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Lol · resolved market

LoL: T1 vs Team Liquid (BO5) - Mid-Season Invitational Play-In

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
T1of T1, Team Liquid
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Lolevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$1,578,287
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$1,572,054

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $1,578,287 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 171 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Lol is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Lol
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xcd30…f316backed Team Liquid5c181,393$9,070 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9,069.6522451.8%116 W · 108 L+3.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+1.5%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xdd88…dadbbacked Team Liquid6c152,243$8,568 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$8,568.141,09252.4%572 W · 520 L+6.2wins+0.01per pick52cpaid-1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Team Liquid5c91,492$4,778 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,778.031,37937.7%520 W · 859 L-43.8wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-22.7%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Team Liquid6c51,095$2,879 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,878.628839.8%35 W · 53 L-6.7wins-0.08per pick47cpaid-19.2%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xdee3…6fe5backed Team Liquid6c48,679$2,973 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,972.8428240.8%115 W · 167 L-16.1wins-0.06per pick46cpaid-20.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xc69b…2076backed Team Liquid6c47,705$2,877 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,877.0769741.5%289 W · 408 L-17.2wins-0.02per pick44cpaid-22.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x988d…9899backed Team Liquid6c31,667$1,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,90048742.3%206 W · 281 L-5.5wins-0.01per pick43cpaid+2.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x54b5…4b31backed Team Liquid5c30,000$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50011744.4%52 W · 65 L-7.1wins-0.06per pick51cpaid-29.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xf201…527ebacked Team Liquid1c29,775$310 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$309.511,29545.1%584 W · 711 L+49.7wins+0.04per pick41cpaid-10.1%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0x9279…4748backed Team Liquid1c27,464$279 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$279.186637.9%25 W · 41 L-1.3wins-0.02per pick40cpaid-25.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x18f0…3d5ebacked Team Liquid1c25,775$261 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$260.6411138.7%43 W · 68 L-2.9wins-0.03per pick41cpaid-26.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Team Liquid5c25,000$1,250 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,249.9990348.4%437 W · 466 L+14.5wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+7.3%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x664a…fc5fbacked Team Liquid4c22,213$987 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$987.2184942.5%361 W · 488 L-11.0wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-23.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x9671…3a70backed Team Liquid1c20,000$160 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1602844.6%13 W · 271 L+3.8wins+0.01per pick3cpaid-16.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x581d…2b06backed Team Liquid5c20,000$1,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$999.9948035.4%170 W · 310 L+13.0wins+0.03per pick33cpaid+5.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x10ee…7b23backed Team Liquid2c16,036$251 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$251.381625%4 W · 12 L+1.0wins+0.06per pick19cpaid+12.2%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x52b7…0aa1backed Team Liquid5c13,000$650 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6501,46828.9%424 W · 1,044 L+23.5wins+0.02per pick27cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe9b5…f95bbacked Team Liquid2c11,500$277 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$277.267549%331 W · 344 L+10.9wins+0.02per pick47cpaid+8.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x7462…3ac3backed Team Liquid4c11,387$450 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$449.841,00747.9%482 W · 525 L+11.6wins+0.01per pick47cpaid+0.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xfd14…2267backed Team Liquid2c11,338$275 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$275.352,36232%755 W · 1,607 L+42.0wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+3.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x024c…5fa1backed Team Liquid5c11,073$524 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$524.391,20335.7%430 W · 773 L+6.0wins0.00per pick35cpaid+4.7%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0xebb4…1374backed Team Liquid6c11,000$660 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66011860.2%71 W · 47 L+12.1wins+0.10per pick50cpaid+44.7%equal weight59+0.08 edge/pick
