · 359 L+0.3wins0.00per pick49cpaid-0.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a51…b2b6backed Lakers54c13,000$7,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,079.9989853.1%477 W · 421 L+21.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xfc0c…cfc9backed Lakers46c12,536$5,725 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,724.622646.2%12 W · 14 L+1.3wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+19.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xcf60…a6f5backed Lakers63c12,500$7,862 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,862.3317553.7%94 W · 81 L+7.1wins+0.04per pick50cpaid+9.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x86fb…03d4backed Thunder46c10,870$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,869.5790650.2%455 W · 451 L-0.6wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5d1d…afd2backed Thunder46c10,870$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,869.5763746.6%297 W · 340 L-16.1wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-7.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x75b1…323cbacked Thunder48c10,867$5,235 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,632.061250%6 W · 6 L+0.6wins+0.05per pick45cpaid+15.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xc58d…9373backed Lakers54c10,853$5,861 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,860.7528241.1%116 W · 166 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick40cpaid+2.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x32cc…68b3backed Thunder46c10,852$4,979 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,873.741,08450%542 W · 542 L+2.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid-2.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Thunder47c10,653$5,011 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,642.262,63036.7%966 W · 1,664 L-119.1wins-0.05per pick41cpaid-25.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x031a…50b7backed Thunder46c9,875$4,542 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,332.429357%53 W · 40 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick58cpaid-3%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x5bec…b215backed Thunder44c9,027$3,972 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,054.423100%3 W · 0 L+1.6wins+0.52per pick48cpaid+108.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x32ed…f960backed Lakers55c8,694$4,767 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,766.82,94951.5%1,519 W · 1,430 L+119.4wins+0.04per pick47cpaid+3.7%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x255a…3435backed Thunder40c7,875$3,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,72561638.5%237 W · 379 L-8.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-6.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf658…655ebacked Lakers54c5,975$3,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,20014556.6%82 W · 63 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick59cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xbd52…df69backed Thunder37c5,950$2,202 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,748.756636.4%24 W · 42 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-13.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb946…2671backed Lakers54c5,393$2,894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,894.2965045.1%293 W · 357 L-11.8wins-0.02per pick47cpaid-2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x661d…4dc6backed Thunder49c5,186$2,537 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,648.0989444.4%397 W · 497 L+8.6wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-9.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcf11…8399backed Lakers54c5,000$2,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,70037539.5%148 W · 227 L-1.2wins0.00per pick40cpaid-0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Lakers56c5,000$2,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,8002,15351.3%1,105 W · 1,048 L+76.7wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+6.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xb3cf…0ebdbacked Thunder43c4,994$2,135 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,859.011,27138.3%487 W · 784 L-13.4wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8f3c…2f57backed Lakers57c4,737$2,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,7002951.7%15 W · 14 L+1.7wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+11.4%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x9d8d…95b0backed Lakers54c4,700$2,546 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,5464245.2%19 W · 23 L-2.3wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-6.2%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x6832…831fbacked Thunder50c4,513$2,279 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,233.9119246.4%89 W · 103 L+8.2wins+0.04per pick42cpaid-10.3%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x2b46…684dbacked Lakers55c4,213$2,317 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,317.331,64547.5%782 W · 863 L+40.9wins+0.02per pick45cpaid+1.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x5268…135dbacked Lakers52c3,725$1,946 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,945.5655251.3%283 W · 269 L+17.3wins+0.03per pick48cpaid+5.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Thunder39c3,686$1,424 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,262.368,98847.5%4,268 W · 4,720 L+96.4wins+0.01per pick46cpaid-5.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xdffa…34dfbacked Lakers54c3,626$1,958 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,957.95666.7%4 W · 2 L+0.3wins+0.05per pick62cpaid-3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa3d7…0b3fbacked Thunder46c3,605$1,658 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,946.861172.7%8 W · 3 L+1.9wins+0.17per pick56cpaid+19.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xcaad…60f8backed Lakers54c3,551$1,918 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,917.66837.5%3 W · 5 L-1.5wins-0.19per pick56cpaid-19.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd1ed…d7cbbacked Thunder43c3,338$1,432 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,906.441,22637.4%458 W · 768 L+7.6wins+0.01per pick37cpaid-21.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x158e…4659backed Thunder46c3,307$1,526 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,780.42560%3 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick63cpaid-1.