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Fifa International · resolved market

Mexico vs. England: O/U 4.5

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Overof Over, Under
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,314,191
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,841,271

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,314,191 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 672 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0x204f…5e14backed Under45c185,526$84,191 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$84,190.684,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8d06…7910backed Over72c184,587$132,866 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$51,721.6514343.4%62 W · 81 L-2.8wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-15.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x408f…b2f4backed Over72c121,721$87,258 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$34,462.784151.2%21 W · 20 L-0.9wins-0.02per pick53cpaid-5.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x44c5…8d45backed Over79c118,758$93,829 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$24,929.0814542.1%61 W · 84 L-6.0wins-0.04per pick46cpaid-18.6%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Under36c111,045$39,524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39,524.081,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xe301…8654backed Under28c84,529$24,013 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24,012.6144130.8%136 W · 305 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-29.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc3c3…eec8backed Under50c80,000$39,816 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$39,815.8127039.6%107 W · 163 L-3.5wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-3.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2e78…067ebacked Under26c69,446$18,310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,309.5936235.9%130 W · 232 L-5.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x224a…a3d5backed Under59c58,561$34,831 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$34,830.8577152.8%407 W · 364 L+17.7wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8806…2e83backed Over71c55,099$39,125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,973.9428229.4%83 W · 199 L-6.1wins-0.02per pick32cpaid-38%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Under42c51,004$21,481 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21,481.153,69636.9%1,364 W · 2,332 L-44.0wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-23.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xebfd…fd63backed Over43c49,474$21,490 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$27,983.971070%7 W · 3 L+2.8wins+0.28per pick42cpaid+49.8%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Under56c44,899$25,090 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$25,089.6242345.6%193 W · 230 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Under46c42,354$19,460 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,460.272,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xd3e7…ea94backed Over45c33,505$15,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$18,504.7813725.5%35 W · 102 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick27cpaid-32.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x95f5…779fbacked Over46c30,985$14,314 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$16,671.3837223.4%87 W · 285 L-25.7wins-0.07per pick30cpaid-58.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xe85d…ad4bbacked Over9c30,917$2,730 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$28,187.1714612.3%18 W · 128 L-3.8wins-0.03per pick15cpaid-2.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x59ab…1488backed Over49c27,761$13,516 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,245.64850%4 W · 4 L-0.2wins-0.03per pick53cpaid-18.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x59f4…c1f1backed Over8c25,000$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$23,0008135.8%29 W · 52 L+4.9wins+0.06per pick30cpaid+33.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x160b…4296backed Over7c21,473$1,529 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,943.781,04443.7%456 W · 588 L+20.7wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+14.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9cb9…32f2backed Under29c21,000$6,102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,102.0425038.8%97 W · 153 L+6.0wins+0.02per pick36cpaid+5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x122b…ac59backed Over60c19,760$11,861 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,899.1224533.5%82 W · 163 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick35cpaid-20.3%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x896e…53f2backed Under57c17,565$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,00017443.1%75 W · 99 L+5.2wins+0.03per pick40cpaid+2.8%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2c33…0563backed Over70c17,463$12,240 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,222.6274752.2%390 W · 357 L+2.4wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2a69…d2f7backed Under58c17,402$10,177 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,176.723,99224.9%994 W · 2,998 L-47.0wins-0.01per pick26cpaid-19.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8325…19ccbacked Under74c17,104$12,627 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,627.2266846.7%312 W · 356 L+45.9wins+0.07per pick40cpaid-7.3%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0x1b9c…8620backed Under28c16,392$4,647 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,646.8733740.4%136 W · 201 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-24.8%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x91fe…c1c6backed Over4c15,380$633 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$14,747.1517747.5%84 W · 93 L+11.7wins+0.07per pick41cpaid+12.7%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xe337…4ad6backed Over58c14,667$8,507 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,159.9830054%162 W · 138 L+17.1wins+0.06per pick48cpaid+32.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x325f…4511backed Over42c14,634$6,089 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$8,545.711,62732.1%523 W · 1,104 L+4.0wins0.00per pick32cpaid-19.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0cc0…5765backed Over43c13,931$6,036 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,895.166152.5%32 W · 29 L-0.6wins-0.01per pick53cpaid-7.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8a26…937ebacked Over72c13,902$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,901.5216957.4%97 W · 72 L+6.0wins+0.04per pick54cpaid+4.2%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x2ec5…fd53backed Under41c13,697$5,582 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,581.7444539.6%176 W · 269 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick41cpaid-14.