0x6e32…ab65backed Team Liquid2c10,303$206 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205.532,15253.3%1,147 W · 1,005 L+58.8wins+0.03per pick51cpaid+5.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc75a…1ab2backed Team Liquid0c10,000$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$107869.8%77 W · 709 L+22.8wins+0.03per pick7cpaid+41.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0x93bc…8ca3backed Team Liquid1c10,000$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$903,58440.1%1,437 W · 2,147 L+31.1wins+0.01per pick39cpaid-2.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x84ad…bfb7backed Team Liquid5c9,704$465 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$465.321,93048.2%930 W · 1,000 L+24.7wins+0.01per pick47cpaid-9.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x4160…3ad7backed Team Liquid2c8,446$159 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$158.976835.3%24 W · 44 L-0.7wins-0.01per pick36cpaid-11.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xf024…fbd3backed Team Liquid2c8,200$137 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$136.6716546.7%77 W · 88 L-0.3wins0.00per pick47cpaid-7.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x183f…85e3backed Team Liquid6c6,000$360 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3601,09153.8%587 W · 504 L+38.0wins+0.03per pick50cpaid+5.8%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xcdf3…1bb5backed Team Liquid6c5,555$333 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$333.3240232.8%132 W · 270 L-21.3wins-0.05per pick38cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x1341…0853backed Team Liquid2c5,315$122 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$122.251,82745.6%834 W · 993 L+26.1wins+0.01per pick44cpaid+3.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xc0bc…b904backed Team Liquid3c5,185$162 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1629035.6%32 W · 58 L+0.5wins+0.01per pick35cpaid-0.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6b64…dab3backed Team Liquid2c5,085$103 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$103.023145.2%14 W · 17 L+1.4wins+0.04per pick41cpaid+7.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xeed6…ec56backed Team Liquid1c5,000$65 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6520649.5%102 W · 104 L+1.5wins+0.01per pick49cpaid+1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x3471…f17ebacked Team Liquid6c5,000$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3001,00342.5%426 W · 577 L-24.5wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-19.8%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x134d…b07bbacked Team Liquid6c5,000$300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30010231.4%32 W · 70 L-7.0wins-0.07per pick38cpaid-0.9%equal weight44-0.06 edge/pick
0xb4d2…ce99backed Team Liquid5c4,951$257 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$257.072,18733.3%729 W · 1,458 L-71.9wins-0.03per pick37cpaid-21.7%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x9cb5…9257backed Team Liquid6c4,888$293 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$293.2910%0 W · 1 L-0.1wins-0.06per pick6cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x4afb…ed2bbacked Team Liquid5c4,692$235 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$234.6111435.1%40 W · 74 L+0.5wins0.00per pick35cpaid+6.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x66b2…0fdfbacked Team Liquid1c4,446$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5031849.7%158 W · 160 L-1.3wins0.00per pick50cpaid-4.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3a95…343bbacked Team Liquid5c4,000$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2003345.5%15 W · 18 L+8.1wins+0.25per pick21cpaid+158.1%equal weight65+0.14 edge/pick
0x91d5…8a03backed Team Liquid6c3,333$200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2002445.8%11 W · 13 L-0.8wins-0.03per pick49cpaid-25.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xd7d8…19e6backed Team Liquid1c3,000$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$302821.4%6 W · 22 L+0.4wins+0.02per pick20cpaid+7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf413…68babacked Team Liquid7c3,000$210 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2105044%22 W · 28 L-1.9wins-0.04per pick48cpaid-14.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xf42a…4b3cbacked Team Liquid2c2,932$68 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$67.9515635.9%56 W · 100 L-4.9wins-0.03per pick39cpaid-6.8%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x78fa…d5c3backed Team Liquid5c2,904$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$149.5511443%49 W · 65 L+9.1wins+0.08per pick35cpaid+27.6%equal weight57+0.07 edge/pick