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe433…52debacked Thunder46c3,167$1,457 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,710.06650%3 W · 3 L+0.1wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-18.2%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3747…2c49backed Lakers54c2,986$1,612 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,612.3333.3%1 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.20per pick53cpaid-51%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe169…4653backed Lakers53c2,971$1,575 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,574.8412450.8%63 W · 61 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick50cpaid+0.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xe9ac…8de4backed Thunder46c2,598$1,199 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,398.9614854.1%80 W · 68 L+3.7wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+6.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0b78…9992backed Lakers54c2,555$1,380 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,379.6720051.5%103 W · 97 L+5.3wins+0.03per pick49cpaid+6.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd106…c79cbacked Thunder46c2,521$1,148 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,372.864,78150.5%2,414 W · 2,367 L+20.7wins0.00per pick50cpaid+0.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xba67…4727backed Lakers54c2,500$1,350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,35056843.8%249 W · 319 L-25.1wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-8.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x138f…33a0backed Lakers54c2,405$1,299 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,298.76944.4%4 W · 5 L-0.2wins-0.02per pick46cpaid+1.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xd3ec…4b20backed Thunder46c2,351$1,081 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,269.56944.4%4 W · 5 L0.0wins0.00per pick45cpaid-10.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3ad7…dc0cbacked Thunder46c2,305$1,060 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,244.561275%9 W · 3 L+1.9wins+0.15per pick60cpaid+28.1%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x0979…8d9bbacked Thunder44c2,296$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,295.6620352.7%107 W · 96 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick54cpaid-4.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd788…16d3backed Lakers54c2,167$1,170 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,170.04757.1%4 W · 3 L-0.3wins-0.04per pick61cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8c8c…c7b4backed Thunder47c2,115$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,115.4835650%178 W · 178 L+3.7wins+0.01per pick49cpaid-0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x73ff…0facbacked Thunder48c2,083$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,083.336357.1%36 W · 27 L+1.1wins+0.02per pick55cpaid+3.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xadfb…c2efbacked Thunder43c2,059$886 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,172.3866352.6%349 W · 314 L+30.1wins+0.05per pick48cpaid+9.7%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xbb71…8756backed Lakers55c2,036$1,120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,119.8837.5%3 W · 5 L+0.5wins+0.06per pick31cpaid+58.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xf0ac…4ec7backed Thunder33c2,026$670 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,355.6452230.3%158 W · 364 L+20.4wins+0.04per pick26cpaid+10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x1065…6218backed Thunder46c2,003$922 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,081.892352.2%12 W · 11 L+1.0wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+18.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8180…f4dabacked Thunder47c2,000$940 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,059.9943352.2%226 W · 207 L+19.3wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+5.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf405…9df2backed Thunder60c1,843$1,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$742.543269.2%299 W · 133 L+10.7wins+0.02per pick67cpaid+2.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2528…b77dbacked Lakers56c1,698$953 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$952.821,04851.7%542 W · 506 L+7.7wins+0.01per pick51cpaid+0.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xbca0…9705backed Lakers55c1,568$867 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$867.3630551.5%157 W · 148 L+5.9wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+0.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2942…59abbacked Thunder45c1,500$675 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$824.9618044.4%80 W · 100 L+15.8wins+0.09per pick36cpaid+36.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Thunder53c1,426$763 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$663.0942842.5%182 W · 246 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-15.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x694d…c5a4backed Lakers55c1,390$771 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$771.298043.8%35 W · 45 L-7.1wins-0.09per pick53cpaid-22.4%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x23f9…3c2dbacked Thunder46c1,337$615 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$722.0718643.5%81 W · 105 L+5.4wins+0.03per pick41cpaid+6.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x228b…af4cbacked Lakers59c1,331$778 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$778.491,31747.8%629 W · 688 L+15.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x1420…9daabacked Lakers56c1,316$734 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$734.078348.2%40 W · 43 L-1.9wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-8.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb6dd…7af9backed Lakers55c1,300$715 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71527246.7%127 W · 145 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9916…bcb2backed Lakers54c1,200$648 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$64818743.3%81 W · 106 L-8.7wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-4.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x7371…4f5cbacked Lakers56c1,200$669 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$669666.7%4 W · 2 L+1.1wins+0.18per pick49cpaid+15.7%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x473d…caabbacked Lakers62c1,129$700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7004742.6%20 W · 27 L-2.1wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-2.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfb51…082dbacked Thunder46c1,118$516 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$602.0458953.7%316 W · 273 L+15.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+2.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x5d9b…a5ebbacked Lakers59c1,108$654 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$653.7213544.4%60 W · 75 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-2%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xc214…105dbacked Lakers73c1,090$800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8004768.1%32 W · 15 L+8.3wins+0.18per pick50cpaid+39.8%equal weight63+0.12 edge/pick
