TailMyPicks

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Wallet 0x666f…9860

Rebuilt .

Summary

Qualified picks
191
Categories scored
13
Categories below 50
7

Best Category: Premier League, grading 55 out of 100 (+0.05 per pick).

Best Category Premier League at 55 out of 100; worst UFC at 45.

What is a Tail Score?

A mark out of 100, per Category. 50 means no edge at all — this wallet did about what the prices it paid implied it would. Above 50 it beat those prices; below 50 it did worse than them.

The scale does not move. 100 is a wallet beating the prices it paid by 0.45 per pick and 0 is losing to them by the same, on every wallet, on every page, in every month. So a grade you screenshot today still means what it meant when you took it, and two wallets can be put side by side.

Nobody reaches either end. Across every wallet TailMyPicks has scored, the marks run from roughly 5 to 87 — which is what a fixed ruler costs, and what buys the sentence above.

It is not a win rate. A wallet can win four Picks in five and still grade below 50, if the market was already pricing those outcomes at 90c — it paid for the wins rather than finding them. The vs expected and Avg entry columns below are what separate the two.

The mark is deliberately pulled toward 50 when there is little evidence. Three lucky Picks do not produce a high grade; several hundred consistent ones do. So a modest grade on thousands of Picks means something a high grade on twelve does not.

Because it is shrunk this way, a Category grade is a conservative reading. The headline figure for a wallet is its best Category, so it always understates how badly the wallet does in its worst one — which is why the table below is per Category and not one blended number.

Record by Category

Ordered by how much this wallet actually traded in each Category, not by score — so the Categories it plays most appear first whether they went well or badly. Open any row to see the picks its numbers were computed from — all of them.

CategoryQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
NHL Inactivelast resolved Mar 23, 2026, EDT9655.2%53 W · 43 L-1.3wins-0.01per pick57cpaid-3.9%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
NHL — the 96 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in NHL, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Sabres vs. Ducksbacked Sabres · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)0c$12Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 23, 2026, EDT-100%-$12.33
Predators vs. Blackhawksbacked Blackhawks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)1c$15Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$15.24
Hurricanes vs. Penguinsbacked Penguins · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$46Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$46.35
Islanders vs. Canadiensbacked Islanders · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)66c$12Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$11.55
Spread: Blue Jackets (-1.5)backed Blue Jackets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$51Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT+150%+$75.84
Golden Knights vs. Predatorsbacked Golden Knights · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$94Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT-100%-$94.42
Jets vs. Penguinsbacked Penguins · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)74c$14Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT+35.6%+$4.96
Spread: Flames (-1.5)backed Flames · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)31c$35Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT+222.6%+$78.88
Devils vs. Capitalsbacked Capitals · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)65c$38Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT+53.9%+$20.24
Stars vs. Avalanchebacked Avalanche · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)63c$11Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 19, 2026, EDT-100%-$10.86
Penguins vs. Hurricanesbacked Hurricanes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)75c$19Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 19, 2026, EDT+32.9%+$6.26
Devils vs. Rangersbacked Devils · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)56c$40Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 19, 2026, EDT+78.7%+$31.49
Bruins vs. Canadiensbacked Canadiens · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)59c$22Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 18, 2026, EDT+69%+$15.28
Spread: Hurricanes (-1.5)backed Blue Jackets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$111Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 18, 2026, EDT+49.3%+$54.45
Penguins vs. Avalanchebacked Penguins · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)77c$14Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT+30.1%+$4.23
Penguins vs. Avalanche: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$63Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$62.79
Bruins vs. Devilsbacked Bruins · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$19Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$19.12
Utah vs. Starsbacked Utah · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)46c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT+119.3%+$24.29
Flames vs. Red Wingsbacked Flames · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)56c$47Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$46.62
Panthers vs. Krakenbacked Panthers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)0c$41Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$40.81
Penguins vs. Utahbacked Utah · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$27Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT-100%-$27.02
Blue Jackets vs. Flyersbacked Blue Jackets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$57Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT+99.9%+$56.75
Sharks vs. Canadiensbacked Sharks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$145Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT+95.7%+$138.84
Kings vs. Devilsbacked Devils · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)73c$14Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT+37.9%+$5.23
Rangers vs. Wildbacked Rangers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)80c$29Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT+25.2%+$7.23
Showing 25 of 96 picks, newest first.
NBA Inactivelast resolved May 31, 2026, EDT6055%33 W · 27 L+2.1wins+0.04per pick51cpaid-0.4%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
NBA — the 60 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in NBA, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will the Oklahoma City Thunder win the 2026 NBA Finals?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)37c$25Lost — open this pick on its own pageMay 31, 2026, EDT-100%-$24.67
Spread: Nuggets (-8.5)backed Nuggets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$62Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 22, 2026, EDT+108.3%+$66.69
Pacers vs. Spurs: O/U 234.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$30Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 22, 2026, EDT-100%-$29.89
Knicks vs. Nets: O/U 213.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$22Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 21, 2026, EDT+108.3%+$23.66
Spurs vs. Kings: O/U 233.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$32Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 18, 2026, EDT-100%-$31.85
Pacers vs. Knicks: O/U 222.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$23Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 18, 2026, EDT-100%-$22.54
Spread: Trail Blazers (-10.5)backed Nets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$84Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT-100%-$83.64
Spread: Pelicans (-8.5)backed Pelicans · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$361Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 17, 2026, EDT+88.7%+$320.22
Spread: Knicks (-14.5)backed Knicks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)0c$381Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 16, 2026, EDT-100%-$380.51
Magic vs. Heatbacked Heat · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)64c$248Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 15, 2026, EDT-100%-$248
Nets vs. 76ersbacked 76ers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)77c$314Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 14, 2026, EDT+29.9%+$93.68
Spread: 76ers (-8.5)backed 76ers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)52c$396Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 14, 2026, EDT-100%-$395.85
Timberwolves vs. Warriorsbacked Timberwolves · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)65c$104Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 14, 2026, EDT+53.8%+$56.14
Mavericks vs. Grizzliesbacked Mavericks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)66c$626Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 13, 2026, EDT+51.7%+$323.63
Spread: Hawks (-15.5)backed Nets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$203Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 13, 2026, EDT+104.5%+$211.99
Timberwolves vs. Clippersbacked Timberwolves · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)47c$814Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 12, 2026, EDT-100%-$813.57
Rockets vs. Nuggetsbacked Nuggets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)70c$782Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 12, 2026, EDT+42.4%+$331.73
Hornets vs. Kings: O/U 226.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$12Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 12, 2026, EDT+85.2%+$10.35
Hornets vs. Kings: O/U 224.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$13Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 12, 2026, EDT-100%-$13.23
Bulls vs. Warriorsbacked Warriors · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)69c$180Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 11, 2026, EDT-100%-$180.09
Hornets vs. Trail Blazersbacked Hornets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)58c$258Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 11, 2026, EDT+72.4%+$186.9
Celtics vs. Spursbacked Spurs · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)60c$985Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 11, 2026, EDT+66.7%+$656.96
