TailMyPicks

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Wallet 0x724b…e780

Rebuilt .

Summary

Qualified picks
78
Categories scored
15
Categories below 50
8

Best Category: NHL, grading 54 out of 100 (+0.03 per pick).

Best Category NHL at 54 out of 100; worst Serie A at 45.

What is a Tail Score?

A mark out of 100, per Category. 50 means no edge at all — this wallet did about what the prices it paid implied it would. Above 50 it beat those prices; below 50 it did worse than them.

The scale does not move. 100 is a wallet beating the prices it paid by 0.45 per pick and 0 is losing to them by the same, on every wallet, on every page, in every month. So a grade you screenshot today still means what it meant when you took it, and two wallets can be put side by side.

Nobody reaches either end. Across every wallet TailMyPicks has scored, the marks run from roughly 5 to 87 — which is what a fixed ruler costs, and what buys the sentence above.

It is not a win rate. A wallet can win four Picks in five and still grade below 50, if the market was already pricing those outcomes at 90c — it paid for the wins rather than finding them. The vs expected and Avg entry columns below are what separate the two.

The mark is deliberately pulled toward 50 when there is little evidence. Three lucky Picks do not produce a high grade; several hundred consistent ones do. So a modest grade on thousands of Picks means something a high grade on twelve does not.

Because it is shrunk this way, a Category grade is a conservative reading. The headline figure for a wallet is its best Category, so it always understates how badly the wallet does in its worst one — which is why the table below is per Category and not one blended number.

Record by Category

Ordered by how much this wallet actually traded in each Category, not by score — so the Categories it plays most appear first whether they went well or badly. Open any row to see the picks its numbers were computed from — all of them.

