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Wallet 0x5f5b…315e

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Summary

Qualified picks
160
Categories scored
7
Categories below 50
5

Best Category: Champions League, grading 51 out of 100 (+0.01 per pick).

Best Category Champions League at 51 out of 100; worst Fifa International at 45.

What is a Tail Score?

A mark out of 100, per Category. 50 means no edge at all — this wallet did about what the prices it paid implied it would. Above 50 it beat those prices; below 50 it did worse than them.

The scale does not move. 100 is a wallet beating the prices it paid by 0.45 per pick and 0 is losing to them by the same, on every wallet, on every page, in every month. So a grade you screenshot today still means what it meant when you took it, and two wallets can be put side by side.

Nobody reaches either end. Across every wallet TailMyPicks has scored, the marks run from roughly 5 to 87 — which is what a fixed ruler costs, and what buys the sentence above.

It is not a win rate. A wallet can win four Picks in five and still grade below 50, if the market was already pricing those outcomes at 90c — it paid for the wins rather than finding them. The vs expected and Avg entry columns below are what separate the two.

The mark is deliberately pulled toward 50 when there is little evidence. Three lucky Picks do not produce a high grade; several hundred consistent ones do. So a modest grade on thousands of Picks means something a high grade on twelve does not.

Because it is shrunk this way, a Category grade is a conservative reading. The headline figure for a wallet is its best Category, so it always understates how badly the wallet does in its worst one — which is why the table below is per Category and not one blended number.

Record by Category

Ordered by how much this wallet actually traded in each Category, not by score — so the Categories it plays most appear first whether they went well or badly. Open any row to see the picks its numbers were computed from — all of them.

CategoryQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
Lollast resolved Aug 22, 2026, EDT10639.6%42 W · 64 L0.0wins0.00per pick40cpaid+6.3%equal weight500.00 edge/pick
Lol — the 106 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Lol, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
LoL: Sentinels vs FlyQuest - Game 1 Winnerbacked Sentinels · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT+108.3%+$108.33
LoL: Sentinels vs FlyQuest - Game 2 Winnerbacked FlyQuest · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$97Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$96.77
LoL: Anyone's Legend vs JD Gaming (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked JD Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)45c$62Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$62.07
LoL: T1 vs Dplus KIA (BO3) - LCK Round 3-4 Legend Groupbacked T1 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$79Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$78.85
Game Handicap: T1 (-1.5) vs Dplus KIA (+1.5)backed T1 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$51Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$51.3
LoL: Skillcamp Esport vs Karmine Corp Blue (BO3) - LFL Playoffsbacked Skillcamp Esport · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)28c$104Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 13, 2026, EDT-100%-$104.49
Game Handicap: MKOI (-1.5) vs GIANTX (+1.5)backed Movistar KOI · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$382Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 8, 2026, EDT-100%-$382
LoL: SK Gaming vs Natus Vincere (BO3) - LEC Regular Seasonbacked Natus Vincere · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)64c$635Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 8, 2026, EDT+56.3%+$357.15
LoL: Team Heretics vs Fnatic (BO3) - LEC Regular Seasonbacked Team Heretics · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)16c$170Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT+525%+$892.5
LoL: Shifters vs GIANTX (BO3) - LEC Regular Seasonbacked Shifters · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)38c$382Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$382.49
LoL: Bilibili Gaming vs Top Esports - Game 1 Winnerbacked Top Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$115Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT+156.4%+$179.87
LoL: Team WE vs ThunderTalk Gaming (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked ThunderTalk Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)35c$100Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT+185.7%+$185.71
LoL: KT Rolster vs Gen.G - Game 2 Winnerbacked KT Rolster · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$96Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$96.15
LoL: BNK FEARX vs HANJIN BRION - Game 1 Winnerbacked HANJIN BRION · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)47c$75Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT+112.8%+$84.57
LoL: KT Rolster vs Gen.G - Game 1 Winnerbacked KT Rolster · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)33c$95Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$95
LoL: JD Gaming vs EDward Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked EDward Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)25c$54Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$54
LoL: Solary vs Galions (BO1) - LFL Regular Seasonbacked Solary · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$150Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+108.3%+$162.5
LoL: Karmine Corp Blue vs Skillcamp Esport (BO1) - LFL Regular Seasonbacked Skillcamp Esport · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)37c$160Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+172%+$275.14
LoL: TLN Pirates vs Joblife (BO1) - LFL Regular Seasonbacked TLN Pirates · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)58c$269Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+72.4%+$194.69
LoL: Invictus Gaming vs Ninjas in Pyjamas (BO3) - LPL Group Nirvanabacked Ninjas in Pyjamas · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$106Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+177.3%+$187.46
LoL: Dplus KIA vs T1 (BO3) - LCK Round 3-4 Legend Groupbacked Dplus KIA · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)24c$92Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$92.04
LoL: Dplus KIA vs T1 - Game 1 Winnerbacked Dplus KIA · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$139Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$139
LoL: LGD Gaming vs ThunderTalk Gaming (BO3) - LPL Group Ascendbacked ThunderTalk Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)44c$106Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+127.3%+$134.9
LoL: Kiwoom DRX vs DN SOOPers - Game 1 Winnerbacked DN SOOPers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$105Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$105.48
LoL: LGD Gaming vs ThunderTalk Gaming - Game 1 Winnerbacked ThunderTalk Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)45c$106Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$106.2
Showing 25 of 106 picks, newest first.
Valorantlast resolved Aug 23, 2026, EDT1729.4%5 W · 12 L-0.9wins-0.06per pick35cpaid-6.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
Valorant — the 17 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Valorant, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Valorant: Enterprise Esports vs Team Liquid (BO3) - VCT EMEA Playoffsbacked Enterprise Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$80Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 23, 2026, EDT-100%-$80.32
Valorant: Team Vitality vs Fire Flux Esports (BO3) - VCT EMEA Playoffsbacked Fire Flux Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)16c$40Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT+534.3%+$212.05
Valorant: Eternal Fire vs Joblife (BO3) - VCT EMEA Play-Insbacked Joblife · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$300Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 8, 2026, EDT-100%-$300
Valorant: Fnatic vs Enterprise Esports (BO3) - VCT EMEA Play-Insbacked Enterprise Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$286Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 7, 2026, EDT+177.8%+$508.46
Valorant: Natus Vincere vs Joblife (BO3) - VCT EMEA Play-Insbacked Joblife · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$197Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+150%+$295.5
Valorant: Natus Vincere vs Joblife - Map 2 Winnerbacked Joblife · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$92Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$92
Valorant: Natus Vincere vs Joblife - Map 1 Winnerbacked Joblife · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)45c$194Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 6, 2026, EDT+123.4%+$239.72
Valorant: Karmine Corp vs Team Liquid (BO3) - VCT EMEA Group Omegabacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$169Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT+100%+$169.34
Valorant: GIANTX vs Team Liquid - Map 2 Winnerbacked GIANTX · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$77Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 29, 2026, EDT-100%-$77.09
Valorant: Fnatic vs Karmine Corp (BO3) - VCT EMEA Group Omegabacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)28c$57Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$57
Valorant: Fnatic vs Karmine Corp - Map 1 Winnerbacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)52c$53Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$53.16
Valorant: XLG Gaming vs Wolves Esports (BO3) - VCT China Stage 2 Group Omegabacked Wolves Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)24c$28Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$28.3
Valorant: XLG Gaming vs Wolves Esports - Map 1 Winnerbacked Wolves Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$26Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$26
Valorant: EDward Gaming vs Nova Esports (BO3) - VCT China Stage 2 Group Alphabacked EDward Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$24Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$23.55
Valorant: Gentle Mates vs NRG (BO3) - Esports World Cup Playoffsbacked Gentle Mates · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)31c$65Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 9, 2026, EDT-100%-$65
Valorant: NRG vs Karmine Corp (BO3) - Esports World Cup Group Bbacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)17c$39Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$38.68
Valorant: NRG vs Karmine Corp - Map 1 Winnerbacked Karmine Corp · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)9c$13Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$13
All 17 picks, newest first.
