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Fifa International · resolved market

Netherlands vs. Japan: O/U 2.5

Rebuilt .

What this market resolved to

Winning outcome
Overof Over, Under
Resolved
US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in
Scored in
Fifa Internationalevery record on this page is that Category’s
Volume Polymarket published
$2,426,928
Volume TailMyPicks’s own read summed
$2,469,046

Both are shown because TailMyPicks only trusts a market it can reconcile: it reads every trade itself and compares its own total against the venue’s before scoring anything. The threshold below was applied to $2,426,928 the venue’s figure.

Every figure here describes what TailMyPicks scored — positions held to resolution in markets that cleared the thresholds below. It is not a Polymarket account balance, and open positions are not counted anywhere on this site.

Who was on this market

The 100 largest positions, of 1,204 wallets holding a qualified pick here — biggest first. This page details 100 at most, and the number beside it is the real one. Ordered by position size rather than by score, because this is a post-mortem of one market — a strong wallet’s small pick does not belong above a large committed one. Each wallet’s record in Fifa International is on its own row, so one correct call here is not mistaken for a track record.

On this marketThis wallet’s whole record in Fifa International
WalletEntryPositionResultP/L heldQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
0xc67a…f0b6backed Over47c700,000$331,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$368,999.872123.8%5 W · 16 L-5.6wins-0.27per pick51cpaid-52.3%equal weight36-0.12 edge/pick
0x03e8…1697backed Under52c508,542$264,442 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$264,441.753345.5%15 W · 18 L-1.4wins-0.04per pick50cpaid-13.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x7c1e…bab3backed Under54c249,999$134,999 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$134,999.4722348.4%108 W · 115 L+11.4wins+0.05per pick43cpaid+8.6%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
0x3dfb…abafbacked Under52c214,443$111,633 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$111,632.7742345.6%193 W · 230 L+10.8wins+0.03per pick43cpaid+1.5%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0xe2dd…4a23backed Over48c200,000$96,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104,0001637.5%6 W · 10 L-2.2wins-0.14per pick51cpaid-22%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe22a…2703backed Over48c200,000$96,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$104,0001338.5%5 W · 8 L-1.0wins-0.08per pick46cpaid-20.2%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xfe78…0319backed Over43c132,366$56,962 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$75,403.881,14439.2%448 W · 696 L-8.4wins-0.01per pick40cpaid-14.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x224a…a3d5backed Over45c115,858$52,303 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$63,555.8377152.8%407 W · 364 L+17.7wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+1.4%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x37e4…c991backed Under53c100,000$53,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$53,00016331.9%52 W · 111 L-11.2wins-0.07per pick39cpaid-13.1%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xc660…bd28backed Under53c94,247$49,951 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$49,950.889247.8%44 W · 48 L-0.1wins0.00per pick48cpaid+3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xa6d1…286abacked Under53c41,411$21,948 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21,947.8317447.1%82 W · 92 L+0.5wins0.00per pick47cpaid-4.6%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x6ae1…1e7ebacked Over48c40,566$19,661 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$20,905.8722846.9%107 W · 121 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick46cpaid+7.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x23d8…0288backed Over47c40,000$18,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$21,199.9217949.2%88 W · 91 L+6.1wins+0.03per pick46cpaid+3.6%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xb1bf…f74bbacked Over50c38,500$19,285 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,214.886334.9%22 W · 41 L-1.1wins-0.02per pick37cpaid-1.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x3d85…197fbacked Under53c37,645$19,952 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$19,951.857851.3%40 W · 38 L+1.6wins+0.02per pick49cpaid+3.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x204f…5e14backed Under58c37,297$21,604 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$21,603.744,59540.3%1,850 W · 2,745 L-91.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid-23.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x2117…5c26backed Under54c33,324$18,054 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$18,053.531,98532.5%645 W · 1,340 L-47.7wins-0.02per pick35cpaid-13.4%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x1d1a…0df6backed Under53c31,950$16,934 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$16,933.59839.8%39 W · 59 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick38cpaid-1.6%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0x2005…75eabacked Over37c31,225$11,436 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$19,789.123,69636.9%1,364 W · 2,332 L-44.0wins-0.01per pick38cpaid-23.