CategoryQualified picksWin ratevs expectedRealizable edgeAvg entryROI per pickTail Score
NBA Inactivelast resolved Feb 7, 2026, EST2259.1%13 W · 9 L-1.1wins-0.05per pick64cpaid-9.6%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
NBA — the 22 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in NBA, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Rockets vs. Thunderbacked Thunder · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)59c$5,483Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 7, 2026, EST-100%-$5,483.46
Pelicans vs. Bucksbacked Pelicans · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)63c$3,653Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 5, 2026, EST-100%-$3,653.37
Bulls vs. Heatbacked Heat · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$872Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 1, 2026, EST+48.5%+$422.9
Bulls vs. Heatbacked Heat · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$961Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 1, 2026, EST-100%-$961.45
Clippers vs. Nuggetsbacked Clippers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)66c$8,580Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 31, 2026, EST-100%-$8,580
Hawks vs. Celticsbacked Celtics · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$1,295Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 29, 2026, EST-100%-$1,295.11
Pistons vs. Nuggetsbacked Pistons · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)70c$1,473Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 28, 2026, EST+42.9%+$631.2
Raptors vs. Kingsbacked Kings · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)34c$1,098Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 22, 2026, EST-100%-$1,098.2
Thunder vs. Cavaliersbacked Thunder · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$9,702Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 19, 2026, EST+49.3%+$4,778.4
Thunder vs. Heatbacked Thunder · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)79c$1,185Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 18, 2026, EST-100%-$1,185
Wizards vs. Kingsbacked Kings · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)69c$9,087Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 17, 2026, EST+44.9%+$4,082.7
Nets vs. Grizzliesbacked Grizzlies · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)70c$1,470Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 11, 2026, EST+42.9%+$630
Raptors vs. Celticsbacked Celtics · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)74c$7,903Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 10, 2026, EST+35.1%+$2,776.79
Bulls vs. Pistonsbacked Pistons · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)80c$3,409Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 7, 2026, EST+25%+$852.2
Rockets vs. Netsbacked Rockets · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)80c$11,415Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 1, 2026, EST+25%+$2,853.8
Celtics vs. Trail Blazers: O/U 229.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)59c$5,147Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 28, 2025, EST-100%-$5,147.42
Knicks vs. Hawks: O/U 242.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$515Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 28, 2025, EST+88.7%+$456.6
Bucks vs. Grizzliesbacked Grizzlies · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)65c$117Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 27, 2025, EST+53.8%+$63
Hornets vs. Magic: O/U 230.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$1,192Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 26, 2025, EST+96.1%+$1,145
Wizards vs. Hornets: O/U 234.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)44c$607Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 23, 2025, EST-100%-$607.2
Mavericks vs. Pelicansbacked Pelicans · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)49c$1,989Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 23, 2025, EST+104.1%+$2,070.6
Hornets vs. Cavaliersbacked Cavaliers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)75c$5,175Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 22, 2025, EST+33.3%+$1,725
All 22 picks, newest first.
CS2 Inactivelast resolved Feb 6, 2026, EST1540%6 W · 9 L-0.3wins-0.02per pick42cpaid+3.5%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
CS2 — the 15 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in CS2, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Counter-Strike: RED Canids vs Bounty Hunters Esports (BO3) - Ace South American Masters Playoffsbacked Bounty Hunters Esports · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)22c$110Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 6, 2026, EST-100%-$109.78
Counter-Strike: G2 vs Spirit - Map 2 Winnerbacked G2 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)28c$1,992Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 3, 2026, EST+257.3%+$5,125.76
Games Total: O/U 2.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$2,367Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 2, 2026, EST-100%-$2,367.36
Counter-Strike: FURIA vs Natus Vincere (BO3) - IEM Krakow Group Abacked Natus Vincere · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)18c$588Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 2, 2026, EST-100%-$588.24
Games Total: O/U 2.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$1,491Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 2, 2026, EST-100%-$1,491.36
Counter-Strike: PARIVISION vs Astralis (BO3) - IEM Krakow Group Abacked Astralis · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)26c$1,812Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 1, 2026, EST+284.6%+$5,157.8
Games Total: O/U 2.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)48c$847Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 31, 2026, EST-100%-$847.06
Counter-Strike: G2 vs TheMongolz (BO3) - IEM Krakow Group Abacked G2 · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)58c$8,253Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 31, 2026, EST+72.4%+$5,976.18
Counter-Strike: Liquid vs G2 (BO3) - IEM Krakow Play-Inbacked Liquid · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)37c$1,514Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 29, 2026, EST-100%-$1,514.04
Counter-Strike: Sharks vs MIBR (BO5) - BetBoom RUSH B! Summit Playoffsbacked MIBR · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$1,030Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 19, 2026, EST-100%-$1,030
Counter-Strike: SkinRave vs Phoenix (BO3)backed SkinRave · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)76c$3,607Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 10, 2026, EST+31.6%+$1,139.21
Counter-Strike: MASONIC vs NAVI Junior (BO3)backed MASONIC · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)67c$425Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 29, 2025, EST-100%-$425.15
Counter-Strike: Prestige vs Truck Drivers (BO3)backed Truck Drivers · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)29c$2,388Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 29, 2025, EST-100%-$2,387.83
Counter-Strike: Preasy Mix vs MANA eSports (BO3)backed Preasy Mix · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)39c$351Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 28, 2025, EST+156.4%+$549
Counter-Strike: Team StRoGo vs Team CS2NEWS (BO3)backed Team CS2NEWS · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)40c$1,400Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 23, 2025, EST+150%+$2,100
All 15 picks, newest first.
NHL Inactivelast resolved Jan 16, 2026, EST1163.6%7 W · 4 L+1.2wins+0.11per pick53cpaid+26.4%equal weight54+0.03 edge/pick
NHL — the 11 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in NHL, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Jets vs. Wild: O/U 5.5backed Over · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)53c$8,274Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 16, 2026, EST+88.7%+$7,336.92
KHL: Salavat Yulaev Ufa vs. Dinamo Minskbacked Dinamo Minsk · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)60c$15Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 30, 2025, EST+66.7%+$10
KHL: Admiral Vladivostok vs. Sibir Novosibirskbacked Admiral Vladivostok · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)57c$57Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 28, 2025, EST-100%-$57.1
KHL: Dinamo Minsk vs. SKA St. Petersburgbacked Dinamo Minsk · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)60c$60Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 26, 2025, EST-100%-$60
Golden Knights vs. Oilers: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)56c$5,471Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 22, 2025, EST-100%-$5,470.7
Canadiens vs. Penguins: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)52c$2,221Lost — open this pick on its own pageDec 22, 2025, EST-100%-$2,221.13
Sabres vs. Devils: O/U 5.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)41c$542Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 21, 2025, EST+143.4%+$777.6
Sabres vs. Devils: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)51c$647Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 21, 2025, EST+95.4%+$617.75
Avalanche vs. Wild: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)54c$3,488Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 21, 2025, EST+85.2%+$2,971.6
Capitals vs. Red Wings: O/U 6.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)56c$5,513Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 21, 2025, EST+78.3%+$4,316.7
Capitals vs. Red Wings: O/U 5.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)43c$762Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 21, 2025, EST+132.6%+$1,010.04
All 11 picks, newest first.
Tennis Inactivelast resolved Feb 4, 2026, EST714.3%1 W · 6 L-1.4wins-0.20per pick35cpaid-81.1%equal weight45-0.04 edge/pick
Tennis — the 7 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Tennis, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Token Launches Inactivelast resolved Nov 22, 2025, EST560%3 W · 2 L+0.8wins+0.16per pick44cpaid+82.9%equal weight53+0.03 edge/pick
Token Launches — the 5 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Token Launches, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Lol Inactivelast resolved Jan 30, 2026, EST450%2 W · 2 L-0.5wins-0.13per pick63cpaid-30.5%equal weight48-0.02 edge/pick
Lol — the 4 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Lol, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Dota2 Inactivelast resolved Feb 13, 2026, EST425%1 W · 3 L-0.7wins-0.17per pick42cpaid-59.7%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
Dota2 — the 4 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Dota2, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