Fifa International Inactivelast resolved Jul 15, 2026, EDT1414.3%2 W · 12 L-1.7wins-0.12per pick26cpaid-55.2%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
Fifa International — the 14 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Fifa International, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
England vs. Argentina: O/U 3.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)21c$50Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 15, 2026, EDT-100%-$50.41
Norway vs. England: O/U 3.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$30Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 11, 2026, EDT-100%-$29.95
France vs. Morocco: France O/U 2.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)26c$194Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 9, 2026, EDT-100%-$194.16
Will Switzerland win on 2026-07-07?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)27c$210Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$209.96
Argentina vs. Egypt: O/U 7.5 Total Cornersbacked Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$107Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 7, 2026, EDT+100.4%+$107.85
Argentina vs. Egypt: 1st Half O/U 1.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)30c$107Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 7, 2026, EDT-100%-$106.57
Will United States win on 2026-07-06?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)37c$107Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$107.17
Portugal vs. Spain: Spain O/U 2.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)25c$106Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 6, 2026, EDT-100%-$106.32
Brazil vs. Norway: O/U 3.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$193Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$192.86
Kylian Mbappé: 1+ assistsbacked Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)28c$149Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 4, 2026, EDT-100%-$149
Michael Olise: 3+ goalsbacked Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)1c$43Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 4, 2026, EDT-100%-$43
Canada vs. Morocco: O/U 11.5 Total Cornersbacked Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)23c$92Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 4, 2026, EDT+326.4%+$301.53
Spread: France (-3.5)backed France · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)15c$106Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 30, 2026, EDT-100%-$105.86
Will Japan win on 2026-06-29?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)19c$51Lost — open this pick on its own pageJun 29, 2026, EDT-100%-$50.94
All 14 picks, newest first.
CS2last resolved Aug 22, 2026, EDT1030%3 W · 7 L-0.8wins-0.08per pick38cpaid-30.2%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
CS2 — the 10 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in CS2, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Counter-Strike: Legacy vs Spirit - Map 2 Winnerbacked Legacy · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$50Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$50
Counter-Strike: FURIA vs FUT Esports (BO3) - Esports World Cup Playoffsbacked FUT Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$15Won — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT+177.8%+$26.68
Counter-Strike: 1WIN vs INOX Division (BO3) - NODWIN Clutch Series Playoffsbacked INOX Division · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$58Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$57.98
Counter-Strike: ex-RUSTEC vs NEW VISION (BO3) - CCT Europe Series #6 Group Stagebacked NEW VISION · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)33c$47Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 4, 2026, EDT-100%-$47.4
Counter-Strike: Spirit vs MOUZ (BO5) - BLAST Bounty Playoffsbacked Spirit · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$63Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 2, 2026, EDT-100%-$63.45
Counter-Strike: Astralis vs MOUZ (BO3) - BLAST Bounty Playoffsbacked Astralis · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)33c$51Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT-100%-$50.76
Counter-Strike: Nemiga vs G2 - Map 1 Winnerbacked Nemiga · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)61c$62Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT+63.9%+$39.64
Counter-Strike: Team Nemesis vs Astralis (BO3) - BLAST Bounty Qualifierbacked Astralis · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$23Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 21, 2026, EDT+156.4%+$36.65
Counter-Strike: M80 vs NIP (BO3) - BLAST Bounty Qualifierbacked M80 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$51Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$51.07
Counter-Strike: Eternal Fire vs Atreides (BO3) - European Pro League Series 8 Playoffsbacked Atreides · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)15c$19Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$19.01
All 10 picks, newest first.
Tennis Inactivelast resolved Aug 5, 2026, EDT922.2%2 W · 7 L-1.4wins-0.16per pick38cpaid-37.5%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
Tennis — the 9 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Tennis, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
National Bank Open: Alex Michelsen vs Francisco Cerundolobacked Francisco Cerundolo · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$106Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$105.76
National Bank Open: Hubert Hurkacz vs Alejandro Tabilobacked Alejandro Tabilo · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)21c$56Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 5, 2026, EDT-100%-$55.52
Hagen: Lorenzo Giustino vs Vitaliy Sachkobacked Vitaliy Sachko · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$53Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 4, 2026, EDT-100%-$53
Canadian Open: Aleksandar Kovacevic vs Nuno Borgesbacked Aleksandar Kovacevic · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)30c$32Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 3, 2026, EDT-100%-$32
Mubadala Citi DC Open: Rafael Jodar vs Alejandro Tabilobacked Alejandro Tabilo · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)30c$36Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 1, 2026, EDT-100%-$36
Estoril Open: Nuno Borges vs Roman Andres Burruchagabacked Roman Andres Burruchaga · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$33Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 22, 2026, EDT+212.5%+$70.55
Wimbledon WTA: Marta Kostyuk vs Linda Noskovabacked Linda Noskova · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$106Won — open this pick on its own pageJul 9, 2026, EDT+150%+$159.26
Wimbledon WTA: Karolina Muchova vs Coco Gauffbacked Coco Gauff · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)47c$52Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 9, 2026, EDT-100%-$51.78
Wimbledon ATP: Taylor Fritz vs Alexander Zverevbacked Taylor Fritz · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$243Lost — open this pick on its own pageJul 8, 2026, EDT-100%-$243.03
All 9 picks, newest first.
Champions League Inactivelast resolved Jul 22, 2026, EDT333.3%1 W · 2 L+0.2wins+0.08per pick25cpaid+66.7%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
Champions League — the 3 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Champions League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Ligue 1last resolved Aug 22, 2026, EDT10%0 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.39per pick39cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
Ligue 1 — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Ligue 1, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Toulouse FC win on 2026-08-22?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$50Lost — open this pick on its own pageAug 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$50
All 1 picks, newest first.

vs expected is how many more (or fewer) Picks this wallet won than the prices it paid implied it would. It is the column that tells a real edge apart from a record bought by backing favourites. Realizable edge is what that comes to per Pick for somebody copying the wallet, after the cost of getting in behind it. Avg entry is the average price it paid, so a strong record built on heavy favourites shows as one. ROI per pick counts every Pick equally rather than by size, which is how a record earned across many Picks is told apart from one carried by a few large ones. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in — an American night game settles after midnight UTC, so any other zone would name the day after the one it was played on. Inactive means nothing has resolved in that Category recently. The score is kept and the wallet stays reachable here; it only leaves the default leaderboard.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.