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1a2f…647abacked Over61c13,572$8,246 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,325.9175335.6%268 W · 485 L+0.3wins0.00per pick36cpaid-30.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x613b…823abacked Under29c13,000$3,742 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,741.5914250%71 W · 71 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid+5.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x34a1…7622backed Under28c12,714$3,524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,524.4830626.5%81 W · 225 L-7.6wins-0.02per pick29cpaid+1.3%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x03b8…b4aebacked Under56c12,412$7,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,00023353.2%124 W · 109 L-3.2wins-0.01per pick55cpaid-4.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3f3a…e8fdbacked Under58c11,089$6,448 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,448.0342541.6%177 W · 248 L+1.8wins0.00per pick41cpaid-2.4%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6be9…5998backed Over59c9,359$5,509 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,849.6337242.5%158 W · 214 L+7.4wins+0.02per pick40cpaid-2.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xdc6c…425cbacked Over61c9,026$5,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,525.974459.1%26 W · 18 L+1.5wins+0.03per pick56cpaid+1.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7acc…c5b9backed Over58c8,597$4,960 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,637.1923857.6%137 W · 101 L+22.5wins+0.09per pick48cpaid+18.8%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x7b18…577ebacked Under23c8,055$1,843 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,842.598212.2%10 W · 72 L-2.2wins-0.03per pick15cpaid-60.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x04c0…4f3dbacked Over55c7,250$4,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,250.317632.9%25 W · 51 L+5.7wins+0.08per pick25cpaid+1%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xf989…47ccbacked Under58c6,881$4,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,0004742.6%20 W · 27 L+5.5wins+0.12per pick31cpaid+22.5%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0x753d…2ce0backed Over59c6,766$3,973 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,792.774740.4%19 W · 28 L+0.9wins+0.02per pick39cpaid+29.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xa209…ffbebacked Over59c6,694$3,927 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,766.9859453.4%317 W · 277 L+43.8wins+0.07per pick46cpaid+17.5%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Over35c6,334$2,222 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$4,111.722,30737.6%867 W · 1,440 L-16.7wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-27.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1ab8…1b4abacked Under76c5,806$4,397 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,396.8439644.7%177 W · 219 L+2.2wins+0.01per pick44cpaid-22.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xc0df…5974backed Over44c5,715$2,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,215.3621442.5%91 W · 123 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-6.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0ccb…a563backed Under57c5,523$3,150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,149.76837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-39.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd218…b5c9backed Over52c5,032$2,591 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,440.254,02738.9%1,568 W · 2,459 L-26.6wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-23.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x05e3…4b87backed Over43c5,000$2,150 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,85014445.8%66 W · 78 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x613a…2185backed Over31c4,936$1,552 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,383.6646230.1%139 W · 323 L-13.8wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-17.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x4ffd…7821backed Under37c4,885$1,812 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,811.5519946.7%93 W · 106 L-2.7wins-0.01per pick48cpaid-11.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc1be…d6a2backed Over44c4,632$2,020 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,612.195358.5%31 W · 22 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick60cpaid-6.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x555f…83a0backed Over43c4,630$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,629.631643.8%7 W · 9 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick41cpaid-15.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x52d9…fb1abacked Under79c4,558$3,604 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,603.611,94135.5%690 W · 1,251 L-25.4wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbf83…3385backed Under42c4,545$1,909 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,909.0931545.4%143 W · 172 L+3.4wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+0.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3b7c…4cbfbacked Over42c4,500$1,910 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,590.3111042.7%47 W · 63 L-2.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-11.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1cd2…7f85backed Over45c4,435$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,434.593154.8%17 W · 14 L+1.1wins+0.04per pick51cpaid+14.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xa80e…6aa1backed Over44c4,425$1,943 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,482.527345.8%125 W · 148 L+14.2wins+0.05per pick41cpaid+17.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xdb83…1e50backed Under62c4,359$2,724 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,723.642,81944.5%1,255 W · 1,564 L-36.2wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-9.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xdcdd…73a5backed Under54c4,350$2,360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,36013223.5%31 W · 101 L-9.2wins-0.07per pick30cpaid-27.6%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x8dee…412bbacked Over7c4,286$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,985.7189443.4%388 W · 506 L+18.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+8.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x6e47…34a2backed Under55c4,000$2,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,199.997342.5%31 W · 42 L+0.4wins+0.01per pick42cpaid+7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xef84…6872backed Under2c3,818$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$68.181375.1%7 W · 130 L+3.8wins+0.03per pick2cpaid+94.