Premier League Inactivelast resolved Jan 7, 2026, EST20%0 W · 2 L-0.6wins-0.32per pick32cpaid-100%equal weight47-0.02 edge/pick
Premier League — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Premier League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
AFC Bournemouth vs. Tottenham Hotspur FC: O/U 2.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)45c$136Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 7, 2026, EST-100%-$136.35
AFC Bournemouth vs. Tottenham Hotspur FC: O/U 1.5backed Under · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)19c$159Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 7, 2026, EST-100%-$159.06
All 2 picks, newest first.
Serie A Inactivelast resolved Jan 18, 2026, EST20%0 W · 2 L-1.3wins-0.64per pick64cpaid-100%equal weight45-0.05 edge/pick
Serie A — the 2 picks behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Serie A, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will AS Roma win on 2026-01-18?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)50c$3,398Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 18, 2026, EST-100%-$3,397.88
Will Pisa SC vs. Atalanta BC end in a draw?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)77c$5,483Lost — open this pick on its own pageJan 16, 2026, EST-100%-$5,482.82
All 2 picks, newest first.
Olympics Inactivelast resolved Feb 14, 2026, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.64per pick36cpaid+177.8%equal weight53+0.02 edge/pick
Olympics — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Olympics, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Men's Group C - Germany vs. Latviabacked Latvia · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)36c$1,585Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 14, 2026, EST+177.8%+$2,817.28
All 1 picks, newest first.
Europa Conference League Inactivelast resolved Jan 22, 2026, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.6wins+0.58per pick42cpaid+138.1%equal weight52+0.02 edge/pick
Europa Conference League — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Europa Conference League, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will FC Porto win on 2026-01-22?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)42c$982Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 22, 2026, EST+138.1%+$1,355.46
All 1 picks, newest first.
Ncaa Basketball Inactivelast resolved Jan 17, 2026, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.4wins+0.38per pick62cpaid+61.3%equal weight52+0.01 edge/pick
Ncaa Basketball — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Ncaa Basketball, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Jacksonville Dolphins vs. North Alabama Lionsbacked Jacksonville Dolphins · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)62c$849Won — open this pick on its own pageJan 17, 2026, EST+61.3%+$520.6
All 1 picks, newest first.
Other European Leagues Inactivelast resolved Dec 27, 2025, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.34per pick66cpaid+51.5%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
Other European Leagues — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in Other European Leagues, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Celtic FC win on 2025-12-27?backed Yes · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)66c$5,375Won — open this pick on its own pageDec 27, 2025, EST+51.5%+$2,768.96
All 1 picks, newest first.
South American Leagues Inactivelast resolved Feb 12, 2026, EST1100%1 W · 0 L+0.3wins+0.32per pick68cpaid+47.1%equal weight51+0.01 edge/pick
South American Leagues — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in South American Leagues, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will SC Corinthians Paulista vs. Red Bull Bragantino end in a draw?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)68c$592Won — open this pick on its own pageFeb 12, 2026, EST+47.1%+$278.4
All 1 picks, newest first.
La Liga Inactivelast resolved Feb 21, 2026, EST10%0 W · 1 L-0.3wins-0.32per pick32cpaid-100%equal weight49-0.01 edge/pick
La Liga — the 1 pick behind this row

Every qualified pick this wallet made in La Liga, newest first — these are the picks the row above was computed from, not a sample of them. P/L held is what each pick would have been worth held to resolution, not cash this wallet withdrew. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in. A market name opens TailMyPicks’s own post-mortem of that market — who else was on it, and what they paid — and a result opens that one pick on a page of its own, which is the link to send somebody.

MarketEntrySizeResultResolvedReturnP/L held
Will Club Atlético de Madrid win on 2026-02-21?backed No · on Polymarket (opens in a new tab)32c$1,507Lost — open this pick on its own pageFeb 21, 2026, EST-100%-$1,507.2
All 1 picks, newest first.

vs expected is how many more (or fewer) Picks this wallet won than the prices it paid implied it would. It is the column that tells a real edge apart from a record bought by backing favourites. Realizable edge is what that comes to per Pick for somebody copying the wallet, after the cost of getting in behind it. Avg entry is the average price it paid, so a strong record built on heavy favourites shows as one. ROI per pick counts every Pick equally rather than by size, which is how a record earned across many Picks is told apart from one carried by a few large ones. Days are shown in US/Eastern, the zone Polymarket writes its markets in — an American night game settles after midnight UTC, so any other zone would name the day after the one it was played on. Inactive means nothing has resolved in that Category recently. The score is kept and the wallet stays reachable here; it only leaves the default leaderboard.

Not every trade counts. A Pick has to clear four thresholds to be scored.

TailMyPicks scores a wallet on what it can actually be judged on: positions held to resolution, in markets with enough volume to be real, at prices where being right was not already priced in.

  • The market traded at least $500.
  • The entry price was between 0.00 and 0.80 — a near-certainty is not a call.
  • The position was at least $10 — dust is not a position.
  • The market has resolved, so there is a right answer to grade against.

Thresholds behind these numbers: set by an operator decision, not measured.