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Fifa International · resolved market

Norway vs. Senegal: O/U 2.5

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Overof Over, Under
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$3,294,989
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$3,520,631

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $3,294,989 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,536 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x3dfb…abafbacked Over51c485,281$246,736 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$238,544.4742345.6%193 W · 230 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x987b…df43backed Under50c419,984$209,992 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$209,992.152360.9%14 W · 9 L+2.5wins+0.11per pick50cpaid+20.7%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0xc1da…fefabacked Under50c240,000$119,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$118,999.824143.9%18 W · 23 L-1.3wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-6.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xc3ac…b964backed Under49c200,000$97,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$96,999.945749.1%28 W · 29 L-1.2wins-0.02per pick51cpaid-14.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x7c1e…bab3backed Over51c159,711$80,955 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$78,755.4922348.4%108 W · 115 L+11.4wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+8.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe549…2d54backed Over49c141,933$69,547 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$72,386.0215552.3%81 W · 74 L+11.0wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+15.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xcd65…ee96backed Over50c100,000$50,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$50,00019644.9%88 W · 108 L+9.6wins+0.05per pick40cpaid+8.5%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0xd881…af24backed Under48c93,662$45,041 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$45,040.9722450.4%113 W · 111 L+4.6wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x73bc…46cebacked Under49c73,863$36,193 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36,193.0217852.2%93 W · 85 L+6.5wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+8.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x97cb…e4d0backed Under50c65,600$32,800 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$32,8001376.9%10 W · 3 L+3.4wins+0.26per pick51cpaid+54.2%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Under48c64,453$30,803 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30,802.721,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1d2e…896dbacked Under50c60,438$30,219 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30,218.9614843.2%64 W · 84 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x224a…a3d5backed Under49c55,429$27,010 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$27,009.9777152.8%407 W · 364 L+17.7wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x122b…ac59backed Under2c53,913$828 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$828.0324533.5%82 W · 163 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-20.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Over51c46,973$23,883 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,089.782,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1e77…8c33backed Under48c46,553$22,226 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22,225.583943.6%17 W · 22 L-4.0wins-0.10per pick54cpaid-20.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa18c…d792backed Under50c44,909$22,631 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22,630.924058.8%141 W · 99 L+19.8wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+15.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0346…52a5backed Over52c43,243$22,636 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,607.622,40737.7%908 W · 1,499 L-48.7wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-25.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Over50c41,050$20,684 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,366.634,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x10a6…4d8bbacked Under48c40,469$19,623 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,622.8564446.4%299 W · 345 L-6.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdb85…152fbacked Over51c40,000$20,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,60018740.6%76 W · 111 L+3.2wins+0.02per pick39cpaid-10.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe9a6…627bbacked Over51c39,296$20,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,296.311645.7%53 W · 63 L+0.3wins0.00per pick45cpaid-1.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x1d1a…0df6backed Over52c38,338$19,855 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,483.339839.8%39 W · 59 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick38cpaid-1.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed Over51c37,913$19,216 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,697.211,98532.5%645 W · 1,340 L-47.7wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x3f3a…e8fdbacked Under51c31,027$15,713 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15,713.1942541.6%177 W · 248 L+1.8wins0.00per pick41cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa80e…6aa1backed Over51c30,000$15,280 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,72027345.8%125 W · 148 L+14.2wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+17.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Over50c29,166$14,658 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,507.498,61429.2%2,518 W · 6,096 L-166.6wins-0.02per pick31cpaid-32.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x7b43…c5cbbacked Under49c28,502$13,967 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$13,967.054348.8%21 W · 22 L-0.4wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-3.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8d06…7910backed Over47c25,585$12,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$13,585.2814343.4%62 W · 81 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2805…76edbacked Under47c23,327$11,029 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,029.0320448%98 W · 106 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-1%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x1509…ca95backed Under49c22,968$11,255 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11,254.9912255.7%68 W · 54 L+8.2wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x2d7b…e2cebacked Under54c22,592$12,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,199.788440.5%34 W · 50 L-6.4wins-0.08per pick48cpaid-11.4%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x564f…d93bbacked Under14c21,969$3,183 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,183.317431.1%23 W · 51 L+4.0wins+0.05per pick26cpaid+28.8%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf070…ac55backed Over46c21,700$9,982 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$11,71814045.7%64 W · 76 L+0.6wins0.00per pick45cpaid-3.