Spread: Suns (-1.5)backed Bucks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)52c$88Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 11, 2026, EDT-100%-$88.14
Wizards vs. Heat: O/U 237.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$142Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 11, 2026, EDT-100%-$142.49
Spread: Warriors (-6.5)backed Jazz · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$187Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 10, 2026, EDT+100%+$187
Showing 25 of 60 picks, newest first.
CS2 Inactivelast resolved Mar 1, 2026, EST837.5%3 W · 5 L-0.6wins-0.08per pick45cpaid-26.9%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
CS2 — the 8 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in CS2, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Counter-Strike: 3DMAX vs paiN (BO3) - ESL Pro League Stage 1backed paiN · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$27Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST+108.3%+$29.51
Counter-Strike: Liquid vs Passion UA (BO3) - ESL Pro League Stage 1backed Passion UA · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)44c$27Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST+129.5%+$35.3
Counter-Strike: FUT Esports vs M80 (BO3) - ESL Pro League Stage 1backed M80 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$27Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST-100%-$27.03
Counter-Strike: Astralis vs Monte (BO3) - ESL Pro League Stage 1backed Monte · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$50Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST-100%-$50.15
Counter-Strike: Heroic vs NRG (BO3) - ESL Pro League Stage 1backed NRG · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$12Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST-100%-$12.32
Counter-Strike: 9INE vs BetBoom Team (BO3) - PGL Bucharest: European Closed Qualifier Playoffsbacked BetBoom Team · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)68c$26Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 28, 2026, EST+46.9%+$12.22
Counter-Strike: LAG Gaming vs Voca (BO3) - PGL Bucharest: North American Closed Qualifier Playoffsbacked LAG Gaming · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)11c$15Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 28, 2026, EST-100%-$14.97
Counter-Strike: Heroic vs FlyQuest (BO3) - DraculaN Playoffsbacked FlyQuest · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$32Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 27, 2026, EST-100%-$32.14
All 8 picks, newest first.
Premier League Inactivelast resolved Mar 1, 2026, EST771.4%5 W · 2 L+1.6wins+0.22per pick49cpaid+39%equal weight55+0.05 edge/pick
Premier League — the 7 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Premier League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Lol Inactivelast resolved Mar 2, 2026, EST540%2 W · 3 L-0.4wins-0.09per pick49cpaid-18.8%equal weight48-0.01 edge/pick
Lol — the 5 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Lol, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Mls Inactivelast resolved Mar 2, 2026, EST366.7%2 W · 1 L+0.6wins+0.18per pick48cpaid+29%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
Mls — the 3 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Mls, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Ncaa Basketball Inactivelast resolved Mar 1, 2026, EST2100%2 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.46per pick54cpaid+87.5%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
Ncaa Basketball — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Ncaa Basketball, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Nevada Wolf Pack vs. UNLV Runnin' Rebelsbacked UNLV Runnin' Rebels · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)60c$21Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST+66.7%+$13.68
Spread: Wisconsin Badgers (-5.5)backed Oregon Ducks · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$80Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 26, 2026, EST+108.3%+$86.98
All 2 picks, newest first.
Bundesliga Inactivelast resolved Mar 1, 2026, EST2100%2 W · 0 L+0.9wins+0.44per pick56cpaid+111.2%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
Bundesliga — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Bundesliga, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Hamburger SV vs. RB Leipzig: O/U 4.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)78c$62Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST+28.2%+$17.49
Will TSG 1899 Hoffenheim win on 2026-02-28?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$11Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 28, 2026, EST+194.1%+$20.79
All 2 picks, newest first.
Europa Conference League Inactivelast resolved Feb 26, 2026, EST250%1 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-20.6%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
Europa Conference League — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Europa Conference League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Nottingham Forest FC win on 2026-02-26?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)63c$82Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 26, 2026, EST-100%-$81.61
Will Ferencvárosi TC win on 2026-02-26?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)63c$24Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 26, 2026, EST+58.7%+$14.28
All 2 picks, newest first.
La Liga Inactivelast resolved Mar 2, 2026, EST250%1 W · 1 L-0.4wins-0.22per pick72cpaid-29.6%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
La Liga — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in La Liga, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Real Madrid CF win on 2026-03-02?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)72c$34Lost — open this pick on its own pageMar 2, 2026, EST-100%-$33.58
Will FC Barcelona win on 2026-02-28?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)71c$11Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 28, 2026, EST+40.8%+$4.64
All 2 picks, newest first.
UFC Inactivelast resolved Mar 8, 2026, EST20%0 W · 2 L-1.2wins-0.58per pick58cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
UFC — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in UFC, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Valorant Inactivelast resolved Mar 1, 2026, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.60per pick40cpaid+150%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
Valorant — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Valorant, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Valorant: T1 vs Team Liquid (BO3) - VCT Masters Santiago Group Stagebacked Team Liquid · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$20Won — open this pick on its own pageMar 1, 2026, EST+150%+$29.79
All 1 picks, newest first.
Australian A League Inactivelast resolved Feb 28, 2026, EST10%0 W · 1 L-0.5wins-0.54per pick54cpaid-100%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
Australian A League — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Australian A League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Central Coast Mariners FC vs. Newcastle United Jets FC: O/U 3.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$69Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 28, 2026, EST-100%-$69.12
All 1 picks, newest first.

vs expected is how many more (or fewer) Picks this wallet won than the prices it paid implied it would. It is the column that tells a real edge apart from a record bought by backing favourites. Realizable edge is what that comes to per Pick for somebody copying the wallet, after the cost of getting in behind it. Avg entry is the average price it paid, so a strong record built on heavy favourites shows as one. ROI per pick counts every Pick equally rather than by size, which is how a record earned across many Picks is told apart from one carried by a few large ones. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in — an American night game settles after midnight UTC, so any other zone would name the day after the one it was played on. Inactive means nothing has resolved in that Category recently. The score is kept and the wallet stays reachable here; it only leaves the default leaderboard.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.