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x2723…8d2dbacked Over8c3,750$300 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,4503125.8%8 W · 23 L+3.3wins+0.11per pick15cpaid+58.2%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x37f4…49afbacked Over8c3,699$296 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,403.0819037.4%71 W · 119 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick37cpaid+31.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfec6…b86cbacked Under56c3,667$2,055 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,055.2837650.8%191 W · 185 L-12.2wins-0.03per pick54cpaid-13.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfb20…3b5cbacked Under57c3,495$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00027951.6%144 W · 135 L-4.3wins-0.02per pick53cpaid+0.1%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x0e97…8ffabacked Over80c3,457$2,762 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$694.9825125.1%63 W · 188 L+1.4wins+0.01per pick25cpaid-4.7%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x09dd…7e13backed Over49c3,200$1,568 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,631.4937944.1%167 W · 212 L+0.7wins0.00per pick44cpaid-12.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x37e9…eedebacked Under56c3,200$1,776 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,775.9716755.1%92 W · 75 L+10.3wins+0.06per pick49cpaid+14.3%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x9d1e…9e97backed Under74c3,174$2,343 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,343.428251.4%145 W · 137 L-1.7wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-5.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x02c6…b27bbacked Under50c3,158$1,577 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,576.7319649.5%97 W · 99 L-10.0wins-0.05per pick55cpaid-18.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x90ba…63f3backed Over9c3,150$284 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,866.560511.4%69 W · 536 L-16.5wins-0.03per pick14cpaid-38%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xc291…5d74backed Over7c3,072$214 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,857.954,45737.2%1,657 W · 2,800 L+31.0wins+0.01per pick36cpaid-8.2%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x5b45…362bbacked Over21c3,045$625 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,420.2398134.8%341 W · 640 L-7.8wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-13.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x37ab…cdafbacked Under1c3,000$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3010014%14 W · 86 L+11.0wins+0.11per pick3cpaid+445.4%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0xc827…ff0fbacked Under1c3,000$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3011412.3%14 W · 100 L+10.2wins+0.09per pick3cpaid+348.9%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xe65e…b719backed Under18c2,929$520 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$52017040%68 W · 102 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-15.8%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xe8e0…7eecbacked Over41c2,891$1,177 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,713.7673536.3%267 W · 468 L-32.3wins-0.04per pick41cpaid-26.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x2217…1660backed Over49c2,871$1,420 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,451.1363544.4%282 W · 353 L-18.5wins-0.03per pick47cpaid-13.6%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x30d5…36bfbacked Over73c2,800$2,038 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$761.622639.4%89 W · 137 L-4.5wins-0.02per pick41cpaid-11.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xb476…6eacbacked Over72c2,771$1,999 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$772.1936539.7%145 W · 220 L+8.4wins+0.02per pick37cpaid-12.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x145a…5e86backed Over61c2,741$1,663 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,078.7421641.7%90 W · 126 L+3.2wins+0.01per pick40cpaid-5.3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x9a3f…914abacked Over75c2,705$2,016 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$688.8621850%109 W · 109 L+4.4wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-10.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x8a80…11c5backed Over42c2,633$1,105 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,528.3287237.8%330 W · 542 L-39.9wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-28.8%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xd2d8…6e1fbacked Under16c2,429$400 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$40014531.7%46 W · 99 L+1.7wins+0.01per pick31cpaid+35%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xad2b…2a8ebacked Under1c2,400$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$24258%2 W · 23 L+1.4wins+0.06per pick2cpaid+200%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xab63…8f4bbacked Over43c2,347$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,347.4212634.9%44 W · 82 L-3.5wins-0.03per pick38cpaid-17.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x0886…b3a6backed Over8c2,325$186 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,13932922.5%74 W · 255 L-3.7wins-0.01per pick24cpaid-13%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Over49c2,322$1,134 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,188.361,66941.6%694 W · 975 L+15.9wins+0.01per pick41cpaid-7.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x228b…af4cbacked Under43c2,316$985 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$984.652,97328%831 W · 2,142 L-132.5wins-0.04per pick32cpaid-39%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xe002…152bbacked Over43c2,313$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,312.853946.2%18 W · 21 L+3.0wins+0.08per pick38cpaid+35.2%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0xec57…0fa7backed Under7c2,262$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$15038819.1%74 W · 314 L+8.1wins+0.02per pick17cpaid+20.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x482a…c85dbacked Under5c2,243$112 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$112.1534731.1%108 W · 239 L-3.9wins-0.01per pick32cpaid+15.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x7fcd…2816backed Under7c2,229$145 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14511227.7%31 W · 81 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick27cpaid-38.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xcc72…2888backed Under2c2,213$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.4427227.6%75 W · 197 L-0.8wins0.00per pick28cpaid-18.1%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x77bc…b91bbacked Under62c2,193$1,358 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,357.691,71135.2%603 W · 1,108 L-68.3wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-22.9%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 41 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.