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x10a6…4d8bbacked Over49c29,717$14,489 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,227.9964446.4%299 W · 345 L-6.2wins-0.01per pick47cpaid+0.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x84cf…2f63backed Over48c28,948$13,858 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$15,090.072,43929%707 W · 1,732 L-65.3wins-0.03per pick32cpaid-21%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xd2f3…37f9backed Under53c27,100$14,363 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$14,3635543.6%24 W · 31 L0.0wins0.00per pick44cpaid-11%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x9868…5c34backed Under53c24,491$12,980 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$12,980.14540%2 W · 3 L-0.2wins-0.05per pick45cpaid+29.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xbe7e…6d00backed Over48c20,833$10,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,833.3331644.9%142 W · 174 L+10.3wins+0.03per pick42cpaid+7.1%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
0xf68a…5b1bbacked Under52c20,585$10,704 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,704.1774447.8%356 W · 388 L+11.3wins+0.02per pick46cpaid+1.2%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xac47…d234backed Over46c19,000$8,740 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$10,26021029%61 W · 149 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick30cpaid-7.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x86e9…4cdfbacked Under49c15,263$7,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,499.9936247.2%171 W · 191 L+6.3wins+0.02per pick45cpaid-0.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x3a00…159dbacked Under51c14,706$7,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$7,5002462.5%15 W · 9 L+4.6wins+0.19per pick43cpaid+34.7%equal weight61+0.09 edge/pick
0xaa3c…3111backed Under69c14,493$10,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$10,0004341.9%18 W · 25 L-3.5wins-0.08per pick50cpaid-15.7%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0xe549…2d54backed Over47c14,024$6,591 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$7,432.8815552.3%81 W · 74 L+11.0wins+0.07per pick45cpaid+15.3%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0x1509…ca95backed Under52c12,176$6,331 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,331.4512255.7%68 W · 54 L+8.2wins+0.07per pick49cpaid+13.2%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0x076d…8d4cbacked Under53c11,676$6,188 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,188.322,27139.5%896 W · 1,375 L+10.1wins0.00per pick39cpaid+1.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x595d…9ad0backed Over46c10,870$5,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,869.5714430.6%44 W · 100 L+0.8wins+0.01per pick30cpaid-6.4%equal weight510.00 edge/pick
0x2a69…d2f7backed Over44c10,752$4,697 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$6,054.553,99224.9%994 W · 2,998 L-47.0wins-0.01per pick26cpaid-19.8%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1eaf…9bf0backed Under53c10,588$5,647 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,646.9520044.5%89 W · 111 L-10.8wins-0.05per pick50cpaid-11.1%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xf284…b9f9backed Under52c10,579$5,501 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,500.93161.3%19 W · 12 L+3.2wins+0.10per pick51cpaid+31.3%equal weight56+0.06 edge/pick
0xe964…03cbbacked Under69c10,000$6,900 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$6,9001136.4%4 W · 7 L-2.1wins-0.19per pick56cpaid-33.7%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0xa6cd…2f2cbacked Over45c10,000$4,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,5004178%32 W · 9 L+5.0wins+0.12per pick66cpaid+35%equal weight58+0.08 edge/pick
0xb272…5030backed Under52c10,000$5,200 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,199.9921937%81 W · 138 L+5.7wins+0.03per pick34cpaid+3.9%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
0x1d2e…896dbacked Under53c9,785$5,186 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,186.0514843.2%64 W · 84 L-3.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-2.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3169…ac5abacked Under52c9,615$5,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$5,0002227.3%6 W · 16 L-3.2wins-0.15per pick42cpaid-41.9%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x032e…2a9ebacked Under53c9,036$4,789 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,789.082,60337.8%984 W · 1,619 L-40.7wins-0.02per pick39cpaid-9.1%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x1ba1…1ce4backed Under53c8,992$4,766 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,765.862842.9%12 W · 16 L-2.6wins-0.09per pick52cpaid-18.4%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x93eb…c387backed Under53c8,282$4,389 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$4,389.468349.4%41 W · 42 L-0.5wins-0.01per pick50cpaid-0.9%equal weight490.00 edge/pick
0x6b1e…65c1backed Over35c8,000$2,800 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$5,199.988254.9%45 W · 37 L+7.7wins+0.09per pick45cpaid+12%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0xaa07…2125backed Under53c7,347$3,894 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,893.5514232.4%46 W · 96 L-12.8wins-0.09per pick41cpaid-28%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0xc4e9…1e89backed Over47c7,197$3,367 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,830.46434.4%22 W · 42 L-6.8wins-0.11per pick45cpaid-30.5%equal weight41-0.08 edge/pick