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xfa5f…6bfebacked Over52c21,612$11,238 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,373.6220844.7%93 W · 115 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid+1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x91b9…3ab4backed Over52c21,000$10,820 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,179.999645.8%44 W · 52 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+1.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc44f…d49fbacked Under49c20,038$9,793 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,793.154161%25 W · 16 L+0.2wins0.00per pick61cpaid-6.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc15b…38afbacked Over50c20,000$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,0003063.3%19 W · 11 L+1.2wins+0.04per pick59cpaid+7.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xf559…f462backed Over51c19,608$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$9,607.8410457.7%60 W · 44 L+10.2wins+0.10per pick48cpaid+13.9%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x620c…4baebacked Over52c18,000$9,360 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,6402867.9%19 W · 9 L+3.1wins+0.11per pick57cpaid+14.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x032e…2a9ebacked Over50c17,236$8,618 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,618.12,60337.8%984 W · 1,619 L-40.7wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-9.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x24f0…7ad4backed Over50c16,200$8,100 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,1005442.6%23 W · 31 L-2.3wins-0.04per pick47cpaid-20.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x514b…5fa9backed Over51c15,000$7,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,4007538.7%29 W · 46 L-3.5wins-0.05per pick43cpaid-23.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xfdfe…030ebacked Under49c14,270$6,992 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,992.32458.3%14 W · 10 L+1.7wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+15.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xa5d3…9fc7backed Under31c12,901$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,999.985541.8%23 W · 32 L+3.7wins+0.07per pick35cpaid+105.4%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x09dd…7e13backed Over59c12,672$7,442 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,229.4137944.1%167 W · 212 L+0.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-12.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x70ef…e6ddbacked Over40c12,500$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,499.9910840.7%44 W · 64 L+5.0wins+0.05per pick36cpaid+5.2%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xa800…bd7abacked Over48c12,000$5,760 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,2403842.1%16 W · 22 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-28.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x6d3c…d294backed Under49c11,918$5,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,860.041,26247.5%600 W · 662 L-15.8wins-0.01per pick49cpaid-2.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x18b8…c368backed Over47c11,877$5,595 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,282.4217733.9%60 W · 117 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-6.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4f42…8bbcbacked Over50c11,739$5,870 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,869.6445428%127 W · 327 L-2.0wins0.00per pick28cpaid-7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc229…1b74backed Over51c11,389$5,808 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,580.458858%51 W · 37 L+10.4wins+0.12per pick46cpaid+27.3%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x79ae…9a4abacked Under50c11,000$5,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,5007545.3%34 W · 41 L+2.0wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+0.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0402…4e41backed Over50c11,000$5,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,5001931.6%6 W · 13 L-2.3wins-0.12per pick43cpaid-43.6%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf021…e900backed Under4c10,667$395 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$394.636437.1%135 W · 229 L+16.5wins+0.05per pick33cpaid-4.4%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3561…f1b7backed Over51c10,371$5,273 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,098.3695037.5%356 W · 594 L-1.3wins0.00per pick38cpaid-6.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xaebf…e1cabacked Over50c10,152$5,076 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,076.1417544%77 W · 98 L+9.8wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+8.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Under49c10,000$4,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,90014232.4%46 W · 96 L-12.8wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-28%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xc289…ab37backed Over50c10,000$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,00016947.3%80 W · 89 L-3.5wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-12.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb272…5030backed Over45c10,000$4,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,499.9921937%81 W · 138 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick34cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x21df…7078backed Under50c9,828$4,914 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,913.93837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.9wins-0.11per pick49cpaid-22.5%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x6ae1…1e7ebacked Under49c9,804$4,804 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,803.922846.9%107 W · 121 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe7a2…ae70backed Over50c9,615$4,854 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,760.858932.6%29 W · 60 L-10.7wins-0.12per pick45cpaid-30.7%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xc33a…3da3backed Over51c9,584$4,888 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,696.367744.2%34 W · 43 L+0.7wins+0.01per pick43cpaid-5.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5bd3…394cbacked Over51c8,925$4,552 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,373.4913857.2%79 W · 59 L+9.0wins+0.07per pick51cpaid+8.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xd202…1ef5backed Under1c8,625$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$98.7517827.5%49 W · 129 L+0.3wins0.00per pick27cpaid-18.