0xc3a5…534cbacked Team Liquid4c2,897$110 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11020739.1%81 W · 126 L-2.1wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-6.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc739…b6c3backed Team Liquid1c2,860$33 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3310%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5b63…11a4backed Team Liquid6c2,813$164 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$163.51,58743.8%695 W · 892 L-73.9wins-0.05per pick48cpaid-16.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x3b89…fdf9backed Team Liquid3c2,726$82 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$81.7852650.8%267 W · 259 L+11.9wins+0.02per pick48cpaid-1.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xd9de…90ebbacked Team Liquid6c2,667$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1501631.3%5 W · 11 L0.0wins0.00per pick31cpaid+6.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x5a3c…38d3backed Team Liquid4c2,661$95 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$94.6856432.1%181 W · 383 L-2.3wins0.00per pick32cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x61f6…e497backed Team Liquid6c2,554$153 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$153.2443238%164 W · 268 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick39cpaid-11.4%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x0d26…f4f8backed Team Liquid1c2,536$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$20.0517032.4%55 W · 115 L+12.1wins+0.07per pick25cpaid-4.4%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x79cb…331ebacked Team Liquid1c2,520$18 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18.021140%0 W · 114 L-5.4wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight46-0.04 edge/pick
0x8ddc…9c0fbacked Team Liquid6c2,507$150 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$150.4421844%96 W · 122 L-3.3wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-9.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x222b…1a8dbacked Team Liquid4c2,304$102 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$102.3922245.9%102 W · 120 L+1.8wins+0.01per pick45cpaid-25.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xae69…6e71backed Team Liquid5c2,267$113 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$113.3511521.7%25 W · 90 L-2.2wins-0.02per pick24cpaid+3.8%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xafba…a754backed Team Liquid3c2,040$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5135323.2%82 W · 271 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick21cpaid+7.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfd96…e623backed Team Liquid6c2,000$120 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12039851.8%206 W · 192 L+0.3wins0.00per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x048f…9992backed Team Liquid1c2,000$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$205920%0 W · 592 L-7.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x472c…eaeabacked Team Liquid6c1,983$115 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$115.462528%7 W · 18 L-2.1wins-0.08per pick36cpaid-42.4%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0xf393…9b65backed Team Liquid1c1,957$22 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$22.4928836.8%106 W · 182 L-15.0wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-24.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xeea6…135fbacked Team Liquid6c1,933$116 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$11653139.9%212 W · 319 L+18.7wins+0.04per pick36cpaid+6.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0xbcbd…618dbacked Team Liquid5c1,900$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$991145.5%5 W · 6 L+1.9wins+0.17per pick28cpaid+161.5%equal weight56+0.05 edge/pick
0x8935…7daabacked Team Liquid7c1,851$138 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$137.982,92344.5%1,300 W · 1,623 L-91.9wins-0.03per pick48cpaid-16.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x7d85…5c50backed Team Liquid1c1,804$24 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$249516.8%16 W · 79 L-9.0wins-0.09per pick26cpaid-49.9%equal weight42-0.08 edge/pick
0xd0f8…6b50backed Team Liquid6c1,779$107 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$106.7612931.8%41 W · 88 L+2.1wins+0.02per pick30cpaid+16%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7e59…7b8bbacked Team Liquid4c1,752$77 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$76.8734835.3%123 W · 225 L-12.8wins-0.04per pick39cpaid-13.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4337…8882backed Team Liquid5c1,720$86 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$85.981,09834.8%382 W · 716 L-17.1wins-0.02per pick36cpaid-10.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1376…9d1bbacked Team Liquid1c1,699$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.01per pick1cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x2767…d20abacked Team Liquid5c1,688$83 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$82.6210%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.05per pick5cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x62ef…f1dcbacked Team Liquid1c1,667$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$208441.7%35 W · 49 L+2.5wins+0.03per pick39cpaid+16.6%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x8bd1…b849backed Team Liquid6c1,667$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10030%0 W · 3 L-1.2wins-0.40per pick40cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