0x8d5d…191dbacked Under52c6,649$3,458 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,457.546842.6%29 W · 39 L-4.3wins-0.06per pick49cpaid-16.9%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0x662a…77b7backed Over47c6,459$3,057 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,402.626618%48 W · 218 L+2.1wins+0.01per pick17cpaid-13.6%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x2e78…067ebacked Under36c5,963$2,134 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,134.236235.9%130 W · 232 L-5.3wins-0.01per pick37cpaid-16.4%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
0x5af4…183cbacked Under52c5,807$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0001747.1%8 W · 9 L-0.5wins-0.03per pick50cpaid-1.3%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x4939…9adebacked Under52c5,769$3,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,0002951.7%15 W · 14 L+0.6wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+4.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x74b6…9823backed Under52c5,664$2,945 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,945.497754.5%42 W · 35 L+1.7wins+0.02per pick52cpaid+6.6%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfa5f…6bfebacked Over48c5,341$2,564 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,777.5120844.7%93 W · 115 L-1.9wins-0.01per pick46cpaid+1.7%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x8af2…dca8backed Under53c5,094$2,700 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,7003046.7%14 W · 16 L-1.2wins-0.04per pick51cpaid-2.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x3e04…564dbacked Under52c5,000$2,600 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,60011343.4%49 W · 64 L-8.1wins-0.07per pick51cpaid-13.5%equal weight43-0.06 edge/pick
0x39ec…6504backed Under75c5,000$3,750 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$3,750922.2%2 W · 7 L-3.2wins-0.35per pick58cpaid-60.3%equal weight40-0.09 edge/pick
0xbbda…b8fabacked Over48c5,000$2,400 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,6003941%16 W · 23 L+2.8wins+0.07per pick34cpaid+13.6%equal weight55+0.04 edge/pick
0x01e6…e7e0backed Under52c4,750$2,470 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,47013259.1%78 W · 54 L+3.3wins+0.02per pick57cpaid+7.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x0a77…9d74backed Under52c4,546$2,364 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,363.9821849.5%108 W · 110 L+2.5wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x643c…3fc2backed Under55c4,500$2,475 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,4754245.2%19 W · 23 L-0.7wins-0.02per pick47cpaid+20.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1e3f…e00bbacked Over46c4,260$1,942 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,318.2713748.2%66 W · 71 L+3.4wins+0.02per pick46cpaid-8.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x94a8…5204backed Over47c4,255$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,255.327122.5%16 W · 55 L-3.1wins-0.04per pick27cpaid-6%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4ea8…9469backed Over47c4,233$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,233.168353%44 W · 39 L+3.4wins+0.04per pick49cpaid+11.6%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x37ae…1002backed Over48c4,167$2,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,166.6724917.7%44 W · 205 L+4.9wins+0.02per pick16cpaid-7.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xe5f0…dc1dbacked Over19c4,045$769 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$3,276.4159230.1%178 W · 414 L-6.8wins-0.01per pick31cpaid-12.2%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x2dba…1d6cbacked Over46c4,000$1,840 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,16011561.7%71 W · 44 L+2.2wins+0.02per pick60cpaid+4.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x9fad…5a9fbacked Over48c4,000$1,920 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$2,08022342.6%95 W · 128 L+3.5wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+53.8%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
0xa18c…d792backed Under52c4,000$2,080 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,08024058.8%141 W · 99 L+19.8wins+0.08per pick50cpaid+15.1%equal weight58+0.07 edge/pick
0x09ae…b883backed Under53c3,800$2,014 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0142161.9%13 W · 8 L+3.0wins+0.14per pick48cpaid+47.5%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xd48a…6e90backed Under54c3,704$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,00012554.4%68 W · 57 L-6.8wins-0.05per pick60cpaid-6.6%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
0xec11…953fbacked Under53c3,686$1,953 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,953.414738.3%18 W · 29 L-2.3wins-0.05per pick43cpaid+2.3%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x21f3…35e3backed Under53c3,656$1,949 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,948.7836031.7%114 W · 246 L-4.5wins-0.01per pick33cpaid-6.1%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x6ef5…fc37backed Over48c3,545$1,702 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,843.410152.5%53 W · 48 L+2.1wins+0.02per pick50cpaid+2.7%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x5d76…9168backed Under52c3,500$1,820 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,8203534.3%12 W · 23 L-1.8wins-0.05per pick39cpaid+2.9%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0xe301…8654backed Under36c3,430$1,233 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,232.7844130.8%136 W · 305 L-11.6wins-0.03per pick33cpaid-29.2%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xe156…134bbacked Over46c3,356$1,550 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,805.691735.3%6 W · 11 L-1.3wins-0.08per pick43cpaid-0.4%equal weight47-0.03 edge/pick