0xe216…7448backed Thunder46c1,087$500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$586.9659140.8%241 W · 350 L-7.7wins-0.01per pick42cpaid-0.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe911…3d4ebacked Lakers50c1,070$535 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$535.51,20051.6%619 W · 581 L+66.5wins+0.06per pick46cpaid+4.2%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x3056…4fefbacked Thunder46c1,069$492 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$577.011100%1 W · 0 L+0.5wins+0.54per pick46cpaid+117.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5e8a…a5bcbacked Lakers53c1,035$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5508242.7%35 W · 47 L+0.3wins0.00per pick42cpaid-7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x7353…4b0dbacked Lakers54c1,019$550 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5505453.7%29 W · 25 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick52cpaid+6.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2779…239abacked Lakers57c1,000$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5702835.7%10 W · 18 L-2.7wins-0.10per pick45cpaid-31.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7193…ae51backed Lakers57c1,000$570 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5701266.7%8 W · 4 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick69cpaid-7.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xd81f…6b75backed Lakers54c998.84$539 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$538.5444740.7%182 W · 265 L-27.5wins-0.06per pick47cpaid-9.6%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0x6815…9edbbacked Lakers50c998.49$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$499.6220946.9%98 W · 111 L-2.0wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-5.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2047…9240backed Lakers54c949.96$513 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$512.982369.6%16 W · 7 L+3.9wins+0.17per pick52cpaid+32.6%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x40ff…9d91backed Lakers56c892.86$500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5003933.3%13 W · 26 L-2.5wins-0.07per pick40cpaid-23.5%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x7630…bf84backed Lakers69c870.03$600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6001747.1%8 W · 9 L-1.7wins-0.10per pick57cpaid-17.7%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Lakers54c867.3$468 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$468.3164948.2%313 W · 336 L-3.2wins0.00per pick49cpaid-4.5%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0xad7f…d0d4backed Lakers68c789$533 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$533.013154.8%17 W · 14 L-1.0wins-0.03per pick58cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf16d…b7f9backed Thunder37c781.54$291 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$490.9519434.5%67 W · 127 L-10.2wins-0.05per pick40cpaid-20%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x93ac…2761backed Lakers51c757$388 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$388.3452861.9%327 W · 201 L+32.3wins+0.06per pick56cpaid+10.6%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Lakers40c742.63$296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$296.1453842%226 W · 312 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick43cpaid-18.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8098…5646backed Thunder46c731.58$338 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$394.0241753.2%222 W · 195 L+8.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8dd8…9a1cbacked Lakers57c705.56$402 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$402.0417946.4%83 W · 96 L+8.8wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+3%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xf36e…f91cbacked Thunder45c700$315 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3853644.4%16 W · 20 L+3.9wins+0.11per pick34cpaid+22.8%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x6550…8451backed Lakers37c681.2$249 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249.266437.5%24 W · 40 L-3.4wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-34.1%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x9034…f7dfbacked Lakers46c650$302 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$301.536243.9%159 W · 203 L-9.2wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-28.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0204…0e31backed Lakers54c644.78$350 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35028949.1%142 W · 147 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2735…42ebbacked Lakers48c619.58$297 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$297.43441.2%14 W · 20 L-5.3wins-0.15per pick57cpaid-35.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0x8056…b64dbacked Thunder45c617.34$275 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$342.347753.2%41 W · 36 L+1.4wins+0.02per pick51cpaid+5.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x6779…eed9backed Lakers55c600$330 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3301361.5%8 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.04per pick66cpaid-2.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x9e9b…11f7backed Lakers53c599.99$318 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$318450%2 W · 2 L-0.2wins-0.04per pick54cpaid-8.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in NBA and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 22 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.