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3af1…d739backed Under47c8,550$4,012 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,012.3711647.4%55 W · 61 L-3.0wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe1fa…9c2cbacked Over51c8,437$4,274 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,162.565554.5%30 W · 25 L+3.3wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+14.9%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x3673…2d13backed Under49c8,405$4,118 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,118.455457.4%31 W · 23 L+2.8wins+0.05per pick52cpaid+10%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x82da…da33backed Over53c8,038$4,260 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,777.653240.6%13 W · 19 L-1.7wins-0.05per pick46cpaid-16.1%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7236…ea53backed Under50c8,000$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,00036250.8%184 W · 178 L-6.7wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-1.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x0c84…a8edbacked Under48c8,000$3,860 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,86023949.4%118 W · 121 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+2.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc4c9…617dbacked Under49c8,000$3,920 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,919.974452.3%23 W · 21 L+0.8wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+5.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Over48c7,894$3,794 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,100.383,69636.9%1,364 W · 2,332 L-44.0wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-23.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2220…1a0fbacked Under1c7,500$88 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$87.519218.8%36 W · 156 L-1.8wins-0.01per pick20cpaid-24.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdf78…ae9ebacked Over50c7,000$3,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,5003348.5%16 W · 17 L-0.1wins0.00per pick49cpaid0%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Over50c7,000$3,530 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,47022342.6%95 W · 128 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+53.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xb014…a357backed Under54c6,957$3,737 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,737.0215642.9%67 W · 89 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xb10b…0b04backed Over50c6,666$3,333 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,33332029.4%94 W · 226 L-2.6wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-11.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe301…8654backed Under33c6,046$2,022 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,02244130.8%136 W · 305 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-29.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xbe7e…6d00backed Over50c6,000$3,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,00031644.9%142 W · 174 L+10.3wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+7.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x224f…514abacked Under49c6,000$2,940 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,939.961,53649.1%754 W · 782 L+32.8wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+3.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe5a7…8105backed Over50c5,850$2,925 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,924.822835.7%10 W · 18 L-2.5wins-0.09per pick44cpaid-24.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xd0e6…9b21backed Under2c5,811$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$95.8625339.5%100 W · 153 L+8.5wins+0.03per pick36cpaid-3.7%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x3f0f…0e48backed Under2c5,389$106 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$105.8939933.1%132 W · 267 L+6.7wins+0.02per pick31cpaid-20.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xb0cc…f354backed Over57c5,306$3,042 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,263.7634845.1%157 W · 191 L+4.9wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-11.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfed1…eedbbacked Over51c5,288$2,697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,591.237448.6%36 W · 38 L-1.1wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-2.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2855…6371backed Over48c5,206$2,496 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,709.988223.2%19 W · 63 L+2.5wins+0.03per pick20cpaid-46.7%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xaf4d…77c6backed Over50c5,076$2,538 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,538.077647.4%36 W · 40 L+13.4wins+0.18per pick30cpaid+80.2%equal weight65+0.13 edge/pick
0x7879…3653backed Over50c5,000$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,50022749.3%112 W · 115 L+7.6wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb619…5068backed Over52c5,000$2,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,40024144.8%108 W · 133 L+5.2wins+0.02per pick43cpaid+1.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x13b8…d1afbacked Over50c5,000$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,50012655.6%70 W · 56 L+9.9wins+0.08per pick48cpaid+13.1%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x447f…a05ebacked Over52c5,000$2,600 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,4003562.9%22 W · 13 L+5.0wins+0.14per pick49cpaid+27.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x7940…47e7backed Under49c4,595$2,260 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,260.419947.5%47 W · 52 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+5.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xac1a…813ebacked Under49c4,490$2,196 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,196.026648.5%32 W · 34 L-2.6wins-0.04per pick52cpaid-11.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1ab8…1b4abacked Over53c4,411$2,337 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,074.139644.7%177 W · 219 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-22.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x47d9…54b7backed Under35c4,377$1,532 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,532.3825942.1%109 W · 150 L-0.5wins0.00per pick42cpaid-14.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3cf6…0cbdbacked Under52c4,310$2,258 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,257.7713543%58 W · 77 L-8.5wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-12.1%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe6ee…b3aabacked Under52c4,234$2,222 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,221.7323046.5%107 W · 123 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick49cpaid-6.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x52d9…fb1abacked Under49c4,056$1,987 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,987.341,94135.5%690 W · 1,251 L-25.4wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 36 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.