0x27f4…7763backed Team Liquid6c1,667$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100650%3 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.07per pick57cpaid-27.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x29df…528ebacked Team Liquid6c1,667$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$100250%1 W · 1 L+0.7wins+0.35per pick15cpaid+100%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xfbc6…9092backed Team Liquid6c1,667$100 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10030521.3%65 W · 240 L-9.9wins-0.03per pick25cpaid-17.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x1b47…d814backed Team Liquid6c1,650$99 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9920036.5%73 W · 127 L-3.3wins-0.02per pick38cpaid-16.5%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0xa3b5…941abacked Team Liquid6c1,600$96 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9688950.5%449 W · 440 L+13.8wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x4ef4…e76bbacked Team Liquid4c1,522$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$60.478060%48 W · 32 L+6.4wins+0.08per pick52cpaid-1.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x0636…c529backed Team Liquid6c1,500$90 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$9011249.1%55 W · 57 L+4.1wins+0.04per pick45cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc4fe…601fbacked Team Liquid4c1,417$59 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$58.861,95230.6%597 W · 1,355 L-166.9wins-0.09per pick39cpaid-43.2%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xab65…1f0dbacked Team Liquid5c1,289$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.836643.9%29 W · 37 L+3.6wins+0.06per pick38cpaid+32.9%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick
0xf73b…223fbacked Team Liquid4c1,250$50 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5010%0 W · 1 L0.0wins-0.04per pick4cpaid-100%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x0d2d…7ff5backed Team Liquid3c1,231$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$35.391,81839.9%726 W · 1,092 L-59.5wins-0.03per pick43cpaid-20.9%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x3ee4…ed67backed Team Liquid6c1,195$72 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$71.74841.7%20 W · 28 L+1.6wins+0.03per pick38cpaid+7.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x2ff2…c175backed Team Liquid6c1,111$67 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$66.6640726.8%109 W · 298 L+6.2wins+0.02per pick25cpaid-5.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x5220…96ddbacked Team Liquid2c1,072$20 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$201323.1%3 W · 10 L-2.7wins-0.21per pick44cpaid-49.1%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x7edb…7993backed Team Liquid5c1,050$47 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$47.3246436.4%169 W · 295 L-24.1wins-0.05per pick42cpaid-39.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf5df…0f22backed Team Liquid1c1,040$10 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10.41050%5 W · 5 L+0.8wins+0.08per pick42cpaid-4.3%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xd2ae…f36bbacked Team Liquid3c1,020$30 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$30.261746.5%287 W · 330 L-5.3wins-0.01per pick47cpaid-4.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1b05…3455backed Team Liquid4c1,000$41 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$416450%32 W · 32 L+7.6wins+0.12per pick38cpaid+33.6%equal weight60+0.09 edge/pick
0x75a5…a5bfbacked Team Liquid6c1,000$60 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$601435.7%5 W · 9 L-0.8wins-0.06per pick41cpaid-10.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x34f2…3bc2backed Team Liquid4c1,000$35 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3553047.5%252 W · 278 L+14.4wins+0.03per pick45cpaid+7.3%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xc564…e89dbacked Team Liquid6c999.99$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5527745.8%127 W · 150 L-5.0wins-0.02per pick48cpaid-11.7%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1f1d…5ae6backed Team Liquid6c916.67$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$556060%36 W · 24 L-1.5wins-0.02per pick62cpaid+5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x6b23…5a43backed Team Liquid6c916.67$55 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5590%0 W · 9 L-2.0wins-0.22per pick22cpaid-100%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x46f8…68ccbacked Team Liquid6c887$53 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53.2220143.8%88 W · 113 L+2.3wins+0.01per pick43cpaid+7.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xea8d…a8efbacked Team Liquid6c849.97$51 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$50.951936.8%7 W · 12 L-1.4wins-0.08per pick44cpaid-30.6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0xb9b2…8e7dbacked Team Liquid4c837.84$36 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$36.0323152.4%121 W · 110 L+10.3wins+0.04per pick48cpaid+8.6%equal weight54+0.04 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Lol and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 19 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.