0x8dee…412bbacked Over46c3,261$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,760.8789443.4%388 W · 506 L+18.6wins+0.02per pick41cpaid+8.5%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x11a7…2c03backed Under64c3,125$2,000 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$2,0005550.9%28 W · 27 L-0.8wins-0.01per pick52cpaid-12.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xc7c7…44b7backed Over48c3,125$1,500 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,6257943%34 W · 45 L-2.4wins-0.03per pick46cpaid-7.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0x60ba…3c6cbacked Over45c3,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,65047144.8%211 W · 260 L-4.7wins-0.01per pick46cpaid-8.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0x1418…6fefbacked Over45c3,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,65047643.3%206 W · 270 L-10.9wins-0.02per pick46cpaid-11%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0xe4fc…8af7backed Over45c3,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,649.9950243.4%218 W · 284 L-9.0wins-0.02per pick45cpaid-9.4%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x96a3…d944backed Over45c3,000$1,350 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,649.9826445.1%119 W · 145 L+17.5wins+0.07per pick38cpaid+15.7%equal weight57+0.06 edge/pick
0xe907…cff6backed Over45c2,882$1,292 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,590.248,61429.2%2,518 W · 6,096 L-166.6wins-0.02per pick31cpaid-32.3%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
0x8454…331abacked Under37c2,868$1,064 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,063.8310441.3%43 W · 61 L-3.1wins-0.03per pick44cpaid-11.5%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
0xc0df…5974backed Under53c2,830$1,500 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,50021442.5%91 W · 123 L-3.1wins-0.01per pick44cpaid-6.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
0xefa3…d08bbacked Under36c2,622$944 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$943.788349.4%41 W · 42 L+2.2wins+0.03per pick47cpaid-9.9%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0xfe70…ffc1backed Under36c2,586$942 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$942.479233.7%31 W · 61 L-8.7wins-0.09per pick43cpaid-31.3%equal weight42-0.07 edge/pick
0x2f5b…e747backed Over45c2,500$1,125 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,374.9748441.9%203 W · 281 L-16.8wins-0.03per pick45cpaid-15.4%equal weight46-0.03 edge/pick
0x4a44…d5a5backed Over46c2,433$1,119 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,313.8716549.1%81 W · 84 L+2.0wins+0.01per pick48cpaid+3.9%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xda48…5926backed Under54c2,400$1,296 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,2961643.8%7 W · 9 L-2.0wins-0.13per pick57cpaid-17.5%equal weight44-0.05 edge/pick
0x7ea5…de7bbacked Under53c2,369$1,246 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,245.961,56043.8%684 W · 876 L-4.4wins0.00per pick44cpaid-3.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0xc3df…9945backed Under55c2,364$1,300 inLost — open this pick on its own page-$1,30020547.3%97 W · 108 L-0.8wins0.00per pick48cpaid-4.7%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x160b…4296backed Over46c2,266$1,042 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,223.651,04443.7%456 W · 588 L+20.7wins+0.02per pick42cpaid+14.8%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
0x944e…8c94backed Over47c2,222$1,044 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,177.6614348.3%69 W · 74 L+1.1wins+0.01per pick48cpaid-2.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0x7493…fe92backed Over46c2,180$1,003 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,177.224626%64 W · 182 L+1.6wins+0.01per pick25cpaid+10.4%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
0xf055…02b5backed Over46c2,174$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,173.9126644%117 W · 149 L+9.8wins+0.04per pick40cpaid+4.9%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
0x1e3b…c850backed Over46c2,174$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,173.9130140.5%122 W · 179 L+1.0wins0.00per pick40cpaid+4.8%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
0x3520…1fa0backed Over46c2,174$1,000 inWon — open this pick on its own page+$1,173.9112334.1%42 W · 81 L+0.2wins0.00per pick34cpaid+13.9%equal weight500.00 edge/pick

Entry is the average price this wallet paid on the side it backed, so being right at 20c is distinguishable from being right at 95c. Position is what it was left holding in shares, with what it spent underneath. Result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody. P/L held is what that position would have been worth held to resolution — not cash the wallet withdrew, because selling early is still a correct forecast. The seven columns on the right describe the wallet’s whole record in Fifa International and say nothing about this market.

The rest of this event

Polymarket sells these questions together. 31 in all. TailMyPicks has no name for an event — the venue publishes an identifier and no title — so they are listed by their own questions.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.